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Tipping for service.

seth plumseth plum
in Not Sports Related
I read that there are new rules around tipping coming in today.
I tip the barber, but in restaurants and such places the service charge may or not be on the bill, which makes me confused if that is supposed to be instead of a tip and if it can be refused.
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  • sillav nitramsillav nitram
    If tipping has come about because of people’s lack of earnings then I’m fine with that and am happy to do so.

    I also tip my Barber but don’t think he’s short of a bob or two, so I do wonder why I tip, maybe because he expects it?

    On the other hand, I do find it strange that we tip someone for simply doing their job, I don’t get tipped for doing mine, maybe I should?
  • ForeverAddicktedForeverAddickted
    sillav nitram said:
    If tipping has come about because of people’s lack of earnings then I’m fine with that and am happy to do so.

    I also tip my Barber but don’t think he’s short of a bob or two, so I do wonder why I tip, maybe because he expects it?

    On the other hand, I do find it strange that we tip someone for simply doing their job, I don’t get tipped for doing mine, maybe I should?
    Would that be considered a gift though? - Depending the type of job you do?

    I remember working for Sainsburys many years ago, and was asked to help a little old lady by taking her shopping out to her car, she tried to offer me £10, and I had to refuse... Wasnt allowed to take it.

    Even with my current job (I do office work), I have to do an online training course which covers Gifts / Bribery etc. imagine again if a Client offered me     £10 as a "tip" at the end of implementing a project I'd have to reject it, I'd probably reject it regardless, not just because its my job, but also just to cover my arse. 
  • ChippycafcChippycafc
    I always generally tip. If I have great service generously. Hate service charges being included, as I feel it be up to the customer to decide. 

    I was recently in cote brassiere. The people on the next table wanted the service charge removed from her bill as the service was very slow.

    It took 15 mins for it to be done as they had to fill a form in, in front of the manager. Not sure they will ho there again.

    Service charge is 10%.
  • GribboGribbo
    Always generally tip in a restaurant and my barber gets 4 quid on top of his £26. Went Miller & Carter in Sevenoaks on Sunday (blimey they've gone down hill,  as we walked in tbere were 2 blokes running out not paid their bill lol) and tipped the waitress £10 cash, as the service was so good. Tbh the food weren't bad either, just the decor needs a lot of attention 
  • SolidgoneSolidgone
    Chippycafc said:
    I always generally tip. If I have great service generously. Hate service charges being included, as I feel it be up to the customer to decide. 

    I was recently in cote brassiere. The people on the next table wanted the service charge removed from her bill as the service was very slow.

    It took 15 mins for it to be done as they had to fill a form in, in front of the manager. Not sure they will ho there again.

    Service charge is 10%.
    I was in my local Cote last weekend and they no longer add a service charge so that you can pay directly to the waiter his tip (cash).
    But I do wonder if you also enjoyed a meal whether a tip should go to the kitchen staff and not the person delivering the food?
  • LonelyNorthernAddickLonelyNorthernAddick
    swordfish said:
    Can you not ask for it to be taken off if included and you're dissatisfied? Never tried mind. I always do 10% rule of thumb unless the service is poor. I don't have a barber, and my postie can't read so gets nothing. He should pay me for delivering his misdelivered mail to the addresses on the envelopes. 
    You can ask it to be removed normally but I think people will often feel awkward asking for the service charge to be removed, but think the business sticking 10% or whatever on top of your bill as is a bit cheeky. 
  • ChunesChunes
    edited October 1
    I used to work in F&B and the tips were never split fairly. Glad this law is coming in. Understand it means service charges will 100% go to staff, too.
  • WheresmeticketWheresmeticket
    edited October 1
    I tip waiters but always check discreetly that they actually get it.  If not I don't.  I tip barbers a quid (on top of the £12 or £14 my haircut usually costs) so that they don't fuck me up next time I go in.
  • AlgarveaddickAlgarveaddick
    I always tip as long as service is good. We like Cote, but what Chippy has told us is outrageous. It would certainly put me off going back if it happened to me.  
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  • WheresmeticketWheresmeticket
    Chippycafc said:
    I always generally tip. If I have great service generously. Hate service charges being included, as I feel it be up to the customer to decide. 

    I was recently in cote brassiere. The people on the next table wanted the service charge removed from her bill as the service was very slow.

    It took 15 mins for it to be done as they had to fill a form in, in front of the manager. Not sure they will ho there again.

    Service charge is 10%.
    Thank-you, that image will stay with me all day.
  • LonelyNorthernAddickLonelyNorthernAddick
    My general rules - Don't tip the barber, tip in restaurants or any sit down meal generally speaking, wouldn't tip for like a coffee unless service was really good.
  • Pelling1993Pelling1993
    I always tip my barber to the nearest £5. Since he's made my hair & beard £30 flat he no longer gets a tip! 
  • Hal1xHal1x
    edited October 1
    LonelyNorthernAddick said:
    My general rules - Don't tip the barber, tip in restaurants or any sit down meal generally speaking, wouldn't tip for like a coffee unless service was really good.
    Tightarse! - wonder why you are a lonely addick? >:)
  • seth plumseth plum
    Apparently in the restaurant business good food doesn’t compensate for bad service, but good service can compensate for bad food.
    There is however a legendary Chinese restaurant people go to because the staff are curt and authoritarian which they see as part of the experience.
  • Mendonca In AsdasMendonca In Asdas
    Anyone on here been to the States recently, i hear its the norm to tip 20% over there, sons are going there soon.
  • seth plumseth plum
    On the BBC website it said 80% of tips these days are paid by card. Seemingly this has made it easier for unscrupulous bosses to divert the tips elsewhere.
    The also say lower paid workers could benefit by £200 million due to the change brought in today.
  • O-Randy-HuntO-Randy-Hunt
    I have builders that tip me £5 to £10. Then I have millionaires that live in gated property's in Chelsea and Knightsbridge that wait for me to give them their 20 pence change.

    We were in cafe mambo ibiza a few weeks ago and the service charge that went to the waiter in cash was €160 but tbf it was only about €15 each and he done a good job for the 11 of us.
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  • shine166shine166
    edited October 1
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Anyone on here been to the States recently, i hear its the norm to tip 20% over there, sons are going there soon.
    That's not recent, they have always had a tipping culture, infact of you don't tip every single purchase in a bar you may find yourself waiting longer than other to get a drink. 

    The America culture is purely down to being underpaid but some how it's completely normal. 
  • LargeAddickLargeAddick
    Tip in restaurants but that’s about it. Don’t think Service Charge should automatically be added to the bill, up to the customer to tip if they have received good service.
  • SporadicAddickSporadicAddick
    Mendonca In Asdas said:
    Anyone on here been to the States recently, i hear its the norm to tip 20% over there, sons are going there soon.
    Assume paying by card rather than cash, you will be asked what level of tip you want to give, typically with pre-selected options of 20%, 25% and 30%. Anything less than 20% is frowned upon (historically 18% was the level).

    Tips are expected / the standard for all transactions where you have been served, whether a full three course meal or a cup of coffee in Starbucks.

    Cost of everything in major cities (NYC, Miami etc) is high before service kicks in. Dining out is now incredibly expensive. Expect USD 35 for a breakfast, and multiples of that for anything else.  
  • HuskarisHuskaris
    In the USA the minimum wage for anyone who earns $30 or more in tips a month is.... $2.13 an hour. 
  • CroydonCroydon
    I'll always tip in a restaurant, barbers, taxi etc, but what's mental is when you order a coffee to takeaway and the card machine asks if you want to add service. Some pubs doing it when you order a pint at the bar as well. 
  • bobmunrobobmunro
    edited October 1
    seth plum said:
    Apparently in the restaurant business good food doesn’t compensate for bad service, but good service can compensate for bad food.
    There is however a legendary Chinese restaurant people go to because the staff are curt and authoritarian which they see as part of the experience.
    Won Kei in Wardour Street? They are not as aggressive now, back in the day it was hilarious.

    Unless the food and service was terrible, I always tip in a restaurant - 10-15%. I much prefer the money going into a central pot to be shared out to all staff (not owners) and not just to the waiter who, however pleasant, is just delivering a product that has gone through a convoluted supply chain - cleaners, kitchen staff, chefs, washer uppers, buyers of the produce, bar staff and so on. The most important aspect for a restaurant is the food - not how it was ordered or placed on your table!

    Barber gets a tip as well, and I'll always tip Black Cab drivers.

  • RizzoRizzo
    bobmunro said:


    Barber gets a tip as well, and I'll always tip Black Cab drivers.

    Why? What is it about those two professions that society deems them to be worthy of tips for performing the task that you are paying them to perform?
  • bobmunrobobmunro
    Rizzo said:
    bobmunro said:


    Barber gets a tip as well, and I'll always tip Black Cab drivers.

    Why? What is it about those two professions that society deems them to be worthy of tips for performing the task that you are paying them to perform?

    Barber because it is a very personal service, and Black Cabs because for me they are a symbol of London and I f*cking hate Uber.

    Not sure it's society deeming anything. If others don't tip them then absolutely fine - that is their choice.
  • king addickking addick
    Wheresmeticket said:
    I tip waiters but always check discreetly that they actually get it.  If not I don't.  I tip barbers a quid (on top of the £12 or £14 my haircut usually costs) so that they don't fuck me up next time I go in.
    Blimey...your barber don't take no shit then... :smiley:
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