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  • edited May 6
    clive said:
    clive said:
    Crawley Town Football Club is disappointed to announce that this afternoon's Sky Bet League Two Play-Off Semi-Final first leg has been postponed due to a waterlogged surface at the Broadfield Stadium.
    https://www.crawleytownfc.com/news/2024/may/mk-dons-match-postponed/
    That must be a pretty unique situation. If they want to keep the semi finals in the same order, with the higher team playing at home in the second leg, then surely Thursday's second leg will have to be moved back and this first leg played first?

     

    MK Dons' Play-Off first leg fixture against Crawley Town at Broadfield Stadium has been postponed due to a waterlogged pitch.

    MK Dons will now travel to Broadfield Stadium on Tuesday 7 May with kick-off scheduled for 7:30pm.

    As a result of the rearranged tie, the second leg at Stadium MK will also be moved to a later date of Saturday 11 May with kick-off set for 7:45pm.

    https://www.mkdons.com/news/2024/may/crawley-town-play-off-first-leg-postponed/

    Not that they get massive crowds anyway, but a Saturday night home game for the second leg has got to be better for the atmosphere than a Thursday night.
  • Charlie Kirk on the bench for Crewe, in their 5:30pm KO against Doncaster
  • Crewe: Stryjek, Cooney, Adebisi, Williams, Demetriou, Tracey, Tabiner, Holicek, Nevitt, Austerfield, Billington. Subs: Lenarcik, Long, Thomas, Baker-Richardson, Turns, Rowe, Kirk.

    Doncaster: Lo-Tutala, Sterry, Maxwell, Anderson, Wood, Molyneux, Biggins, Bailey, Ironside, Craig, Adelakun. Subs: Jones, Olowu, Broadbent, Rowe, Hurst, Westbrooke, Waters.
  • Crewe 0-1 Doncaster

    Molyneux
  • Crewe 0-2 Doncaster

    Biggins
  • Doncaster are on some run of form.
  • Kirk was completely anonymous again. Don’t even think he touched the ball.
  • edited May 6
    JaShea99 said:
    Kirk was completely anonymous again. Don’t even think he touched the ball.
    😂 Take it this is banter

    He was an unused sub.

    Thought Donny looked very good. Don’t fancy our chances playing against them if they come up.
  • JaShea99 said:
    Kirk was completely anonymous again. Don’t even think he touched the ball.
    😂 Take it this is banter

    He was an unused sub.

    Thought Donny looked very good. Don’t fancy our chances playing against them if they come up.
    I too thought they looked better than Charlton. 
  • An incredible turnaround from Doncaster. They were 22nd on the 27th January!
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  • JaShea99 said:
    Kirk was completely anonymous again. Don’t even think he touched the ball.
    😂 Take it this is banter

    He was an unused sub.

    Thought Donny looked very good. Don’t fancy our chances playing against them if they come up.
    I too thought they looked better than Charlton. 
    Based on the fact that we lost to Crawley, Newport & Gillingham last season it’s fair to say that quite a few L2 sides are likely to be better than our squad that just finished 16th in league one.

    Lets hope NJ gets us a new first 11 by Aug or I think we will see the likes of Wrexham & Stockport giving us the run around next season.


  • An incredible turnaround from Doncaster. They were 22nd on the 27th January!
    I didn't realise Grant McCann had been there all season, for some reason i thought he went in there at the start of 2024 and that led to their incredible turnaround.

    Fair play to the owner for not getting rid of him as it must've been very tempting to make a change when they were right near the bottom and going nowhere.
  • edited May 7
    What do people think of the relegation play offs in the SPL? Is that something that could/would work in the EFL?

    For reference: 

    Promotion and relegation[edit]

    The bottom placed Premiership club at the end of the season is relegated and swaps places with the winner of the Scottish Championship,[3] provided that the winner satisfies Premiership entry criteria. With the creation of the SPFL, promotion and relegation play-offs involving the top flight were introduced for the first time in seventeen years.[4][8] The Premiership club in eleventh place plays the Championship play-off winners over two legs, with the winner earning the right to play in the Scottish Premiership the following season.[9] This enables two clubs to be relegated from the Premiership each season, with two being promoted. Prior to the creation of the Scottish Premiership, only a single club could be relegated each season - with only the second tier champions being promoted. The Scottish Football League had used play-offs amongst its three divisions since 2007

  • Dazzler21 said:
    What do people think of the relegation play offs in the SPL? Is that something that could/would work in the EFL?

    For reference: 

    Promotion and relegation[edit]

    The bottom placed Premiership club at the end of the season is relegated and swaps places with the winner of the Scottish Championship,[3] provided that the winner satisfies Premiership entry criteria. With the creation of the SPFL, promotion and relegation play-offs involving the top flight were introduced for the first time in seventeen years.[4][8] The Premiership club in eleventh place plays the Championship play-off winners over two legs, with the winner earning the right to play in the Scottish Premiership the following season.[9] This enables two clubs to be relegated from the Premiership each season, with two being promoted. Prior to the creation of the Scottish Premiership, only a single club could be relegated each season - with only the second tier champions being promoted. The Scottish Football League had used play-offs amongst its three divisions since 2007

    It is basically what we used to have. Hence the play off games against Leeds in 86/87. It then got scrapped in favour of the current model.

    Personally despite us staying up back then I prefer the current model. By including higher division teams in you're just giving them another way of staying up, and potentially letting them off a dreadful season. You can already see the gap between the Premier League and the Championship. This would only increase the gap even further. For Championship - League One and League One to League Two it's not needed. You need to be able to have that movement, and you'd also lose the big one off play off final games, and the excitement of a trip to Wembley etc.

    Also works better in Scotland with the smaller divisions. Here it would just take away an opportunity for some teams seasons to stay alive for longer.
    I didn't realise we used to have that. Before my time! Good points made though. 
  • JaShea99 said:
    Kirk was completely anonymous again. Don’t even think he touched the ball.
    😂 Take it this is banter

    He was an unused sub.

    Thought Donny looked very good. Don’t fancy our chances playing against them if they come up.
    I too thought they looked better than Charlton. 
    Based on the fact that we lost to Crawley, Newport & Gillingham last season it’s fair to say that quite a few L2 sides are likely to be better than our squad that just finished 16th in league one.

    Lets hope NJ gets us a new first 11 by Aug or I think we will see the likes of Wrexham & Stockport giving us the run around next season.


    I've not seen much of Doncaster - very good run they're on though - but Stockport and Wrexham both look decent and will strengthen too.

    Going to be a very tough league next year, Rotherham always seem to be up there, Birmingham will invest to try to get straight back up.

    Really frustrating we dicked around this season, League 1 will be much harder to go up from next year than it was this.
  • And Huddersfield will go on another 2,000 game unbeaten run.
  • iaitch said:
    And Huddersfield will go on another 2,000 game unbeaten run.
    …until they play Charlton
  • I've had a small wager on Bolton (L1) and M K Dons (L2) .. BUT, (in late retrospect)  Doncaster (L2) now look the far better bet
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  • Dazzler21 said:
    What do people think of the relegation play offs in the SPL? Is that something that could/would work in the EFL?

    For reference: 

    Promotion and relegation[edit]

    The bottom placed Premiership club at the end of the season is relegated and swaps places with the winner of the Scottish Championship,[3] provided that the winner satisfies Premiership entry criteria. With the creation of the SPFL, promotion and relegation play-offs involving the top flight were introduced for the first time in seventeen years.[4][8] The Premiership club in eleventh place plays the Championship play-off winners over two legs, with the winner earning the right to play in the Scottish Premiership the following season.[9] This enables two clubs to be relegated from the Premiership each season, with two being promoted. Prior to the creation of the Scottish Premiership, only a single club could be relegated each season - with only the second tier champions being promoted. The Scottish Football League had used play-offs amongst its three divisions since 2007

    86/7 was a different format, and better imo. 
    The bottom 4th placed team went into the play-offs with three from the division below.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    What do people think of the relegation play offs in the SPL? Is that something that could/would work in the EFL?

    For reference: 

    Promotion and relegation[edit]

    The bottom placed Premiership club at the end of the season is relegated and swaps places with the winner of the Scottish Championship,[3] provided that the winner satisfies Premiership entry criteria. With the creation of the SPFL, promotion and relegation play-offs involving the top flight were introduced for the first time in seventeen years.[4][8] The Premiership club in eleventh place plays the Championship play-off winners over two legs, with the winner earning the right to play in the Scottish Premiership the following season.[9] This enables two clubs to be relegated from the Premiership each season, with two being promoted. Prior to the creation of the Scottish Premiership, only a single club could be relegated each season - with only the second tier champions being promoted. The Scottish Football League had used play-offs amongst its three divisions since 2007

    It is basically what we used to have. Hence the play off games against Leeds in 86/87. It then got scrapped in favour of the current model.

    Personally despite us staying up back then I prefer the current model. By including higher division teams in you're just giving them another way of staying up, and potentially letting them off a dreadful season. You can already see the gap between the Premier League and the Championship. This would only increase the gap even further. For Championship - League One and League One to League Two it's not needed. You need to be able to have that movement, and you'd also lose the big one off play off final games, and the excitement of a trip to Wembley etc.

    Also works better in Scotland with the smaller divisions. Here it would just take away an opportunity for some teams seasons to stay alive for longer.
    Scottish football should be relegated.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    What do people think of the relegation play offs in the SPL? Is that something that could/would work in the EFL?

    For reference: 

    Promotion and relegation[edit]

    The bottom placed Premiership club at the end of the season is relegated and swaps places with the winner of the Scottish Championship,[3] provided that the winner satisfies Premiership entry criteria. With the creation of the SPFL, promotion and relegation play-offs involving the top flight were introduced for the first time in seventeen years.[4][8] The Premiership club in eleventh place plays the Championship play-off winners over two legs, with the winner earning the right to play in the Scottish Premiership the following season.[9] This enables two clubs to be relegated from the Premiership each season, with two being promoted. Prior to the creation of the Scottish Premiership, only a single club could be relegated each season - with only the second tier champions being promoted. The Scottish Football League had used play-offs amongst its three divisions since 2007

    86/7 was a different format, and better imo. 
    The bottom 4th placed team went into the play-offs with three from the division below.
    I think Charlton were the only higher league team to retain their place through the play-offs when this system was in place.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    What do people think of the relegation play offs in the SPL? Is that something that could/would work in the EFL?

    For reference: 

    Promotion and relegation[edit]

    The bottom placed Premiership club at the end of the season is relegated and swaps places with the winner of the Scottish Championship,[3] provided that the winner satisfies Premiership entry criteria. With the creation of the SPFL, promotion and relegation play-offs involving the top flight were introduced for the first time in seventeen years.[4][8] The Premiership club in eleventh place plays the Championship play-off winners over two legs, with the winner earning the right to play in the Scottish Premiership the following season.[9] This enables two clubs to be relegated from the Premiership each season, with two being promoted. Prior to the creation of the Scottish Premiership, only a single club could be relegated each season - with only the second tier champions being promoted. The Scottish Football League had used play-offs amongst its three divisions since 2007

    86/7 was a different format, and better imo. 
    The bottom 4th placed team went into the play-offs with three from the division below.
    I think Charlton were the only higher league team to retain their place through the play-offs when this system was in place.
    It created a very intense rivalry between Gillingham and Swindon.
  • Ref cocked up there, not a foul. 
  • Possible pen to Barnsley, not given, should be 1-1 in my opinion.
  • Crawley 2-0 up over MKD at HT.
  • Barnsley pull one back. 3-2 on agg.
  • Now there’ll be some Bolton nerves
  • edited May 7
    Fantastic goal Collins from about 30 yards out to give Bolton the two goal advantage back


    Still no idea why he chose Bolton over Michael Appleton’s Charlton…
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