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League One agent's fees 23/24

cliveclive
in General Charlton

FA figures between February 2023 and February 2024

BARNSLEY 379,108

BLACKPOOL 395,345

BOLTON WANDERERS 262,506

BRISTOL ROVERS 214,359

BURTON ALBION 135,766

CAMBRIDGE UNITED 15,680

CARLISLE UNITED 62,682

CHARLTON ATHLETIC 228,948

CHELTENHAM TOWN 63,100

DERBY COUNTY 434,465

EXETER CITY 107,205

FLEETWOOD TOWN 396,184

LEYTON ORIENT 102,122

LINCOLN CITY 145,601

NORTHAMPTON TOWN 86,050

OXFORD UNITED 254,705

PETERBOROUGH UNITED 218,608

PORT VALE 122,468

PORTSMOUTH 270,965

READING 397,788

SHREWSBURY TOWN 79,173

STEVENAGE 149,107

WIGAN ATHLETIC 391,223

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    Covered EndCovered End
    Fleetwood £396K.
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    BedsaddickBedsaddick
    Parasites 
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    Siv_in_NorfolkSiv_in_Norfolk
    Don't know much about the topic...

    But...if our 220k is spread over e.g. 22 players (sounds roughly right) then 10k agent fee per player doesn't seem top ridiculous 
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    BrazilianceBraziliance
    edited April 12
    Fleetwood spending the third most is astonishing. How is that sustainable for them. 

    Cambridge at 15k seems like a typo on that articles behalf. Very low number, especially with how many ins and outs they've had 


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    stoneroses19stoneroses19
    edited April 12
    Reading and Wigan two of the highest and also the two to have a points deduction this season. 
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    stoneroses19stoneroses19
    Very aware of the money issues within English football, but some of those figures are still shocking. Must be so many dodgy financial situations going on behind the scenes of some clubs. 
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    PragueAddickPragueAddick
    golfaddick said:
    I still don't understand why clubs pay agents. Agents should get paid by the player. Only way you should perhaps pay an Agent is maybe for a "finders fee". 
    Exactly, its my main beef with the whole sleazy set-up. In normal business recruiters are paid only by employers. No way by 'candidates'.

    The PFA wanted to break it up so that an agent was paid only by clients while the PFA would set up a unit to look after players. 
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    cliveclive
    Full details can be found here.
    https://www.thefa.com/news/2024/apr/12/payments-and-transactions
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    cliveclive
    Braziliance said:
    Fleetwood spending the third most is astonishing. How is that sustainable for them. 

    Cambridge at 15k seems like a typo on that articles behalf. Very low number, especially with how many ins and outs they've had 


    Seems to be correct.
    Cambridge United were the smallest spenders in the third tier, shelling out just £15,680 on agent fees.

    https://uk.news.yahoo.com/oxford-united-cut-back-more-141728451.html
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    msomertonmsomerton
    So are spending on players comes in tenth, not in the top 4 of the league.
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    Dazzler21Dazzler21
    edited April 13
    Bedsaddick said:
    Parasites 
     Are they though? So long as they're getting the best deals for their clients they're doing the same as any recruiter.

    This also applies for the question on why the club pays them and not the player. The worker doesn't pay the recruiter, the business recruiting the worker does. 
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    Todds_right_hookTodds_right_hook
    Braziliance said:
    Fleetwood spending the third most is astonishing. How is that sustainable for them. 

    Cambridge at 15k seems like a typo on that articles behalf. Very low number, especially with how many ins and outs they've had 


    Have you read the thread about Taylor negotiating on behalf of his national team to get bowyer? He is such a good guy, he acts as his teammates agents too
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    se9addickse9addick
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    Parasites 
     Are they though? So long as they're getting the best deals for their clients they're doing the same as any recruiter.

    This also applies for the question on why the club pays them and not the player. The worker doesn't pay the recruiter, the business recruiting the worker does. 
    Undoubtedly there are some (probably many) agents that are wrongun’s but the profession as a whole helps to level the balance of power between young men/boys who may not have tons of experience or people they can call on to help in the negotiation of relatively significant contracts and football clubs who have resources dedicated to the matter. 

    If people think agents are dodgy but football clubs would always act with upmost integrity if they weren’t there then they are sadly mistaken. 
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    PragueAddickPragueAddick
    se9addick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    Parasites 
     Are they though? So long as they're getting the best deals for their clients they're doing the same as any recruiter.

    This also applies for the question on why the club pays them and not the player. The worker doesn't pay the recruiter, the business recruiting the worker does. 
    Undoubtedly there are some (probably many) agents that are wrongun’s but the profession as a whole helps to level the balance of power between young men/boys who may not have tons of experience or people they can call on to help in the negotiation of relatively significant contracts and football clubs who have resources dedicated to the matter. 

    If people think agents are dodgy but football clubs would always act with upmost integrity if they weren’t there then they are sadly mistaken. 
    That’s generally true, of course, but glosses over the specific business model of football agents, which involves practices for which “conflict of interest” doesn’t begin to cover it. Revenue stream from players and from clubs, and from each other.  Nothing to stop them and nothing to declare. You can read articles in The Athletic about deals at elite levels which involve chains of agents in different countries, all taking their “cut” and for what professional practice exactly? Then, shall I mention Mohammed Sala (RIP) ? 

    Then there is the question of what professional skills you bring as an agent. Since there are no “qualifications”, you just pay a small fee to the FA for registration, the answer can quite easily be “fuck all”, and yet they are all apparently doing very well for themselves. There are other professions for which being a rat up a drain is an essential attribute, but few legal ones where it is the only essential attribute.

    The answer is regulation, wholesale, but the trouble is, it has to be at global level, which means FIFA. So that’ll go well….
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    Off_itOff_it
    PragueAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    Parasites 
     Are they though? So long as they're getting the best deals for their clients they're doing the same as any recruiter.

    This also applies for the question on why the club pays them and not the player. The worker doesn't pay the recruiter, the business recruiting the worker does. 
    Undoubtedly there are some (probably many) agents that are wrongun’s but the profession as a whole helps to level the balance of power between young men/boys who may not have tons of experience or people they can call on to help in the negotiation of relatively significant contracts and football clubs who have resources dedicated to the matter. 

    If people think agents are dodgy but football clubs would always act with upmost integrity if they weren’t there then they are sadly mistaken. 
    That’s generally true, of course, but glosses over the specific business model of football agents, which involves practices for which “conflict of interest” doesn’t begin to cover it. Revenue stream from players and from clubs, and from each other.  Nothing to stop them and nothing to declare. You can read articles in The Athletic about deals at elite levels which involve chains of agents in different countries, all taking their “cut” and for what professional practice exactly? Then, shall I mention Mohammed Sala (RIP) ? 

    Then there is the question of what professional skills you bring as an agent. Since there are no “qualifications”, you just pay a small fee to the FA for registration, the answer can quite easily be “fuck all”, and yet they are all apparently doing very well for themselves. There are other professions for which being a rat up a drain is an essential attribute, but few legal ones where it is the only essential attribute.

    The answer is regulation, wholesale, but the trouble is, it has to be at global level, which means FIFA. So that’ll go well….

    Emiliano Sala


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    MrOneLungMrOneLung
    There is absolutely no reason why any football club should be paying an agent a fee. 

    The agent works for and represents the player.  It is their job to get their players a job/new contract. 
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    PragueAddickPragueAddick
    Off_it said:
    PragueAddick said:
    se9addick said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Bedsaddick said:
    Parasites 
     Are they though? So long as they're getting the best deals for their clients they're doing the same as any recruiter.

    This also applies for the question on why the club pays them and not the player. The worker doesn't pay the recruiter, the business recruiting the worker does. 
    Undoubtedly there are some (probably many) agents that are wrongun’s but the profession as a whole helps to level the balance of power between young men/boys who may not have tons of experience or people they can call on to help in the negotiation of relatively significant contracts and football clubs who have resources dedicated to the matter. 

    If people think agents are dodgy but football clubs would always act with upmost integrity if they weren’t there then they are sadly mistaken. 
    That’s generally true, of course, but glosses over the specific business model of football agents, which involves practices for which “conflict of interest” doesn’t begin to cover it. Revenue stream from players and from clubs, and from each other.  Nothing to stop them and nothing to declare. You can read articles in The Athletic about deals at elite levels which involve chains of agents in different countries, all taking their “cut” and for what professional practice exactly? Then, shall I mention Mohammed Sala (RIP) ? 

    Then there is the question of what professional skills you bring as an agent. Since there are no “qualifications”, you just pay a small fee to the FA for registration, the answer can quite easily be “fuck all”, and yet they are all apparently doing very well for themselves. There are other professions for which being a rat up a drain is an essential attribute, but few legal ones where it is the only essential attribute.

    The answer is regulation, wholesale, but the trouble is, it has to be at global level, which means FIFA. So that’ll go well….

    Emiliano Sala


    Ta. Getting to the age where I should always check up less familiar names before posting.🙁
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    PragueAddickPragueAddick
    MrOneLung said:
    There is absolutely no reason why any football club should be paying an agent a fee. 

    The agent works for and represents the player.  It is their job to get their players a job/new contract. 
    Should be easy to regulate that then. The trouble is, this is the agent playing the role that exec search consultants play for proper businesses. They might persuade the owner that they know the “landscape” - which clubs are imploding off the field, which manager is pissing off most of his squad,even which players have private issues which might need to be considered. If an agent can actually do that ( as opposed to just say they can) that would be a potentially valuable service. 

    Agents are also very good at stroking owners’ egos. Duchatelet famously claimed he would save loads of money across his network by not using agents. Then he went and hired that Dudu Duhan geezer on some kind of exclusive deal. I expect Duhan was so ingratiating that RD thought he could safely ask him to explain the offside rule and why it exists. 

    But yes agents  absolutely cannot be allowed to play both roles.
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    msomertonmsomerton
    Given those agent fees then are spending on players is about league 1 midtable,  not top 6 as people have said. 
    So we should not be to disaponted by the squads  performance. It is only a little below where we might expect given the money spent on the squad.
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    SomervilleAddickSomervilleAddick
    I have no idea why clubs pay agents - if you have a scouting department, you should be identifying the players you want, and your management team should be doing the negotiating. 

    The equivalent for this is not the business world, where business recruit from a pool of unknown people via recruitment agencies. This is the entertainment world, where you’re trying to get people you know about to appear in your production, and their agent is trying to get the best deal for their client. 

    And maybe there’s at least one aspect of this a new regulator can do - forbid agencies working both sides of the deal. 
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    Covered EndCovered End
    msomerton said:
    Given those agent fees then OUR spending on players is about league 1 midtable,  not top 6 as people have said. 
    So we should not be to disaponted by the squads  performance. It is only a little below where we might expect given the money spent on the squad.
    The wages budget was said to be somewhere between 3rd-6th.
    No claims were made re how much we spent on agent fees.
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    redmanredman
    how is an agents fee worked out? Who sets it? Is it a standard calculation based on transfer fees and players wages or are there other factors. 
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    Off_itOff_it
    redman said:
    how is an agents fee worked out? Who sets it? Is it a standard calculation based on transfer fees and players wages or are there other factors. 
    It could be any number of different ways. Depends on the contracts the agent has with the player and/or club.


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    msomertonmsomerton
    Covered End said:
    msomerton said:
    Given those agent fees then OUR spending on players is about league 1 midtable,  not top 6 as people have said. 
    So we should not be to disaponted by the squads  performance. It is only a little below where we might expect given the money spent on the squad.
    The wages budget was said to be somewhere between 3rd-6th.
    No claims were made re how much we spent on agent fees.
    So we are giving free agent players who are unfit over the hill or not wanted by other clubs large salaries is it. 
    That is great business and recruitment.
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    Dazzler21Dazzler21
    MrOneLung said:
    There is absolutely no reason why any football club should be paying an agent a fee. 

    The agent works for and represents the player.  It is their job to get their players a job/new contract. 
    Just like a recruiter who is paid by businesses not the worker. 
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