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Thierry Small - signed a 4 year deal with Preston (p36)

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  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,222
    Good player and wish we had kept him, but not irreplaceable
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,065
    Hope he fails now tbf. He wasn't our best player but was one of the fans favourites and he will definitely regret this move. Before Jones converted him to LWB/LW, he was our back up right back to Edwards don't forget. 
    Sad to see him go but we can hopefully replace with someone with a better end product.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    edited June 6
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    I hope Thierry doesnt regret it either then, as he's seemingly chased the money a few times in his career - I dont say that bitterly either, I genuinely hope he goes on to have a great career, but his decisions have been a tad questionable.

    Agree about the resale value, for FFP to count so much now, losing a player like him on compensation is a big blow.
    Would have been a massive asset but it is what it is, still been a really positive day.

    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    Thanks for sharing. I’m not sure I think he’s worth that much per week to be honest - so I don’t necessarily blame ‘the board’ (and I’m sure NJ would have had a say in it as well. But as you mention, he may have ended up getting us a massive sell on.

    As ever time will tell.

    If Small reverts back to the mean of his pre Charlton career, just like CBT did, then it’s a massive waste of money by PNE.
    It is why I was a bit gung-ho on the wages cause I was told that was the major stumbling block. It's why I also keep saying top league 1 players will be the strategy, if we can't afford to pay Thierry that, it's given me the impression that will be the theme for this window. 

    Great business by Preston, the funny thing is, a lot of their lot don't even believe it would have happened unless we played them in the FA cup. It was that performance that made them persist, typical if that really is the case.
    I guess you need to discern between will we not pay 10,000+ a week for any player, or for Small, because we don’t rate him as worth that - as they are two very different things.

    Jones has always maintained that we will come out of each transfer window stronger, and so far he has proven to be right with that. So let’s hope that trend prevails. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,493
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    He was always moving at the end of his contract .. when he joined he said this was stepping stone for him had no intention of being long term player strange team to join cause they could get relegated next season … as I said we can do better 
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    SOTF said:
    Well that’s that then.

    Definitely a player that keeps you on the edge of your seat with plenty of potential, but prone to lapses in concentration and does need coaching through games.

    It will be interesting to see how he gets on.
    Could go on to win an England cap, or end up at Walsall. 
  • Dannoo_86
    Dannoo_86 Posts: 727
    Shame he didn’t sign good luck Thierry just not when you play us. Dan Agyei the Orient Winger could be a good replacement. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,670
    CAFCsayer said:
    Good player and wish we had kept him, but not irreplaceable

    This is my thoughts exactly. Keeping hold of Ramsey & Lloyd Jones is the most important thing for me 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,493
    Plus he a northern lad…. 
  • luke1
    luke1 Posts: 203
    edited June 6
    Anyone know what we got for him? Cawley confirmed we would be due compensation as his under a certain age 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,975
    He doesn’t learn.  He can stay somewhere he’s fitted in, and the place that salvaged his career.  Or he can chase the dollar again.  

    Fun player to watch at times but incredibly frustrating at others.  And I won’t miss his comedic heading ability which was worse than a 50p head 😃

    hope he fails spectacularly
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  • Northern_Monkey
    Northern_Monkey Posts: 771
    Part of our promotion, lots of strength, skill, lots of potential, but I’d hope we could fill that slot with higher quality now we’re in the championship. It always felt to me like he could never quite create chances into goals, but no doubt he’ll unlock that when he faces us next year.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,609
    edited June 6
    Very sorry to see him go. Raw talent and exciting to watch. I’m not being mealy mouthed here but he’s made a bad decision. Preston arnt going anywhere any time soon and Jones is about the only manager that has got Thierry playing to his potential. I think he’d progress under Jones and might again fail to impress given a different role and under more scrutiny. Enjoy the money Thierry.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    Thought he’d go regardless of promotion, it’s a shame but as others have said he is replaceable. 

    Unplayable on his day but needs to be more consistent. 
    Unplayable on his day in League One. 
  • Charlton and on
    Charlton and on Posts: 959
    No end product but clearly a nightmare for defenders, was a real threat. Ridiculous to have got to the point where a 20 year old goes on a free. Definitely would’ve rather he stayed, we’d have to spend a bit of money to get a good enough replacement.
    It's not like how young players left under Roland. Until six months ago he hadn't done much for Charlton. When he/we started to play well, his contract was reaching it's end.
  • 82Stu
    82Stu Posts: 33
    Got a feeling seeing that Reebok hoodie convinced him to go?
  • Woodwork
    Woodwork Posts: 423
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.


    If Small reverts back to the mean of his pre Charlton career, just like CBT did, then it’s a massive waste of money by PNE.
    Charlton is his career. He never started for Everton or Southampton. And had a few appearances on loan at Port Vale & St Mirren as a teenager. Sounds like they are gambling a first teamer’s wages on him coming good over next four years. If he does, could make a few million on him. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,722
    Dannoo_86 said:
    Shame he didn’t sign good luck Thierry just not when you play us. Dan Agyei the Orient Winger could be a good replacement. 
    Agyei who couldn't cross at all at Wembley? We can do better than that
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,325
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    I hope Thierry doesnt regret it either then, as he's seemingly chased the money a few times in his career - I dont say that bitterly either, I genuinely hope he goes on to have a great career, but his decisions have been a tad questionable.

    Agree about the resale value, for FFP to count so much now, losing a player like him on compensation is a big blow.
    Would have been a massive asset but it is what it is, still been a really positive day.

    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    Thanks for sharing. I’m not sure I think he’s worth that much per week to be honest - so I don’t necessarily blame ‘the board’ (and I’m sure NJ would have had a say in it as well. But as you mention, he may have ended up getting us a massive sell on.

    As ever time will tell.

    If Small reverts back to the mean of his pre Charlton career, just like CBT did, then it’s a massive waste of money by PNE.
    It is why I was a bit gung-ho on the wages cause I was told that was the major stumbling block. It's why I also keep saying top league 1 players will be the strategy, if we can't afford to pay Thierry that, it's given me the impression that will be the theme for this window. 

    Great business by Preston, the funny thing is, a lot of their lot don't even believe it would have happened unless we played them in the FA cup. It was that performance that made them persist, typical if that really is the case.
    I guess you need to discern between will we not pay 10,000+ a week for any player, or for Small, or because we don’t rate him as worth that - as they are two very different things.

    Jones has always maintained that we will come out of each transfer window stronger, and so far he has proven to be right with that. So let’s hope that trend prevails. 
    That's what I mean, I don't know about that and I don't think many will, I just got told about Thierry specifically with not matching Prestons offer and it being roughly 3-4k a week more, whether that was a Jones decision, only the insiders will know. 

    He got it right with replacing May, let's hope he can do it again. Plenty of good players out there to replace him.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,945
    edited June 6
    Plus he a northern lad…. 
    That famous northern town of…Solihull 
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,198
    jakecafc said:
    Hope he fails now tbf. He wasn't our best player but was one of the fans favourites and he will definitely regret this move. Before Jones converted him to LWB/LW, he was our back up right back to Edwards don't forget. 
    Sad to see him go but we can hopefully replace with someone with a better end product.
    Do you watch our games upside down? 🤣
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  • 3G
    3G Posts: 729
    PRESTON??? 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,286
    fenaddick said:
    Plus he a northern lad…. 
    That famous northern town of…Birmingham 
    Its North of Watford Gap... He's F**KING Northern... ALRITE!!
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,985
    Croydon said:
    Dannoo_86 said:
    Shame he didn’t sign good luck Thierry just not when you play us. Dan Agyei the Orient Winger could be a good replacement. 
    Agyei who couldn't cross at all at Wembley? We can do better than that
    I think he could be a worthwhile addition if Jones can work on him 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,569
    Wasn’t he offered quadruple his wages that he’s was on?
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,065
    CAFCDAZ said:
    jakecafc said:
    Hope he fails now tbf. He wasn't our best player but was one of the fans favourites and he will definitely regret this move. Before Jones converted him to LWB/LW, he was our back up right back to Edwards don't forget. 
    Sad to see him go but we can hopefully replace with someone with a better end product.
    Do you watch our games upside down? 🤣
    I mean rwb lol
  • jakecafc
    jakecafc Posts: 2,065
    jakecafc said:
    CAFCDAZ said:
    jakecafc said:
    Hope he fails now tbf. He wasn't our best player but was one of the fans favourites and he will definitely regret this move. Before Jones converted him to LWB/LW, he was our back up right back to Edwards don't forget. 
    Sad to see him go but we can hopefully replace with someone with a better end product.
    Do you watch our games upside down? 🤣
    I mean rwb lol
    It's been a long day 😄
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,262
    edited June 7
    No hard feelings, we got him for nowt and will likely pick up a small development fee.  Decent player with massive potential but could go either way.  For every bit of real quality there are 2-3 times he randomly runs the ball off the pitch.

    Just seems a daft move for him tbh, will no doubt make him richer but it's barely a step up and I think there is a good chance we will finish above them next season anyway. 

    I feel he should have stayed with us where the fans were 100% behind him and had a settled year to really establish himself.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,008
    sam3110 said:
    I firmly believe he'll be back in League 1 within the next 2 seasons
    So will we B)
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,976
    Sat on that for a week, never ITK but was told by two different people that Preston were offering Thierry between 10-11k a week to sign him and that he already agreed to it in the last week.

    I didn't want to say incase they were wrong, but once I read all the Preston fans say about their offer, and how likely he was to accept it, all the dots joined up, and is why I was saying we aren't paying the going rate, specifically for him.

    Apparently we couldn't get near what they were offering, or at least we weren't willing to match it. Had we offered Thierry what they did, he would have stayed. It was just about money from what I have heard. 

    I'm gutted personally as he has so much resale value, he fit in with the team, and he was a good player for us. 

    Good luck to him, shame.
    If this is true (and i don't doubt it is) then i read this as NJ deciding he's not worth it.

    I'm sure NJ and the club know that we're going to have to pay that kind of salary to get decent players at this level, and i'm sure if NJ felt he was worth it then the board would've backed him to match Preston's offer. If for example it was Lloyd Jones, i don't doubt we'd have offered it. 

    So i take this as Jones/Chapple deciding we can replace him and better to spend that kind of wage elsewhere.