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Who will be the new Charlton coach? - p103. Nathan Jones confirmed
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I personally don't understand the hold up, Appleton was sacked over a week ago, you have to assume there were discussions had prior to it happening. His demeanour against Northampton and the players reactions suggested it.
So surely there was candidates lined up? What is there to interview and does it really take this long? There's about 5 candidates that would be very decent, this shouldn't be a difficult decision. There's only so much you can ask a manager as it isn't like an ordinary job, their work ethics and results are very public. Pay the going rate and that's that.
If we don't end up with the likes of Jones, Rowett, Warnock etc, I'll be extremely disappointed as it's what we need to progress, it can't be another cheap option or we are fucked.
The cynic in me is starting to think we won't end up with what we want. I don't believe it will be someone shit like Lee Johnson, but I am also starting to think it won't be someone as glamorous as Rowett or Jones, fully expecting a middle ground option, whoever that is.3 -
AdTheAddicK said:It's going to be ol Bob Peeters isn't it
Big Bob set his teams up in a rigid formation and relied on sharp strikers to take their chances: that worked well when Igor was fit and scoring and we were the last team to lose in October BUT once the goals dried up the wins turned into Draws and losses.
When Rhoys Wiggins said he was told to hold his defensive position unless we had the game already won you realised that the great sight of Wiggins doing his jinking runs were put on ice. From memory it was 4-4-2 formation nine years ago.0 -
Yep, just like Lyle Taylor did.DubaiCAFC said:
That's right a player going to accept 3 grand a week less, to go and play with a manager...Addick_8 said:
This is nonsense.DubaiCAFC said:
This.. Players in league one rarely sign just for the manager.. They may say it in the interview, that the manager had a big part to play.. That is all smoke and mirrors!Scoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
Of course, managers play a part in a player's decision!
I have (luckily) mixed with many ex-Charlton players especially while we had Bowyer. I know for a fact, that 2 of our better players that year joined and signed on because of the manager and wanted to play under Bowyer. The source on that was the players themselves (while we were chatting during a 4-ball golf day)
Another example is that I know Lyle also joined us on 4K a week and had 3 offers that were all offering more than us.
Managers do have an impact. You may have a solid source about the SMT which I think they are leaking on purpose (which would be bonkers by the way) but when it comes down to players, I know what I am talking about.3 -
NapaAddick said:Since Lee Bowyer left in 2021, excluding caretakers, our managers have lasted (including cups)....Nigel Adkins..... 7 months, 26 matchesJohnnie Jackson.... 7 months, 40 matchesBen Garner...... 6 months, 29 matchesDean Holden..... 8 months, 32 matchesMichael Appleton..... 5 months, 29 matchesIncluding caretakers, since 2014 we've had 16 managers. In a decade.That's as many managers as CAFC had in total (including caretakers) from 1967 to 2014. 47 years.
Q. Who has had the most managers/head coaches/caretakers since 2014:
Charlton or Watford 🤔0 -
I think the salient point is that we DON'T have a manager at the moment. It's one thing choosing to get into a boat with Captain Bligh or Fletcher Christian but its another one deciding to get into a rudderless one !!Addick_8 said:
This is nonsense.DubaiCAFC said:
This.. Players in league one rarely sign just for the manager.. They may say it in the interview, that the manager had a big part to play.. That is all smoke and mirrors!Scoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
Of course, managers play a part in a player's decision!0 -
Maybe this explains the delay for his second interview, may as well do it today when he's due in London anyway...16 -
Which hasn't and won't work. Andy Scott deciding everything for a team whose performance alone, should be in the bottom 4 and it's only because of a points deduction that they are not is ludicrous. He should have gone with Appleton. The manager needs to have a say on players and now we are in a position where we can't do that and leave to the one who built a squad that is in a relegation battle.golfaddick said:
I think the salient point is that we DON'T have a manager at the moment. It's one thing choosing to get into a boat with Captain Bligh or Fletcher Christian but its another one deciding to get into a rudderless one !!Addick_8 said:
This is nonsense.DubaiCAFC said:
This.. Players in league one rarely sign just for the manager.. They may say it in the interview, that the manager had a big part to play.. That is all smoke and mirrors!Scoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
Of course, managers play a part in a player's decision!
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Nice nautical analogies there. We all need to move on from house buying.golfaddick said:
I think the salient point is that we DON'T have a manager at the moment. It's one thing choosing to get into a boat with Captain Bligh or Fletcher Christian but its another one deciding to get into a rudderless one !!Addick_8 said:
This is nonsense.DubaiCAFC said:
This.. Players in league one rarely sign just for the manager.. They may say it in the interview, that the manager had a big part to play.. That is all smoke and mirrors!Scoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
Of course, managers play a part in a player's decision!2 -
So to become the next manager at Charlton you might need to possess the following:-
Excellent Leadership
Tactical Skills
Excellent Game Knowledge
And a bonus of Experience in the job
Not seen any of these for a long while!
Then again if the people at the helm of this rudderless ship do not have the nous or skill set, then we are clearly going back to square 1!
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If Jones is speaking with the club this afternoon or perhaps tomorrow, would this be a first or second chat ?0
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Yes, it stinks.Uboat said:
I just find it mind-boggling that someone is sharing this level of detail with you and is apparently happy with you putting it in the public domain. Doesn’t it make you wonder?DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..As a supporter I’m happy to be made aware of it, but there’s no way someone could get away with such a lack of professionalism in most work places.
Unprofessional is the only word I can put to it.8 -
Fixed that for you Grumps 😉.grumpyaddick said:
Nice nautical analogies there. We all need to move on from to house buying boats.golfaddick said:
I think the salient point is that we DON'T have a manager at the moment. It's one thing choosing to get into a boat with Captain Bligh or Fletcher Christian but its another one deciding to get into a rudderless one !!Addick_8 said:
This is nonsense.DubaiCAFC said:
This.. Players in league one rarely sign just for the manager.. They may say it in the interview, that the manager had a big part to play.. That is all smoke and mirrors!Scoham said:
They then appointed Appleton, who just like those late signings were cheap options.NabySarr said:
So after signing a load of rubbish because we didn’t have a manager in August, we are going to do the exact same this deadline day.DubaiCAFC said:And for those saying there would be an announcement today, I wouldn't say so.. Focus is bring players in next day or so. I don't believe we will have someone before weekend.. For the Reading game, I would say we will have new manager..That delay in sacking Appleton could really cost us here. We needed a new manager in before the deadline. It just looks so amateur/incompetent to go into 2 deadline days with no manager, especially after the first went so badly
Not having a manager probably won’t help, but players also know managers get sacked all the time. Budget is likely the bigger factor, and that appears to have been increased from the signings we’ve made and managers were talking to.
Of course, managers play a part in a player's decision!0 -
I imagine the board are split over Jones as he comes across as a fiery character, somebody who will challenge them and want his own way.
Probably part of the appeal of hiring Appleton is that he's the complete opposite.6 -
Cawly doesn't say it's not happening today.Braziliance said:
He is replying to a question about it being today and he say's he's not heard that.
Not the same thing.6 -
Someone on the board is sharing details of what has gone on in those meetings. That’s not chit chat. I am part of the senior leadership team at my workplace and there is no way I would be saying, ‘We were all in favour of doing x apart from these two, who blocked it’ and I very much doubt the others would either - and I don’t work in a business where there is interest in what’s going on. I just find it so indiscreet.DubaiCAFC said:
Come on.. Chit chatter happens in every business.. Go out for a ciggy or on a work social.. It happens all the time.. Across every football club up and down the country..Uboat said:
I just find it mind-boggling that someone is sharing this level of detail with you and is apparently happy with you putting it in the public domain. Doesn’t it make you wonder?DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..As a supporter I’m happy to be made aware of it, but there’s no way someone could get away with such a lack of professionalism in most work places.
People have got a problem with it, because they don't like certain peopleKeep it coming though 😉2 -
Why not deal solely through official channels?DubaiCAFC said:
Come on.. Chit chatter happens in every business.. Go out for a ciggy or on a work social.. It happens all the time.. Across every football club up and down the country..Uboat said:
I just find it mind-boggling that someone is sharing this level of detail with you and is apparently happy with you putting it in the public domain. Doesn’t it make you wonder?DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..As a supporter I’m happy to be made aware of it, but there’s no way someone could get away with such a lack of professionalism in most work places.
People have got a problem with it, because they don't like certain people0 -
Don’t be silly, we would only have Ronnie then for rumours 😉.ElfsborgAddick said:
Why not deal solely through official channels?DubaiCAFC said:
Come on.. Chit chatter happens in every business.. Go out for a ciggy or on a work social.. It happens all the time.. Across every football club up and down the country..Uboat said:
I just find it mind-boggling that someone is sharing this level of detail with you and is apparently happy with you putting it in the public domain. Doesn’t it make you wonder?DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..As a supporter I’m happy to be made aware of it, but there’s no way someone could get away with such a lack of professionalism in most work places.
People have got a problem with it, because they don't like certain people6 -
No, some people don't like and other do.DubaiCAFC said:
Come on.. Chit chatter happens in every business.. Go out for a ciggy or on a work social.. It happens all the time.. Across every football club up and down the country..Uboat said:
I just find it mind-boggling that someone is sharing this level of detail with you and is apparently happy with you putting it in the public domain. Doesn’t it make you wonder?DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..As a supporter I’m happy to be made aware of it, but there’s no way someone could get away with such a lack of professionalism in most work places.
People have got a problem with it, because they don't like certain people
Some reason people don't like it, or at least the way it is done, is that it is unprofessional, it undermines what should be the club's proper comms strategy, the information isn't always correct and quite often it comes with a large degree of spin which positions the leaker, and the ultimate source is most definitely Methven even if he's not your direct source, as not having done anything wrong but always that is is other directors' fault or greedy agents/players/clubs to blame.
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Not to undermine your post, as I understand your logic, but do you know how daft it would be for a professional football club to treat this as a two birds one stone situation? (Aimed at them, if this was the case)ButtleJR said:
Maybe this explains the delay for his second interview, may as well do it today when he's due in London anyway...
Our clubs future is on the line here, we can't afford to waste days and ensure everything is all conveniently timed. He should be our number 1 priority and vice versa.
I get where you're coming from but it would be absolutely outrageous for the club to wait over something like that, to make sure Jones gets his moneys worth in train fares.
Unless of course it's already done and today was a good day for the media stuff.
I am assuming it won't happen today based on that, feel like Rich would have heard. Will editHenry Irving said:
Cawly doesn't say it's not happening today.Braziliance said:
He is replying to a question about it being today and he say's he's not heard that.
Not the same thing.4 - Sponsored links:
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Agree with the first part of your post but perhaps when Jones was invited for his chat (if indeed he has been) then perhaps it was he that said I’ll be in London Wednesday. I’ll see you then. It’s not always clear cut or black and white or indeed always the club being at fault. There is always an alternative reality to consider.Braziliance said:
Not to undermine your post, as I understand your logic, but do you know how daft it would be for a professional football club to treat this as a two birds one stone situation?ButtleJR said:
Maybe this explains the delay for his second interview, may as well do it today when he's due in London anyway...
Our clubs future is on the line here, we can't afford to waste days and ensure everything is all conveniently timed. He should be our number 1 priority and vice versa.
I get where you're coming from but it would be absolutely outrageous for the club to wait over something like that, to make sure Jones gets his moneys worth in train fares.
Unless of course it's already done and today was a good day for the media stuff.
I am assuming it won't happen today based on that, feel like Rich would have heard. Will editHenry Irving said:
Cawly doesn't say it's not happening today.Braziliance said:
He is replying to a question about it being today and he say's he's not heard that.
Not the same thing.11 -
Was only speculating on the above. To be honest I doubt we will have a new manager in by tomorrow. I hope we do, but think we have other priorities ahead of the deadline.Braziliance said:
Not to undermine your post, as I understand your logic, but do you know how daft it would be for a professional football club to treat this as a two birds one stone situation? (Aimed at them, if this was the case)ButtleJR said:
Maybe this explains the delay for his second interview, may as well do it today when he's due in London anyway...
Our clubs future is on the line here, we can't afford to waste days and ensure everything is all conveniently timed. He should be our number 1 priority and vice versa.
I get where you're coming from but it would be absolutely outrageous for the club to wait over something like that, to make sure Jones gets his moneys worth in train fares.
Unless of course it's already done and today was a good day for the media stuff.
I am assuming it won't happen today based on that, feel like Rich would have heard. Will editHenry Irving said:
Cawly doesn't say it's not happening today.Braziliance said:
He is replying to a question about it being today and he say's he's not heard that.
Not the same thing.1 -
We need to get a hurry-on.
I know these things take time, but unless we appoint someone soon, we won't have a chance in hell of properly planning the sacking that will take place during the Summer window.
People underestimate how crucial a Summer sacking is. Get that right and the following January's sacking is much easier.
So we need to recruit whoever is going to be sacked in the Summer as soon as possible. That way, we have more time to make sure next January's sacking can go as well as possible.50 -
it's not just the club that needs to make a decision.Braziliance said:I personally don't understand the hold up, Appleton was sacked over a week ago, you have to assume there were discussions had prior to it happening. His demeanour against Northampton and the players reactions suggested it.
So surely there was candidates lined up? What is there to interview and does it really take this long? There's about 5 candidates that would be very decent, this shouldn't be a difficult decision. There's only so much you can ask a manager as it isn't like an ordinary job, their work ethics and results are very public. Pay the going rate and that's that.
If we don't end up with the likes of Jones, Rowett, Warnock etc, I'll be extremely disappointed as it's what we need to progress, it can't be another cheap option or we are fucked.
The cynic in me is starting to think we won't end up with what we want. I don't believe it will be someone shit like Lee Johnson, but I am also starting to think it won't be someone as glamorous as Rowett or Jones, fully expecting a middle ground option, whoever that is.
Jones or whoever also has to decide that they want to come and that will depend on the wages, the level of control, his budget, the location, his family, what he thinks of the directors, our squad, our reputation for backing managers etc etc.
So if even there were names already on a list of available and realistic managers until Scott contacts them or their agents and starts to outline what our offer is he won't know if they will be interested enough to even talk, let alone join.
Should there have been talks before sacking Appleton. Perhaps there were but 7 days isn't a long time to recruit a vital member of staff and even if they have shaken hands there are still the legal and contractual elements to sort out. Anyone remember Luzon not having a work permit?
It does seem that out director and ownership structure means a lot more people want to give their input but Duchatelet and Sandgaard showed that having one decision maker didn't always mean the decisions were good.
Personally I didn't expect an announcement till this Friday at the earliest and even then I thought I was being optimistic.12 -
It doesn’t always work like that though, we have no idea how quickly we initially spoke to managers, what everyone involved has going on in their lives inside and outside of work, what other clubs they may be speaking to etc.Braziliance said:
Not to undermine your post, as I understand your logic, but do you know how daft it would be for a professional football club to treat this as a two birds one stone situation? (Aimed at them, if this was the case)ButtleJR said:
Maybe this explains the delay for his second interview, may as well do it today when he's due in London anyway...
Our clubs future is on the line here, we can't afford to waste days and ensure everything is all conveniently timed. He should be our number 1 priority and vice versa.
I get where you're coming from but it would be absolutely outrageous for the club to wait over something like that, to make sure Jones gets his moneys worth in train fares.
Unless of course it's already done and today was a good day for the media stuff.
Same with January signings, they can’t all be lined up ready to go and announced 9am on 1st January. It’s not always due to the club not doing enough or the manager not making it a priority.
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This ^^^ and the caretakers will have already been preparing the team for Saturday so all he would have is a watching brief until taking overall control after the match.ButtleJR said:
To be honest I doubt we will have a new manager in by tomorrow. I hope we do, but think we have other priorities.Braziliance said:
Not to undermine your post, as I understand your logic, but do you know how daft it would be for a professional football club to treat this as a two birds one stone situation? (Aimed at them, if this was the case)ButtleJR said:
Maybe this explains the delay for his second interview, may as well do it today when he's due in London anyway...
Our clubs future is on the line here, we can't afford to waste days and ensure everything is all conveniently timed. He should be our number 1 priority and vice versa.
I get where you're coming from but it would be absolutely outrageous for the club to wait over something like that, to make sure Jones gets his moneys worth in train fares.
Unless of course it's already done and today was a good day for the media stuff.
I am assuming it won't happen today based on that, feel like Rich would have heard. Will editHenry Irving said:
Cawly doesn't say it's not happening today.Braziliance said:
He is replying to a question about it being today and he say's he's not heard that.
Not the same thing.0 -
I understand all of that, but it is funny isn't when things use to be leaked from other owners directly or non, to people like yourself and Rick, it wasn't classed as unprofessional then.. Leaks have always happened, and will also continue to do so.. It is the way of the world.Henry Irving said:
No, some people don't like and other do.DubaiCAFC said:
Come on.. Chit chatter happens in every business.. Go out for a ciggy or on a work social.. It happens all the time.. Across every football club up and down the country..Uboat said:
I just find it mind-boggling that someone is sharing this level of detail with you and is apparently happy with you putting it in the public domain. Doesn’t it make you wonder?DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..As a supporter I’m happy to be made aware of it, but there’s no way someone could get away with such a lack of professionalism in most work places.
People have got a problem with it, because they don't like certain people
Some reason people don't like it, or at least the way it is done, is that it is unprofessional, it undermines what should be the club's proper comms strategy, the information isn't always correct and quite often it comes with a large degree of spin which positions the leaker, and the ultimate source is most definitely Methven even if he's not your direct source, as not having done anything wrong but always that is is other directors' fault or greedy agents/players/clubs to blame.
People are digging because they don't like who it could be coming from, and making a big deal about it.
For what it is worth, it is pretty quiet at the moment.15 -
People can’t keep their gobs shut.
It has always been so.
Just cos they wear a suit/tie/power dress doesn’t make a bit of difference.
Accept the tit bits at face value & move on.8 -
Perhaps relying solely on official channels instead of feeding off rumours is what fans should be doing, even when those rumours originate either directly from within the Club or from one of its associates.ElfsborgAddick said:
Why not deal solely through official channels?DubaiCAFC said:
Come on.. Chit chatter happens in every business.. Go out for a ciggy or on a work social.. It happens all the time.. Across every football club up and down the country..Uboat said:
I just find it mind-boggling that someone is sharing this level of detail with you and is apparently happy with you putting it in the public domain. Doesn’t it make you wonder?DubaiCAFC said:
Leaks have always happened, before this group it was easier to get information I would say.. Difference is, people have already made there mind up they don't like a certain person in this group, and will always look to pick holes..Athletico Charlton said:I am not sure who feeds REAMS and Dubai (assume same person giving info to them both) but find it very odd just how much leaks from this club constantly since this mob took over. It seems incredibly amateur and just causes upset most of the time.
It's a week since Apple's was sacked, we were massively unlikely to have appointed someone by now and no one would be too disappointed, but because of the leaks there is a risk people end up that way.
It's weird and it's unprofessional imo.
Not a dig at people passing info here and elsewhere but a dig at the source of such info.
Was never going to be a quick process to appoint a new manager, and was never a plan to do so, until Burton game, and they did actually sack him that night, but back tracked, well 2 out of board did..
To be honest, those two I think were bang out of order to allow Appleton to go through Tuesday game, knowing the toxic atmosphere..As a supporter I’m happy to be made aware of it, but there’s no way someone could get away with such a lack of professionalism in most work places.
People have got a problem with it, because they don't like certain people
However, as it seems to me there is substance to what we are seeing by way of unofficial updates, I appreciate them.
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If Aneke and Leaburn weren't injured i bet Holden wouldn't of been sacked. I suppose Ladapo is a replacement but he needs time as he is rusty.2
