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Infinite Monkey Theorem

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  • If the monkeys have a time constraint, then they don't have infinite time. I'm no boffin but I understand infinity 
    What if time is infinite ?
  • Poor old Robin Ince, I think his career is over now. I reckon the Cox fella will still be able to scrape out a living though.
  • Taking a theory that requires unconstrained infinity, and then pointing out it can’t happen in our constrained universe, hardly requires a press release. 
    Indeed but it does dispel this age old idiom 
  • Chizz said:
    Taking a theory that requires unconstrained infinity, and then pointing out it can’t happen in our constrained universe, hardly requires a press release. 
    Indeed but it does dispel this age old idiom 
    No it doesn't. Because the theorem relies on there being an infinite number of monkeys. 
    Which is reliant upon time being infinite which it probably isn’t.
  • Chizz said:
    Taking a theory that requires unconstrained infinity, and then pointing out it can’t happen in our constrained universe, hardly requires a press release. 
    Indeed but it does dispel this age old idiom 
    No it doesn't. Because the theorem relies on there being an infinite number of monkeys. 
    Which is reliant upon time being infinite which it probably isn’t.
    An infinite number of monkeys would type the works of Shakespeare in a finite length of time
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  • edited November 2
    Presumably those two Aussie mathematicians were paid for that study.  Easy work if you can get it.

    "if you ignore the 'infinite' bit  of that old saying, it's probably not true.  Any questions?

    What's that?  The whole point of the thing is that it's about the nature of infinity?  Ah well, never mind, fancy paying us for a year long study on whether all the world is in fact a stage?"
  • This is no disrespect to you Shooters, but that might be the stupidest thing I have ever read published by actual "academics"
  • The other day the headline in the Star was that Ghosts are dying out.
  • Huskaris said:
    This is no disrespect to you Shooters, but that might be the stupidest thing I have ever read published by actual "academics"
    I don't know about stupidest, but on face value, it looks like a contender for the most pointless. You don't need to know the lifespan of the universe to understand that the notion of uncovering a Simian Shakespeare is, and can only be, entirely hypothetical. We can't even look after the monkeys we have got; of the 488 species of monkey over half, 265, currently appear on the IUCN's red list. The whole idea of corralling a large number, let alone an infinite number, into a typing pool is ridiculous (perhaps that is actually the power of the theorem). 

    Having said that, I presume that the exercise was a vehicle for honing and developing mathematical skills and that there was learning beyond the stuff that would have grabbed the headline writers' attention.
  • Why am I not surprised this ‘study’ was in Sydney. 

    Aussies will do anything apart from actual work.
  • Personally, I have a lot more time for this story: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teens-come-up-with-trigonometry-proof-for-pythagorean-theorem-60-minutes-transcript/.

    The two students involved are seriously impressive.
  • Monkeys will never type the complete works of Shakespeare but the key word is infinite so it is possible although dead monkeys will constantly need replacing and even then the time requirement will outlast us. 
  • Chizz said:
    Taking a theory that requires unconstrained infinity, and then pointing out it can’t happen in our constrained universe, hardly requires a press release. 
    Indeed but it does dispel this age old idiom 
    No it doesn't. Because the theorem relies on there being an infinite number of monkeys. 
    Which is reliant upon time being infinite which it probably isn’t.

    Our knowledge of the universe is limited and much of that is due to the constraints of our brains.

    We share 99% of our DNA with chimpanzees, yet chimps are unaware of written languages, the industrial revolution or the atomic age. Imagine what we might achieve if we were just a further 1% evolved. In that scenario, what we consider the height of human evolution today might seem as primitive as chimps using sticks to eat termites.

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  • If the monkeys have a time constraint, then they don't have infinite time. I'm no boffin but I understand infinity 
    And yet as a human you cannot image something that never ends..

  • edited November 2
    If the monkeys have a time constraint, then they don't have infinite time. I'm no boffin but I understand infinity 
    I thought I understood infinity also until I came across the idea that the infinite set of integers is smaller than the infinite set of real numbers.
  • The fact people cant agree what infinite means, you can see why almost every discussion can turn into a row !
  • Personally, I have a lot more time for this story: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teens-come-up-with-trigonometry-proof-for-pythagorean-theorem-60-minutes-transcript/.

    The two students involved are seriously impressive.
    Seriously impressive is an understatement.

    Except for, like, their use of, like, like. 
  • Chizz said:
    Chizz said:
    Taking a theory that requires unconstrained infinity, and then pointing out it can’t happen in our constrained universe, hardly requires a press release. 
    Indeed but it does dispel this age old idiom 
    No it doesn't. Because the theorem relies on there being an infinite number of monkeys. 
    Which is reliant upon time being infinite which it probably isn’t.
    An infinite number of monkeys would type the works of Shakespeare in a finite length of time
    They'd never be able to source that many typewriters though.
  • Personally, I have a lot more time for this story: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/teens-come-up-with-trigonometry-proof-for-pythagorean-theorem-60-minutes-transcript/.

    The two students involved are seriously impressive.

    Very impressive, although it should be called the Baudhayan Theorem!



  • This is so cruel. We shouldn’t be doing this to monkeys. 
    Totally agree. I thought all this cruelty had stopped once they were banned from working in those piano delivery firms. 
  • Infinite monkey theorem disproved!

    > finite monkeys
    > finite time
  • In a very real way, a primate has already written the works of Shakespeare
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