Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
I thought the system was the capitalist bastards usually sell something for fifty quid or so, but on Black Friday they sell it for fifty quid or so, but say the fifty quid is a price reduction from a hundred quid.
Were this ever to happen, other than in your head, it would be against the law.
In the UK, The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 governs issues related to misleading price claims, including falsely representing a price as a reduction against a normal price.
Regulation 5 prohibits misleading actions that deceive consumers, including false claims about pricing or discounts. A retailer cannot claim a price is a reduction against a "normal" price unless that price was genuinely available to consumers for a reasonable period. Any "was/now" pricing must reflect an accurate previous price. The "was" price should have been actively charged for a significant and recent period before the discount. Misleading price claims are illegal if they cause the consumer to make a transactional decision they otherwise wouldn’t have made. Breaches can result in criminal penalties (fines or imprisonment) or civil enforcement, such as orders to cease misleading practices.
Retailers must ensure transparency and accuracy to avoid misleading consumers about discounts and sales.
Other than in my head?
Here is a photograph I have just taken from this latest Which? magazine. So It is not only in my head, but in the heads of those who write the magazine, and it also happens in reality.
They need to get their heads checked then as it took me about 20 seconds to prove that Boots did in fact sell the hair dryer for £49.99 within the last 12 months. Within the last two in fact.
I thought the system was the capitalist bastards usually sell something for fifty quid or so, but on Black Friday they sell it for fifty quid or so, but say the fifty quid is a price reduction from a hundred quid.
Were this ever to happen, other than in your head, it would be against the law.
In the UK, The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 governs issues related to misleading price claims, including falsely representing a price as a reduction against a normal price.
Regulation 5 prohibits misleading actions that deceive consumers, including false claims about pricing or discounts. A retailer cannot claim a price is a reduction against a "normal" price unless that price was genuinely available to consumers for a reasonable period. Any "was/now" pricing must reflect an accurate previous price. The "was" price should have been actively charged for a significant and recent period before the discount. Misleading price claims are illegal if they cause the consumer to make a transactional decision they otherwise wouldn’t have made. Breaches can result in criminal penalties (fines or imprisonment) or civil enforcement, such as orders to cease misleading practices.
Retailers must ensure transparency and accuracy to avoid misleading consumers about discounts and sales.
Other than in my head?
Here is a photograph I have just taken from this latest Which? magazine. So It is not only in my head, but in the heads of those who write the magazine, and it also happens in reality.
They need to get their heads checked then as it took me about 20 seconds to prove that Boots did in fact sell the hair dryer for £49.99 within the last 12 months. Within the last two in fact.
I believe the story about Allders in Hull written above explains this. However I do think Which? should have been more careful about the Boots story. Luckily Which invite corrections and disputes.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
I reluctantly had to do the early bird sale bargains at Allder's, had to get there at 8.00 on Boxing day to hand out tickets entitling the first in the queue to get their three piece suite for a tenner or whatever. Three or four of the items had genuine massive savings on TVs/Fridges/Beds etc. the rest was bulked out with mildly discounted stuff/ bought in crap/ discontinued lines/ and ex-display or unused returned items. Some people had been in the queue for days over christmas but at least they could furnish their house on the cheap. One year though the first person bought the tenner telly, the second person also wanted the tenner telly so missed out, but instead of opting for the £10 Sofa or Video recorder bought a £1 pillow saving £5.99, good value for 24 hours spent queuing on the pavement in December, in the rain outside a shop in beautiful balmy Eltham.
I thought the system was the capitalist bastards usually sell something for fifty quid or so, but on Black Friday they sell it for fifty quid or so, but say the fifty quid is a price reduction from a hundred quid.
Were this ever to happen, other than in your head, it would be against the law.
In the UK, The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 governs issues related to misleading price claims, including falsely representing a price as a reduction against a normal price.
Regulation 5 prohibits misleading actions that deceive consumers, including false claims about pricing or discounts. A retailer cannot claim a price is a reduction against a "normal" price unless that price was genuinely available to consumers for a reasonable period. Any "was/now" pricing must reflect an accurate previous price. The "was" price should have been actively charged for a significant and recent period before the discount. Misleading price claims are illegal if they cause the consumer to make a transactional decision they otherwise wouldn’t have made. Breaches can result in criminal penalties (fines or imprisonment) or civil enforcement, such as orders to cease misleading practices.
Retailers must ensure transparency and accuracy to avoid misleading consumers about discounts and sales.
Other than in my head?
Here is a photograph I have just taken from this latest Which? magazine. So It is not only in my head, but in the heads of those who write the magazine, and it also happens in reality.
On this occasion it so happens you're both right tbh.
Yes, there are laws in place to prevent retailers from providing misleading price indications. In theory, yes, the goods should have been at the higher price for a reasonable period, reasonably recently. Traditionally, this period of price establishment was for a 28 day period within the preceeding 6 months. And if not in that branch, then it was to be specified somewhere in which one. Hence retailers would sell them at some obscure, out of way branch in the run up to the January or Easter sales. Knowing full well no one was buying carpet two weeks before the January sale started anyway but it was an opportunity to whack prices up to discount against.
But Seth is also correct, in that not everyone plays by the rules and some retailers do take the mickey. Including some, not all, big boys who are fully aware just how poorly funded individual local authority regulators are and how little appetite there is for taking them on through the courts.
That's just the reality crashing against the theoretical situation unfortunately.
Very happy with Black Friday, just bought myself an Alaska Cruise. I've no idea if I saved any money, but the thought that it might go up in price later was enough to make me commit (I probably would have at some point anyway). Maybe I saved a few quid on the deal, maybe I didn't, I'm still very happy. It was my choice, nobody forced me.
Very happy with Black Friday, just bought myself an Alaska Cruise. I've no idea if I saved any money, but the thought that it might go up in price later was enough to make me commit (I probably would have at some point anyway). Maybe I saved a few quid on the deal, maybe I didn't, I'm still very happy. It was my choice, nobody forced me.
Like @Stig if we want/need something we buy/save/go without depending on our situation at the time. No email/advert/flyer has made us feel the need to go and buy something.
Our dogs supplier “25% of all their scoff” our freezers are full after our delivery on Tuesday this week, will the discount carry over until we reorder?
Of course not, have we lost money? No we haven’t, we were never going to spend it.
It’s a bit like energy companies lowering their price in the summer, if I’m not using it, it could be free I’m still not using it.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
Fair enough. It must be awful though not to respect anyone else that you buy anything from.
If you consider calling capitalists ‘bastards’ disrespectful fair enough. I don’t want to be a pleb knowing my place and being deferential towards them. That’s probably just me.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
Fair enough. It must be awful though not to respect anyone else that you buy anything from.
If you consider calling capitalists ‘bastards’ disrespectful fair enough. I don’t want to be a pleb knowing my place and being deferential towards them. That’s probably just me.
How do you get a coat on over that enormous chip on your shoulder?
It’s an American thing but no different to the British Boxing Day Sales. The principle is to have a sale when a lot of people are not at work. Because Thanksgiving is always on a Thursday, Black Friday morphed from this in the States as a lot of people take the Friday off. It has been like that for a while. It seems strange to me that the UK now have a Black Friday when it’s just a random Friday at the end of November when everyone is at work. Copycat or Capitalism at its worst I suppose.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
Fair enough. It must be awful though not to respect anyone else that you buy anything from.
If you consider calling capitalists ‘bastards’ disrespectful fair enough. I don’t want to be a pleb knowing my place and being deferential towards them. That’s probably just me.
How do you put a coat on with that enormous chip on your shoulder?
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
I've had some good deals in the past on B F, e.g. Ninja air fryer at 60% 'usual' cost, NOW tv subs, books, power drills .. nothing much has caught my eye this year though except some small Lego car kits at a good price and a barbie doll, nice little gifts for my grand offspring and a couple for charity
I held off buying a new hi-fi amplifier because I thought that maybe there might be bargain. There wasn’t much off the amps I was considering. It was as I suspected, a marketing opportunity for companies
I held off buying a new hi-fi amplifier because I thought that maybe there might be bargain. There wasn’t much off the amps I was considering. It was as I suspected, a marketing opportunity for companies
Did the hi-fi amplifier companies advertise a bargain that was misleading?
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
As someone who works on the commercial/finance side of business, I worked until September for a direct to consumer business and believe me, when you buy a product of theirs on black Friday on Amazon, they used it as a marketing tool to acquire new customers, we made no money on the sales at all with the discounts we had to offer to be part of the scheme (15%). Not that we made any money on US Amazon anyway. 56% of our revenue on the platform went back to Bezos.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
Not Black Friday but sales. A few years ago I was buying some house tat from IKEA the day after their sale finished. I said to the bloke from IKEA who was helping me load the car that I must have missed some better prices by shopping the day after the sale. He said no, the sale stuff is pretty much all stuff dragged in to sell during the sale and after the sale they reduce the prices to get rid of it.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
Which? Is a not for profit consumer magazine and organisation. It does not carry advertising either. It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
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It is not a capitalist bastard organisation that is why I respect it.
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However I do think Which? should have been more careful about the Boots story. Luckily Which invite corrections and disputes.
Yes, there are laws in place to prevent retailers from providing misleading price indications. In theory, yes, the goods should have been at the higher price for a reasonable period, reasonably recently. Traditionally, this period of price establishment was for a 28 day period within the preceeding 6 months. And if not in that branch, then it was to be specified somewhere in which one. Hence retailers would sell them at some obscure, out of way branch in the run up to the January or Easter sales. Knowing full well no one was buying carpet two weeks before the January sale started anyway but it was an opportunity to whack prices up to discount against.
But Seth is also correct, in that not everyone plays by the rules and some retailers do take the mickey. Including some, not all, big boys who are fully aware just how poorly funded individual local authority regulators are and how little appetite there is for taking them on through the courts.
That's just the reality crashing against the theoretical situation unfortunately.
No email/advert/flyer has made us feel the need to go and buy something.
That’s probably just me.
I hated black Friday.
You were lucky to be born here.
Is there a huge difference?