Club accounts confirm £1.9m on player purchases for 23/24. Given the profiles and reported figures for the other deals, it's fair to conclude that we didpay a significant upfront fee for Gassan.
Club accounts confirm £1.9m on player purchases for 23/24. Given the profiles and reported figures for the other deals, it's fair to conclude that we didpay a significant upfront fee for Gassan.
Accounts are until the end of June 2024 and Ahadme didn't join until July. He'll be in the next set of accounts most likely
Club accounts confirm £1.9m on player purchases for 23/24. Given the profiles and reported figures for the other deals, it's fair to conclude that we didpay a significant upfront fee for Gassan.
Club accounts confirm £1.9m on player purchases for 23/24. Given the profiles and reported figures for the other deals, it's fair to conclude that we didpay a significant upfront fee for Gassan.
Club accounts confirm £1.9m on player purchases for 23/24. Given the profiles and reported figures for the other deals, it's fair to conclude that we didpay a significant upfront fee for Gassan.
Accounts are until the end of June 2024 and Ahadme didn't join until July. He'll be in the next set of accounts most likely
I'm confused... That means we spent 1.9m on just May, Mitchell, Taylor and Gillesphey? They were the only fees from the previous season. Could other deals have been reported in the previous financial year?
Club accounts confirm £1.9m on player purchases for 23/24. Given the profiles and reported figures for the other deals, it's fair to conclude that we didpay a significant upfront fee for Gassan.
Accounts are until the end of June 2024 and Ahadme didn't join until July. He'll be in the next set of accounts most likely
I'm confused... That means we spent 1.9m on just May, Taylor and Gillesphey? They were the only fees from the previous season. Could other deals have been reported in the previous financial year?
I don't fully understand amortisation but I wonder if this is part of it. From what I understand you can spread out the amount you spend on a transfer fee over the length of the contract. So it might be that the £1.9m figure contains a % of deals for players bought in previous seasons. I could be totally wrong there though, I am only going off reading about PL finances in the past
Just seen you added Mitchell into the list which has made me have a look at others. I think the list will also include Edwards, Ramsya and probably a hefty signing fee for Luke Berry as well as a presumably modest one for Mannion. Coventry would also have had a signing on fee so that's 9 players for £1.9m off the top of my head. Plus we will have paid some money for the loans of Bakinson, Fiorini, etc
Just seen you added Mitchell into the list which has made me have a look at others. I think the list will also include Edwards, Ramsya and probably a hefty signing fee for Luke Berry as well as a presumably modest one for Mannion. Coventry would also have had a signing on fee so that's 9 players for £1.9m off the top of my head. Plus we will have paid some money for the loans of Bakinson, Fiorini, etc
Oh well. Numbers-wise, it's still all guesswork, then.
Club accounts confirm £1.9m on player purchases for 23/24. Given the profiles and reported figures for the other deals, it's fair to conclude that we didpay a significant upfront fee for Gassan.
I’m wonder if Gass were to come on he would trigger another another appearance payment to Ipswich and he makes the bench as a just in case…….. in which case he’s off come the summer? Or is he just right down in the pecking order…… and off in the summer if we get a good un’ to replace Chuks and Miles is still around? idle speculation but I’ve done and redone all the perms for 2nd and the playoff finishing places and getting fed up with that now
I’m wonder if Gass were to come on he would trigger another another appearance payment to Ipswich and he makes the bench as a just in case…….. in which case he’s off come the summer? Or is he just right down in the pecking order…… and off in the summer if we get a good un’ to replace Chuks and Miles is still around? idle speculation but I’ve done and redone all the perms for 2nd and the playoff finishing places and getting fed up with that now
20 would be an unusual number of appearances to trigger another payment, but not inconceivable . I suspect he was a Scott signing off the back of his 2 goals against us last season and Jones has come to the conclusion that he’s dreadful .
I’m wonder if Gass were to come on he would trigger another another appearance payment to Ipswich and he makes the bench as a just in case…….. in which case he’s off come the summer? Or is he just right down in the pecking order…… and off in the summer if we get a good un’ to replace Chuks and Miles is still around? idle speculation but I’ve done and redone all the perms for 2nd and the playoff finishing places and getting fed up with that now
He’s on 19 league apps and 23 overall for us. That to me doesn’t feel high enough for there to be clauses a game or two away, considering we paid a decent fee and gave him a long contract.
However I do think it’s very unlikely we paid £1m up front, it’s not as if this ownership have been throwing money around on players. More likely to be made up of various clauses based on the impact he has and perhaps if we win promotion.
Definitely going to be a trimming of the squad whatever division we are in next year. Ahadme, Watson, Thierry Small, Terry Taylor and Chuks either out of contract or attempt to be moved on. That's a sizeable chunk of the wage bill as Chuks, Ahadme and Small will have been at top end of our wage structure and that may once again play against us with trying to move Ahadme on, he's not fancied above this level and his failure this year will not bring many suitors who are prepared to match his wage.
Are we sure the Ahadme fee is even included in the latest accounts to 30/6/2024. He was registered / signed in July 2024. It is pretty unusual to pay for something until the deal is actually done and dusted with the EFL.
We did in 2023/2024 bring in; - Gillesphey, May, Taylor, Edmonds-Green, Edun, Ramsay for fees - Walker, Ward, Isted, Jones, T, Watson, Coventry, Small, Wickham, Lua- Lua on free (Signing & Agent fees) - Fiorini, C Campbell, Tedic, Ladapo, Bakinson, Camara, Abankwah, L Watson (loan fees)
I’m wonder if Gass were to come on he would trigger another another appearance payment to Ipswich and he makes the bench as a just in case…….. in which case he’s off come the summer? Or is he just right down in the pecking order…… and off in the summer if we get a good un’ to replace Chuks and Miles is still around? idle speculation but I’ve done and redone all the perms for 2nd and the playoff finishing places and getting fed up with that now
20 would be an unusual number of appearances to trigger another payment, but not inconceivable . I suspect he was a Scott signing off the back of his 2 goals against us last season and Jones has come to the conclusion that he’s dreadful .
Yes, he always struck me as a Scott signing. Hopefully that Ipswich hotline has been disconnected.
Are we sure the Ahadme fee is even included in the latest accounts to 30/6/2024. He was registered / signed in July 2024. It is pretty unusual to pay for something until the deal is actually done and dusted with the EFL.
We did in 2023/2024 bring in; - Gillesphey, May, Taylor, Edmonds-Green, Edun, Ramsay for fees - Walker, Ward, Isted, Jones, T, Watson, Coventry, Small, Wickham, Lua- Lua on free (Signing & Agent fees) - Fiorini, C Campbell, Tedic, Ladapo, Bakinson, Camara, Abankwah, L Watson (loan fees)
Not sure £1.9m goes far with 23 players.
That's a very good breakdown Grapevine, 16 players no longer at this club and probably only Alfie May In that number, being a success in his short time here.
Are we sure the Ahadme fee is even included in the latest accounts to 30/6/2024. He was registered / signed in July 2024. It is pretty unusual to pay for something until the deal is actually done and dusted with the EFL.
We did in 2023/2024 bring in; - Gillesphey, May, Taylor, Edmonds-Green, Edun, Ramsay for fees - Walker, Ward, Isted, Jones, T, Watson, Coventry, Small, Wickham, Lua- Lua on free (Signing & Agent fees) - Fiorini, C Campbell, Tedic, Ladapo, Bakinson, Camara, Abankwah, L Watson (loan fees)
Not sure £1.9m goes far with 23 players.
That's a very good breakdown Grapevine, 16 players no longer at this club and probably only Alfie May In that number, being a success in his short time here.
Plus Gillesphey, Ramsey, Jones, Small and Coventry who are still with us.
6/23 is still a very poor hit rate even if some of those 17 have also contributed (T Watson, Edun, REG) or in the case of Taylor still have the jury out.
The figure I heard was £830k for Adhadme and that he was very much a Jones signing. That maybe Scott and Methven disowning a deal they made but it does seem that Jones has had the final say since the summer and he played him a lot early on.
I doubt that all £830k was upfront. In any case, as Grapevine points out, any fee would show in the 2024/25 accounts not the FY accounts ending June 2024 where the £1.9m comes from.
I’m not disputing that he was a Jones signing as I have no idea but from what we have seen he doesn’t seem like a jones player. He is too slow to close down on a press, he hasn’t shown he can hold the ball up and he certainly doesn’t look like a goal scorer. Maybe his confidence is low so just not producing and perhaps he will come good but I can’t see it myself I think he will be gone in the Summer and if that fee is accurate then that’s a big number to write off as I can’t see us getting a fee and I suspect we will be paying off his contract
I’m not disputing that he was a Jones signing as I have no idea but from what we have seen he doesn’t seem like a jones player. He is too slow to close down on a press, he hasn’t shown he can hold the ball up and he certainly doesn’t look like a goal scorer. Maybe his confidence is low so just not producing and perhaps he will come good but I can’t see it myself I think he will be gone in the Summer and if that fee is accurate then that’s a big number to write off as I can’t see us getting a fee and I suspect we will be paying off his contract
He’s a big target man that can press. Looking at Jones recent managerial career you can’t get any more “Nathan Jones player” than that. His Luton team had Morris and Adebayo up front and it was clear his original plan here was to build something similar. He even described Leaburn as his perfect type of striker for similar reasons. Ahadme is just not very good and we’ve been better playing differently without him
I’m not disputing that he was a Jones signing as I have no idea but from what we have seen he doesn’t seem like a jones player. He is too slow to close down on a press, he hasn’t shown he can hold the ball up and he certainly doesn’t look like a goal scorer. Maybe his confidence is low so just not producing and perhaps he will come good but I can’t see it myself I think he will be gone in the Summer and if that fee is accurate then that’s a big number to write off as I can’t see us getting a fee and I suspect we will be paying off his contract
He’s a big target man that can press. Looking at Jones recent managerial career you can’t get any more “Nathan Jones player” than that. His Luton team had Morris and Adebayo up front and it was clear his original plan here was to build something similar. He even described Leaburn as his perfect type of striker for similar reasons. Ahadme is just not very good and we’ve been better playing differently without him
Yes, in theory he’s a big man that can win the flick ons and press. In reality he’s not been able to do either, not yet at least. He looked lost in those early games of the season, unable to read the game and remarkably fragile for a big man. Is it a coincidence that once Scott and Methvan left he couldn’t get on the pitch, with even Hylton and Mbick being preferred to him? Hope he scores the winner at Wembley to prove us all wrong.
I’m not disputing that he was a Jones signing as I have no idea but from what we have seen he doesn’t seem like a jones player. He is too slow to close down on a press, he hasn’t shown he can hold the ball up and he certainly doesn’t look like a goal scorer. Maybe his confidence is low so just not producing and perhaps he will come good but I can’t see it myself I think he will be gone in the Summer and if that fee is accurate then that’s a big number to write off as I can’t see us getting a fee and I suspect we will be paying off his contract
He’s a big target man that can press. Looking at Jones recent managerial career you can’t get any more “Nathan Jones player” than that. His Luton team had Morris and Adebayo up front and it was clear his original plan here was to build something similar. He even described Leaburn as his perfect type of striker for similar reasons. Ahadme is just not very good and we’ve been better playing differently without him
Yes, in theory he’s a big man that can win the flick ons and press. In reality he’s not been able to do either, not yet at least. He looked lost in those early games of the season, unable to read the game and remarkably fragile for a big man. Is it a coincidence that once Scott and Methvan left he couldn’t get on the pitch, with even Hylton and Mbick being preferred to him? Hope he scores the winner at Wembley to prove us all wrong.
Oh yeah I’m not saying he can actually do those things. But in terms of profile of player I think it’s quite clear that Ahadme was a Jones signing. You’re never going to have a 100% hit rate but it’s just a shame the one big fail was our most expensive
I’m not disputing that he was a Jones signing as I have no idea but from what we have seen he doesn’t seem like a jones player. He is too slow to close down on a press, he hasn’t shown he can hold the ball up and he certainly doesn’t look like a goal scorer. Maybe his confidence is low so just not producing and perhaps he will come good but I can’t see it myself I think he will be gone in the Summer and if that fee is accurate then that’s a big number to write off as I can’t see us getting a fee and I suspect we will be paying off his contract
He’s a big target man that can press. Looking at Jones recent managerial career you can’t get any more “Nathan Jones player” than that. His Luton team had Morris and Adebayo up front and it was clear his original plan here was to build something similar. He even described Leaburn as his perfect type of striker for similar reasons. Ahadme is just not very good and we’ve been better playing differently without him
Yes, in theory he’s a big man that can win the flick ons and press. In reality he’s not been able to do either, not yet at least. He looked lost in those early games of the season, unable to read the game and remarkably fragile for a big man. Is it a coincidence that once Scott and Methvan left he couldn’t get on the pitch, with even Hylton and Mbick being preferred to him? Hope he scores the winner at Wembley to prove us all wrong.
Oh yeah I’m not saying he can actually do those things. But in terms of profile of player I think it’s quite clear that Ahadme was a Jones signing. You’re never going to have a 100% hit rate but it’s just a shame the one big fail was our most expensive
Extraordinary if Jones really wanted him . Most of us worked him out in about 10 minutes .
I’m not disputing that he was a Jones signing as I have no idea but from what we have seen he doesn’t seem like a jones player. He is too slow to close down on a press, he hasn’t shown he can hold the ball up and he certainly doesn’t look like a goal scorer. Maybe his confidence is low so just not producing and perhaps he will come good but I can’t see it myself I think he will be gone in the Summer and if that fee is accurate then that’s a big number to write off as I can’t see us getting a fee and I suspect we will be paying off his contract
He’s a big target man that can press. Looking at Jones recent managerial career you can’t get any more “Nathan Jones player” than that. His Luton team had Morris and Adebayo up front and it was clear his original plan here was to build something similar. He even described Leaburn as his perfect type of striker for similar reasons. Ahadme is just not very good and we’ve been better playing differently without him
Yes, in theory he’s a big man that can win the flick ons and press. In reality he’s not been able to do either, not yet at least. He looked lost in those early games of the season, unable to read the game and remarkably fragile for a big man. Is it a coincidence that once Scott and Methvan left he couldn’t get on the pitch, with even Hylton and Mbick being preferred to him? Hope he scores the winner at Wembley to prove us all wrong.
It's not so much coincidence, more not true. Ahadme's last start was against Crawley in December and he had not featured much for a couple of months prior to the Crawley game.
Scott left on 14th February and Methven 10th March.
Probably putting 2 and 2 together and getting 5, but the timescales point to it being an Andy Scott signing. Jones gave him a try, he was shit and got dropped and then Scott got the boot
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idle speculation but I’ve done and redone all the perms for 2nd and the playoff finishing places and getting fed up with that now
However I do think it’s very unlikely we paid £1m up front, it’s not as if this ownership have been throwing money around on players. More likely to be made up of various clauses based on the impact he has and perhaps if we win promotion.
We did in 2023/2024 bring in;
- Gillesphey, May, Taylor, Edmonds-Green, Edun, Ramsay for fees
- Walker, Ward, Isted, Jones, T, Watson, Coventry, Small, Wickham, Lua- Lua on free (Signing & Agent fees)
- Fiorini, C Campbell, Tedic, Ladapo, Bakinson, Camara, Abankwah, L Watson (loan fees)
Not sure £1.9m goes far with 23 players.
6/23 is still a very poor hit rate even if some of those 17 have also contributed (T Watson, Edun, REG) or in the case of Taylor still have the jury out.
The figure I heard was £830k for Adhadme and that he was very much a Jones signing. That maybe Scott and Methven disowning a deal they made but it does seem that Jones has had the final say since the summer and he played him a lot early on.
I doubt that all £830k was upfront. In any case, as Grapevine points out, any fee would show in the 2024/25 accounts not the FY accounts ending June 2024 where the £1.9m comes from.
Ahadme's last start was against Crawley in December and he had not featured much for a couple of months prior to the Crawley game.
Scott left on 14th February and Methven 10th March.