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King Charles III diagnosed with cancer

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    seth plum said:
    When I look at dictatorships by powerful individuals, and I include in that elected dictators such as an almost omnipotent President, then I quite like the notion of a constitutional Monarchy that has the power if it so chooses to keep the politicians in check.
    So as long as the Royals don’t become nutters they have a useful constitutional role to fill, and to an extent their accident of birth constitutes a kind of prison. Hence the compensation of luxury.
    King Charles strikes me as somebody who realises his moderating role, and William might well be the same. I have no idea what George will be like, and anyway I won’t live to see it.
    Another reason why they are so wealthy, is that they will not be open to corruption.
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    I wish him the best. It is a good thing this has been highlighted for the health of all. Now, and I have this gripe about unrelated stories. It is of course a major news item and should be treated as such, but what do we know? We know that whilst being treated for an enlarged prostate, the doctors found cancer elsewhere. We don't know how serious this is although we know the king intends to resume his duties so it would seem treatable. We also know the Prince of Wales will cover his duties whilst he is away. That's about it but our press manage to saturate the airwaves talking about this information that can fit in a paragraph, endlessly!

    How tasteless.🫤
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    100% hope he recovers.

    Monarch or not Cancer is shit. 
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    I wish him the best. It is a good thing this has been highlighted for the health of all. Now, and I have this gripe about unrelated stories. It is of course a major news item and should be treated as such, but what do we know? We know that whilst being treated for an enlarged prostate, the doctors found cancer elsewhere. We don't know how serious this is although we know the king intends to resume his duties so it would seem treatable. We also know the Prince of Wales will cover his duties whilst he is away. That's about it but our press manage to saturate the airwaves talking about this information that can fit in a paragraph, endlessly!

    How tasteless.🫤
    Yet kind of accurate.
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    seth plum said:
    When I look at dictatorships by powerful individuals, and I include in that elected dictators such as an almost omnipotent President, then I quite like the notion of a constitutional Monarchy that has the power if it so chooses to keep the politicians in check.
    So as long as the Royals don’t become nutters they have a useful constitutional role to fill, and to an extent their accident of birth constitutes a kind of prison. Hence the compensation of luxury.
    King Charles strikes me as somebody who realises his moderating role, and William might well be the same. I have no idea what George will be like, and anyway I won’t live to see it.
    Another reason why they are so wealthy, is that they will not be open to corruption.
    Financial corruption maybe…but Andrew?
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    se9addick said:
    sam3110 said:
    Rudders22 said:
    Prince Harry is coming over to see him in the next few days. 
    Usually fairly serious if the family fly in 
    More a bit of look at me... I am flying in from California! Or am I just being a cynic
    Maybe his Dads just been diagnosed with cancer so he wants to come and see him?
    This.  Although the Harry witch hunt is in full swing, Mike Parry of GB News attempting to blame Charles cancer on stress caused by Harry, which is no surprise to anyone..
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    Zero chance of Andrew popping up anywhere as a representative of the monarch. Absolutely zero.
    Spearmint Rihno?
    No.

    You have to be 18 or over.
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    What a horrible rag.  
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    aliwibble said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    I wish him the best. It is a good thing this has been highlighted for the health of all. Now, and I have this gripe about unrelated stories. It is of course a major news item and should be treated as such, but what do we know? We know that whilst being treated for an enlarged prostate, the doctors found cancer elsewhere. We don't know how serious this is although we know the king intends to resume his duties so it would seem treatable. We also know the Prince of Wales will cover his duties whilst he is away. That's about it but our press manage to saturate the airwaves talking about this information that can fit in a paragraph, endlessly!

    How tasteless.🫤
    Yet kind of accurate.
    Yep, it's not Charles and Harry that are the target of that one, it's the press reaction.
    The Times has a similar cartoon


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    I would think it reasonable to respect the fact that the king doesn't want to go into more details. Sadly, when you don't then all these press worms start talking about everything and anything remotely related to it. People take the chance to dig at Harry and Meghan too. It is disgusting really.
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    Journalists are a great part of society, but one thing they often say, which is used to justify sometimes appalling behaviour, is 'it's in the public interest'.
    Really?
    In the interests of the public as decided by one individual?
    I would agree that the Monarch being ill is indeed interesting to those in the public who might have constitutional concerns, but scrutiny of treatment, family reaction and other stuff is simply invasive.
    So much of the downside of life is turned into a form of entertainment, like those endless true crime programmes which seem like death porn for a vapid vacant voyeuristic audience.
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    seth plum said:
    Journalists are a great part of society, but one thing they often say, which is used to justify sometimes appalling behaviour, is 'it's in the public interest'.
    Really?
    In the interests of the public as decided by one individual?
    I would agree that the Monarch being ill is indeed interesting to those in the public who might have constitutional concerns, but scrutiny of treatment, family reaction and other stuff is simply invasive.
    So much of the downside of life is turned into a form of entertainment, like those endless true crime programmes which seem like death porn for a vapid vacant voyeuristic audience.
    I don’t usually have much sympathy for those that live in the spotlight and reap the benefits of fame and celebrity and then complain about it, It’s a life they chose to live. I think though that the royal family are slightly different. The didn’t individually choose or seek that celebrity out. It was just always there. On that basis I think the sometimes hounding the royals experience is way above the reasonable and expected interest that the public has for them. Of course we’re interested in the fact that the monarch has a potentially serious illness but the media frenzy and over reaction to every minutiae of irrelevant detail is for me completely ridiculous. I very much doubt that The King needs to retire to Sandringham because of illness. I think though, had he not chose to seclude himself the media attention would have been intolerable for him and The Queen. 
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    I wish him the best. It is a good thing this has been highlighted for the health of all. Now, and I have this gripe about unrelated stories. It is of course a major news item and should be treated as such, but what do we know? We know that whilst being treated for an enlarged prostate, the doctors found cancer elsewhere. We don't know how serious this is although we know the king intends to resume his duties so it would seem treatable. We also know the Prince of Wales will cover his duties whilst he is away. That's about it but our press manage to saturate the airwaves talking about this information that can fit in a paragraph, endlessly!

    Hardly a surprise why the press are so disliked.

    there is no need for that! 
    For what?
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    I know I’m going to get slated for this.

    Why is he more worthy of our empathy/sympathy, than all the other thousands of people equally going through their own battles?

    I’ve had a couple of friends who both, thankfully, have overcome their battles with cancer but I didn’t start a thread about it!

    I’m looking forward to the backlash;)

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    I know I’m going to get slated for this.

    Why is he more worthy of our empathy/sympathy, than all the other thousands of people equally going through their own battles?

    I’ve had a couple of friends who both, thankfully, have overcome their battles with cancer but I didn’t start a thread about it!

    I’m looking forward to the backlash;)

    Who said he was?
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    I know I’m going to get slated for this.

    Why is he more worthy of our empathy/sympathy, than all the other thousands of people equally going through their own battles?

    I’ve had a couple of friends who both, thankfully, have overcome their battles with cancer but I didn’t start a thread about it!

    I’m looking forward to the backlash;)

    Every sufferer is worthy of thought (not many probably want sympathy).

    Statistically just over a thousand people a day will be told they have a form of cancer.

    That The King has cancer is not statistically unusual (i in 2 of us will have some form of cancer in our lives). 

    What is statistically unusual is that he is The King.
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    I know I’m going to get slated for this.

    Why is he more worthy of our empathy/sympathy, than all the other thousands of people equally going through their own battles?

    I’ve had a couple of friends who both, thankfully, have overcome their battles with cancer but I didn’t start a thread about it!

    I’m looking forward to the backlash;)

    Every sufferer is worthy of thought (not many probably want sympathy).

    Statistically just over a thousand people a day will be told they have a form of cancer.

    That The King has cancer is not statistically unusual (i in 2 of us will have some form of cancer in our lives). 

    What is statistically unusual is that he is The King.
    Equally, I was thinking of the lack of privacy for him, now that it’s world news, does he really want that?

    He has no option now and his cancer will go before him, in any future engagements, though I think I read, that they’re being cut back?
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    I know I’m going to get slated for this.

    Why is he more worthy of our empathy/sympathy, than all the other thousands of people equally going through their own battles?

    I’ve had a couple of friends who both, thankfully, have overcome their battles with cancer but I didn’t start a thread about it!

    I’m looking forward to the backlash;)

    Who knows?
    Why did hundreds of thousands of people queue up for days to take a gander at his old Mum's coffin when she pegged it?

    They wouldn't do it for my old Mum.
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    I know I’m going to get slated for this.

    Why is he more worthy of our empathy/sympathy, than all the other thousands of people equally going through their own battles?

    I’ve had a couple of friends who both, thankfully, have overcome their battles with cancer but I didn’t start a thread about it!

    I’m looking forward to the backlash;)

    Anyone that goes through this horrible illness gets my empathy/sympathy. 

    But this is the king. It’s going to make the news, doesn’t mean he’s getting more sympathy.
    I think it’s the same with any major name be it royalty, celebrity, sports star. 

    It does to me, appear that their suffering is greater than any one else’s, perhaps because it makes the headlines, whereas the everyday person doesn’t. 

    Of course that’s only my interpretation and I could be completely barking!
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    I know I’m going to get slated for this.

    Why is he more worthy of our empathy/sympathy, than all the other thousands of people equally going through their own battles?

    I’ve had a couple of friends who both, thankfully, have overcome their battles with cancer but I didn’t start a thread about it!

    I’m looking forward to the backlash;)

    Who knows?
    Why did hundreds of thousands of people queue up for days to take a gander at his old Mum's coffin when she pegged it?

    They wouldn't do it for my old Mum.
    Exactly.
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    Always one, isn't there.
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    edited February 9
    Off_it said:
    Always one, isn't there.
    I think he made a reasonable point with respect.  
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    Off_it said:
    Always one, isn't there.
    I think he made a reasonable point with respect.  
    The first time, maybe.
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    For the exact reason this thread exists is the exact reason the king has gone into seclusion. Everybody has an interest even if it’s a passing interest in him and his condition because he’s the king. That’s not a criticism of this thread or those posting on it. It’s just the reality. 
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