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Paul Elliott (The other one) has taken the club to court

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  • Can you imagine though if the scenario were accurate I.e. you did put £500k in and almost immediately it’s wiped out and you have nothing to show for it. 

    That would be mad  

    You’d expect he would have fallen out with Farnell and co if that scenario was how it played out. 
  • Can you imagine though if the scenario were accurate I.e. you did put £500k in and almost immediately it’s wiped out and you have nothing to show for it. 

    That would be mad  

    You’d expect he would have fallen out with Farnell and co if that scenario was how it played out. 
    Mate there is absolutely no scenario where anyone with £500k to invest into a business ( bar a big lottery winner the day after the cheque clears ) does so without following due diligence. That just isn’t how it works 
  • AndyG said:
    Can you imagine though if the scenario were accurate I.e. you did put £500k in and almost immediately it’s wiped out and you have nothing to show for it. 

    That would be mad  

    You’d expect he would have fallen out with Farnell and co if that scenario was how it played out. 
    Mate there is absolutely no scenario where anyone with £500k to invest into a business ( bar a big lottery winner the day after the cheque clears ) does so without following due diligence. That just isn’t how it works 
    Of course. I’m just saying if it were in some other universe true how ridiculous that would be. 

    You would need to be a mug punter / investor of the highest degree !

    Regarding due diligence that’s why of course it makes no real sense for anyone to invest unless they are a fan or in our case such a large consortium (who are taking a punt) the downside is relatively minor. 
  • edited December 7
    AndyG said:
    Absolutely nobody pumps £500k into a business without the correct audit trail being in place 😂 😂 😂 
    if this sum was put into the club it should take all of 5 minutes to reconcile it. This crowd are just beyond comprehension! This is where I think we owe TS a massive thank you as without doubt he saved us from this crowd and I doubt we would still be here bemoaning our performances if he didn’t step in
    Unless you're Dennis Wise ......

    https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/10733510.former-southampton-midfielder-dennis-wise-wins-court-case/
  • AndyG said:
    Absolutely nobody pumps £500k into a business without the correct audit trail being in place 😂 😂 😂 
    if this sum was put into the club it should take all of 5 minutes to reconcile it. This crowd are just beyond comprehension! This is where I think we owe TS a massive thank you as without doubt he saved us from this crowd and I doubt we would still be here bemoaning our performances if he didn’t step in
    My understanding is he dotted the i's and crossed the t's with the takeover.
    A shame it all went sideways after.
  • Hal1x said:
    LenGlover said:
    Strange to be taking this action 4.5 years after the event isn’t it 
    Speculative punt in my opinion.

    He probably has 6 years, given the statute of limitations, to recover any debt if it legally exists and hopes, given the change (s) in ownership, those with the knowledge to tell him to f*** off have disappeared and that the new regime might cough up for a quiet life.
    Doubtful I dont think our American owners are such soft touches.
    I agree with you that the present owners are unlikely to be a soft touch but the likes of Elliott, Farnell, Southall have such hubris that they believe they can intimidate anybody.

    I was just responding to @Addicktion_to_red's post
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  • LenGlover said:
    Strange to be taking this action 4.5 years after the event isn’t it 
    Speculative punt in my opinion.

    He probably has 6 years, given the statute of limitations, to recover any debt if it legally exists and hopes, given the change (s) in ownership, those with the knowledge to tell him to f*** off have disappeared and that the new regime might cough up for a quiet life.
    Americans love a bit of legal shenanigans, I expect them to say bring it on. 🫤
  • edited December 7
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  • I remember the live stream from court with the fan in his boxers eating cheeto's. 😁
    There was a rumour he posts on here!
  • I remember the live stream from court with the fan in his boxers eating cheeto's. 😁
    There was a rumour he posts on here!
     Not a rumour 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    I remember the live stream from court with the fan in his boxers eating cheeto's. 😁
    There was a rumour he posts on here!
     Not a rumour 
    I was being nice to the individual involved! 🤣
  • BigDiddy said:
    Offer him Danny Hylton as a full and final - he is worth what that twunt put into the club.

    Problem solved 
    What about the other £499,999.00 he is claiming for?
  • Wonder if our old mate Chris Farnell will be representing him? 
    Not representing him I am sure, but I am equally sure its his idea. 
    Where on Earth do you think someone as reputable as Chris Farnell - "who has represented former world heavyweight champion Tyson Fury and acted on behalf of footballer Cristiano Ronaldo" - would get the idea that it's worth going to court over a claim over the interpretation of a £500,000 payment/loan?  

    He hasn't been involved in anything like that for ... *checks notes* - more than a month. 

    https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/sports-law-firm-fails-to-block-advertisement-of-winding-up-petition/5121330.article 
  • Isn't the key issue one that was brought up on the last court case? If I remember correctly, the Judge asked if CAFC was the only asset of East Street Investments. Elliot's barrister said it wasn't, which is why the proceedings were taken out against ESI in the first place. A magnificent piece of legal legerdemain was performed by the CAFC team, (including the marvellous Lauren Creamer) by shuffling papers, and staying shtum. Because of this, it lead to Sandgaard purchasing Charlton Athletic Holdings (NOT ESI) for £1.

    As far as I can see, Mr. Elliot can pursue his case against ESI (good luck with that!) or, at best, Thomas Sandgaard.
  • Bravo for the first - as far as I am aware - use of legerdemain on Charlton Life, so far. 
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  • aliwibble said:
    Oh FFS. Please tell me I don't need to revive the bitesize?
    Anyway, for those struggling to remember Paul Ellliotttt, this picture (slightly modified by @i_b_b_o_r_g) may help
    cuddles image

    Which one is Elliott 
    He's the dumb animal who throws his shit at everyone. Also pictured, a lovely little monkey. 
  • Chizz said:
    Bravo for the first - as far as I am aware - use of legerdemain on Charlton Life, so far. 
    Is that posh for "sleight of hand"?
  • Chizz said:
    Wonder if our old mate Chris Farnell will be representing him? 
    Not representing him I am sure, but I am equally sure its his idea. 
    Where on Earth do you think someone as reputable as Chris Farnell - "who has represented former world heavyweight champion Tyson Fury and acted on behalf of footballer Cristiano Ronaldo" - would get the idea that it's worth going to court over a claim over the interpretation of a £500,000 payment/loan?  

    He hasn't been involved in anything like that for ... *checks notes* - more than a month. 

    https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/sports-law-firm-fails-to-block-advertisement-of-winding-up-petition/5121330.article 
    Imagine thinking you've reached an agreement on something worth £500k but it's never written down? Then imagine your business is involved in the legal sector ......... the mind boggles!!!

    In practice there's a reason these types of people don't have this stuff written down into anything resembling a clear and straightforward legal agreement. It's all about smoke and mirrors.
  • It seems that there should be a good piece of advice for anyone considering doing business with Farnell: avoid getting involved in a deal with him, because you'd end up being sued. Unsuccessfully. 
  • Just a thought…could this get Russell Slade the “legend” status at Charlton that his management never did.

    The man who screwed Farnell!!  

    See Russell, all you needed to win us over was…patience!!!  🤔😂😂😂
  • edited December 9
    Good summary by the judge:  ‘no arguable defence’ and ‘no rational prospect of success’. He added: 'It is an example of a case where a “cloud of objections” has been raised to “obfuscate the real issues”

    Sounds like that might be a summary of Farnell's whole career.
  • I really wonder that Farnell and Slater didn’t start their own law firm.
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