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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,754
    edited April 29
    West Ham's abysmal season has definitely gone a bit under the radar with all that focus on the demise of Manchester United and Spurs. There are just the three relegated teams below them in the PL and yet only two teams have lost less days from injury this season.

    Clearly having a player like Antonio out is a loss but not as massive as say Rodri at City and it really doesn't explain why they should be so far behind a team such as Brighton who have lost in excess of 1,600 days as opposed to West ham's which is barely 600.

    This is the full list (team with most days lost at the top and the club's respective position in the PL in brackets):

    1.   Brighton (9)
    2.   Brentford (11) *
    3.   Wolves (13)
    4.   Man Utd (14)
    5.   Chelsea (5)
    6.   Newcastle (3)
    7.   Spurs (16)
    8.   Ipswich (18)
    9.   Arsenal (2)
    10. Everton (15)
    11. Man City (4)
    12. Bournemouth (10)
    13. Southampton (20)
    14. C. Palace (12)
    15. Leicester (19)
    16. Aston Villa (7)
    17. Liverpool (1)
    18. West Ham (17)
    19. Fulham (8)
    20. Nott'm Forest (6) * 

    * game in hand
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,023
    https://www.afcb.co.uk/news/2025/april/25/afc-bournemouth-announces-acquisition-of-vitality-stadium/

    Had missed this but Bournemouth have brought Dean Court outright , aiming to get it up to 20k as opposed to moving and building a new stadium. 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    PSG made 10 changes for their league game today.

    Arsenal surprisingly only made 2, going with as strong a team as possible...........and lost 2-1 at home to Bournemouth .

    If they go out of Europe in midweek and somehow also blow top 5, then i fear for the sanity of Arsenal fans. For context, they are 7 points clear of 6th, but have played a game more, and they have Liverpool away next week.
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,180
    edited May 3
    PSG made 10 changes for their league game today.

    Arsenal surprisingly only made 2, going with as strong a team as possible...........and lost 2-1 at home to Bournemouth .

    If they go out of Europe in midweek and somehow also blow top 5, then i fear for the sanity of Arsenal fans. For context, they are 7 points clear of 6th, but have played a game more, and they have Liverpool away next week.

  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    PSG made 10 changes for their league game today.

    Arsenal surprisingly only made 2, going with as strong a team as possible...........and lost 2-1 at home to Bournemouth .

    If they go out of Europe in midweek and somehow also blow top 5, then i fear for the sanity of Arsenal fans. For context, they are 7 points clear of 6th, but have played a game more, and they have Liverpool away next week.
    And Newcastle the week after
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    So a very unusual thing happened in the West Ham v Spurs game...

    no, not Spurs not losing for a change... but Paqueta bursting into tears after picking up a blatant yellow card in the second half.

    Pray tell what is going on there?
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    I'm enjoying everything to do with the Alexander-Arnold transfer.

    Firstly his crap robotic autocue reading of 'After 20 years at Liverpool Football Club I will be leaving at the end of the season'.

    Just say it, surely you know what this is about?

    Secondly that more English players are going abroad, like Kane, Bellingham, Alexander-Arnold - I think more English players learning abroad will make the national team better.

    But mainly the hilarious over the top reaction of Liverpool fans, calling him a snake, a rat, demanding he isn't allowed to play the last few games etc.

    This isn't a Sol Campbell promising he'll stay then signing for your biggest rivals, it's not a Lyle Taylor type thing where he's refused to play.  It's literally just a player not signing a new contract and signing for a bigger club - like so many have before (including some who signed for Liverpool).  Matip, say - Schalke youth team player, left for Liverpool on a free.

    I think it's mainly that they can't believe there's a bigger club out there - 99% of teams are used to there being a football food chain but they're in shock that someone dares think there's a bigger club than Liverpool.  He's won a load for his boyhood club and fancies playing abroad, good for him.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    I think it's more because the owners don't spend much so they're annoyed at missing out on ~£80-100m. Won't take long before he's fondly thought of again. Although, worth remembering how people feel about Parker still, these things can hang around for ages
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,210
    fenaddick said:
    I think it's more because the owners don't spend much so they're annoyed at missing out on ~£80-100m. Won't take long before he's fondly thought of again. Although, worth remembering how people feel about Parker still, these things can hang around for ages
    Very different scenario with Parker though. He left while we were approaching something special that season. Alexander-Arnold has stayed with Liverpool a long time, helping to achieve great things. 
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    fenaddick said:
    I think it's more because the owners don't spend much so they're annoyed at missing out on ~£80-100m. Won't take long before he's fondly thought of again. Although, worth remembering how people feel about Parker still, these things can hang around for ages
    Very different scenario with Parker though. He left while we were approaching something special that season. Alexander-Arnold has stayed with Liverpool a long time, helping to achieve great things. 
    Wasn’t comparing the scenarios, just how long it takes for feelings to shift 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    fenaddick said:
    I think it's more because the owners don't spend much so they're annoyed at missing out on ~£80-100m. Won't take long before he's fondly thought of again. Although, worth remembering how people feel about Parker still, these things can hang around for ages
    I'm sure they are, but that's life, and also the club's fault - they could have sold him a year or two ago if he wouldn't agree a new contract.

    If/when Small leaves to sign for someone else in the summer, he's not a snake, it's just a shame.  Same with Dobson last year.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,210
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    I think it's more because the owners don't spend much so they're annoyed at missing out on ~£80-100m. Won't take long before he's fondly thought of again. Although, worth remembering how people feel about Parker still, these things can hang around for ages
    Very different scenario with Parker though. He left while we were approaching something special that season. Alexander-Arnold has stayed with Liverpool a long time, helping to achieve great things. 
    Wasn’t comparing the scenarios, just how long it takes for feelings to shift 
    Yeah read your post again mate. Ignore me. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,238
    JohnBoyUK said:
    So a very unusual thing happened in the West Ham v Spurs game...

    no, not Spurs not losing for a change... but Paqueta bursting into tears after picking up a blatant yellow card in the second half.

    Pray tell what is going on there?
    Probably bet a week's salary on someone else getting the next yellow
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    I'm enjoying everything to do with the Alexander-Arnold transfer.

    Firstly his crap robotic autocue reading of 'After 20 years at Liverpool Football Club I will be leaving at the end of the season'.

    Just say it, surely you know what this is about?

    Secondly that more English players are going abroad, like Kane, Bellingham, Alexander-Arnold - I think more English players learning abroad will make the national team better.

    But mainly the hilarious over the top reaction of Liverpool fans, calling him a snake, a rat, demanding he isn't allowed to play the last few games etc.

    This isn't a Sol Campbell promising he'll stay then signing for your biggest rivals, it's not a Lyle Taylor type thing where he's refused to play.  It's literally just a player not signing a new contract and signing for a bigger club - like so many have before (including some who signed for Liverpool).  Matip, say - Schalke youth team player, left for Liverpool on a free.

    I think it's mainly that they can't believe there's a bigger club out there - 99% of teams are used to there being a football food chain but they're in shock that someone dares think there's a bigger club than Liverpool.  He's won a load for his boyhood club and fancies playing abroad, good for him.
    I don't think that's the case because plenty of Liverpool fans still love Suarez and Coutinho.

    The issue is how he's gone about it. If he'd left for a fee like Suarez or Coutinho, or like when Kane left Spurs then i don't think you'd have any fuss at all. Their fans issue is him running down his contract and leaving his boyhood club for free. But of course you could equally argue that is the clubs fault for letting it run down.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,942
    I'm enjoying everything to do with the Alexander-Arnold transfer.

    Firstly his crap robotic autocue reading of 'After 20 years at Liverpool Football Club I will be leaving at the end of the season'.

    Just say it, surely you know what this is about?

    Secondly that more English players are going abroad, like Kane, Bellingham, Alexander-Arnold - I think more English players learning abroad will make the national team better.

    But mainly the hilarious over the top reaction of Liverpool fans, calling him a snake, a rat, demanding he isn't allowed to play the last few games etc.

    This isn't a Sol Campbell promising he'll stay then signing for your biggest rivals, it's not a Lyle Taylor type thing where he's refused to play.  It's literally just a player not signing a new contract and signing for a bigger club - like so many have before (including some who signed for Liverpool).  Matip, say - Schalke youth team player, left for Liverpool on a free.

    I think it's mainly that they can't believe there's a bigger club out there - 99% of teams are used to there being a football food chain but they're in shock that someone dares think there's a bigger club than Liverpool.  He's won a load for his boyhood club and fancies playing abroad, good for him.
    I don't think that's the case because plenty of Liverpool fans still love Suarez and Coutinho.

    The issue is how he's gone about it. If he'd left for a fee like Suarez or Coutinho, or like when Kane left Spurs then i don't think you'd have any fuss at all. Their fans issue is him running down his contract and leaving his boyhood club for free. But of course you could equally argue that is the clubs fault for letting it run down.
    Which makes the point really - Suarez was found guilty of racism and bit people, getting bans and missing games, only won a League Cup, tried to push through a move to Arsenal one year and then did with Barcelona the next.

    Alexander-Arnold helped win two league titles and a Champions League, honoured the contract he signed and then moved.  I can understand fans being disappointed but the reaction I've seen so far is a bit crazy to me.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    I'm enjoying everything to do with the Alexander-Arnold transfer.

    Firstly his crap robotic autocue reading of 'After 20 years at Liverpool Football Club I will be leaving at the end of the season'.

    Just say it, surely you know what this is about?

    Secondly that more English players are going abroad, like Kane, Bellingham, Alexander-Arnold - I think more English players learning abroad will make the national team better.

    But mainly the hilarious over the top reaction of Liverpool fans, calling him a snake, a rat, demanding he isn't allowed to play the last few games etc.

    This isn't a Sol Campbell promising he'll stay then signing for your biggest rivals, it's not a Lyle Taylor type thing where he's refused to play.  It's literally just a player not signing a new contract and signing for a bigger club - like so many have before (including some who signed for Liverpool).  Matip, say - Schalke youth team player, left for Liverpool on a free.

    I think it's mainly that they can't believe there's a bigger club out there - 99% of teams are used to there being a football food chain but they're in shock that someone dares think there's a bigger club than Liverpool.  He's won a load for his boyhood club and fancies playing abroad, good for him.
    I don't think that's the case because plenty of Liverpool fans still love Suarez and Coutinho.

    The issue is how he's gone about it. If he'd left for a fee like Suarez or Coutinho, or like when Kane left Spurs then i don't think you'd have any fuss at all. Their fans issue is him running down his contract and leaving his boyhood club for free. But of course you could equally argue that is the clubs fault for letting it run down.
    Which makes the point really - Suarez was found guilty of racism and bit people, getting bans and missing games, only won a League Cup, tried to push through a move to Arsenal one year and then did with Barcelona the next.

    Alexander-Arnold helped win two league titles and a Champions League, honoured the contract he signed and then moved.  I can understand fans being disappointed but the reaction I've seen so far is a bit crazy to me.
    It's the same with any club though, no one wants to see their best players leave, and certainly not for free.

    George Dobson goes on a free - fans are not happy.
    Alex Gilbey goes on a free - no one gives a shit.

    I can see both sides of it. I get why Liverpool fans are not happy, and equally i get that Trent is nearly 27 and wants to go and play in a different league.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    I’ve given up trying to understand what a player can do in the run up for a penalty, all the while a keeper can’t move an inch…..BUT, Eze literally took a step backwards during his run up there. Surely you can’t do that.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    JohnBoyUK said:
    So a very unusual thing happened in the West Ham v Spurs game...

    no, not Spurs not losing for a change... but Paqueta bursting into tears after picking up a blatant yellow card in the second half.

    Pray tell what is going on there?

    Hopefully his home town in Brazil didn't all bet on him getting a yellow card this time as this is the investigation that has been on-going including family members of Paqueta.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited May 6
    I'm enjoying everything to do with the Alexander-Arnold transfer.

    Firstly his crap robotic autocue reading of 'After 20 years at Liverpool Football Club I will be leaving at the end of the season'.

    Just say it, surely you know what this is about?

    Secondly that more English players are going abroad, like Kane, Bellingham, Alexander-Arnold - I think more English players learning abroad will make the national team better.

    But mainly the hilarious over the top reaction of Liverpool fans, calling him a snake, a rat, demanding he isn't allowed to play the last few games etc.

    This isn't a Sol Campbell promising he'll stay then signing for your biggest rivals, it's not a Lyle Taylor type thing where he's refused to play.  It's literally just a player not signing a new contract and signing for a bigger club - like so many have before (including some who signed for Liverpool).  Matip, say - Schalke youth team player, left for Liverpool on a free.

    I think it's mainly that they can't believe there's a bigger club out there - 99% of teams are used to there being a football food chain but they're in shock that someone dares think there's a bigger club than Liverpool.  He's won a load for his boyhood club and fancies playing abroad, good for him.
    I don't think that's the case because plenty of Liverpool fans still love Suarez and Coutinho.

    The issue is how he's gone about it. If he'd left for a fee like Suarez or Coutinho, or like when Kane left Spurs then i don't think you'd have any fuss at all. Their fans issue is him running down his contract and leaving his boyhood club for free. But of course you could equally argue that is the clubs fault for letting it run down.
    Which makes the point really - Suarez was found guilty of racism and bit people, getting bans and missing games, only won a League Cup, tried to push through a move to Arsenal one year and then did with Barcelona the next.

    Alexander-Arnold helped win two league titles and a Champions League, honoured the contract he signed and then moved.  I can understand fans being disappointed but the reaction I've seen so far is a bit crazy to me.
    It's the same with any club though, no one wants to see their best players leave, and certainly not for free.

    George Dobson goes on a free - fans are not happy.
    Alex Gilbey goes on a free - no one gives a shit.

    I can see both sides of it. I get why Liverpool fans are not happy, and equally i get that Trent is nearly 27 and wants to go and play in a different league.

    Trent is a unique player and us we all know is more of a quarter back than a right back. Can do 35 yard passes with accuracy but can defend poorly when in a one on one defensive RB position.
    TAA will probably join Bellingham at Madrid and Mbappe and Vinicius will be licking their lips at the service they will receive.

    Trent was always likely to go at 27 and Salah 32 and Van Dijk 33 to stay if they got the length of contract and wages which were commensurate with their status at Liverpool.
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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,216
    JohnBoyUK said:
    So a very unusual thing happened in the West Ham v Spurs game...

    no, not Spurs not losing for a change... but Paqueta bursting into tears after picking up a blatant yellow card in the second half.

    Pray tell what is going on there?

    Hopefully his home town in Brazil didn't all bet on him getting a yellow card this time as this is the investigation that has been on-going including family members of Paqueta.

    Maybe they all backed him not to get a yellow card?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    iaitch said:
    JohnBoyUK said:
    So a very unusual thing happened in the West Ham v Spurs game...

    no, not Spurs not losing for a change... but Paqueta bursting into tears after picking up a blatant yellow card in the second half.

    Pray tell what is going on there?

    Hopefully his home town in Brazil didn't all bet on him getting a yellow card this time as this is the investigation that has been on-going including family members of Paqueta.

    Maybe they all backed him not to get a yellow card?

    Could be 😀
    Just checked and he has received 24 yellows and zero reds in 90 apps for West Ham.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,216
    Probably better odds to not get a yellow with those stats.
  • Callumcafc
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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    Just over 5 mins to go but Southampton drawing 0-0 with City, don’t think anyone expected that 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    edited May 10
    Commentators have said that Southampton have kept 2 clean sheets in their last 40 Premier League games, and whilst I presume its because its coming against Man City, they've said:

    "This is why the Premier League is wonderful"
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    As they used to say, that was a coupon buster. City should still be ok for Top 5, but that makes things a bit more interesting if the other teams below them win.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288

    Sorry if we got your hopes up, @dcfcofficial 😬

    — Southampton FC (@SouthamptonFC) May 10, 2025
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    City drawing and Villa winning today has made the race for the CL places even tighter now.

    If Newcastle-Chelsea is a draw and Forest beat Leicester you'll have 5 clubs chasing 3 spots who are separated by just 2 points.
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,760
    Stonewall red for Jackson imo