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Methven chucks Nathan Jones under the bus

There is a video on the other site in which Methven says that Alfie May was only sold because Nathan Jones wanted to change the style of play and Charlton supporters aren’t apparently very happy about it ( no shit Sherlock ) 
I know that it’s difficult to take a counter view to the manager but I hope Scott, at least, questioned whether it would be possible to replace the League 1’s leading scorer ? 
We go round in circles on this but what on earth does Andy Scott do as technical director ?

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  • There is a video on the other site in which Methven says that Alfie May was only sold because Nathan Jones wanted to change the style of play and Charlton supporters aren’t apparently very happy about it ( no shit Sherlock ) 
    I know that it’s difficult to take a counter view to the manager but I hope Scott, at least, questioned whether it would be possible to replace the League 1’s leading scorer ? 
    We go round in circles on this but what on earth does Andy Scott do as technical director ?

    I think this is from about two months ago and been seen.
    However, Methven has used this as another deflection tactic from his two mates.
    I said the other day and I will again, things like this are  maybe why the Jamaican does not get a look in.
  • The video in question is a few months old.
  • Many months old, and actually says that the manager ‘wanted to deploy the funds elsewhere in the Team’ rather than to change the style
  • @alburyaddick, can you check your inbox
  • Many months old, and actually says that the manager ‘wanted to deploy the funds elsewhere in the Team’ rather than to change the style
    Fails to mention that they could have given him the funds without selling May.
  • Many months old, and actually says that the manager ‘wanted to deploy the funds elsewhere in the Team’ rather than to change the style
    Fails to mention that they could have given him the funds without selling May.
    They have tried to do things on the cheap, look where it has got them.
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  • JamesSeed said:
    There is a video on the other site in which Methven says that Alfie May was only sold because Nathan Jones wanted to change the style of play and Charlton supporters aren’t apparently very happy about it ( no shit Sherlock ) 
    I know that it’s difficult to take a counter view to the manager but I hope Scott, at least, questioned whether it would be possible to replace the League 1’s leading scorer ? 
    We go round in circles on this but what on earth does Andy Scott do as technical director ?

    I think this is from about two months ago and been seen.
    However, Methven has used this as another deflection tactic from his two mates.
    I said the other day and I will again, things like this are  maybe why the Jamaican does not get a look in.
    Who is ‘the Jamaican’?
    Dixon
  • edited December 10
    There is a video on the other site in which Methven says that Alfie May was only sold because Nathan Jones wanted to change the style of play and Charlton supporters aren’t apparently very happy about it ( no shit Sherlock ) 
    I know that it’s difficult to take a counter view to the manager but I hope Scott, at least, questioned whether it would be possible to replace the League 1’s leading scorer ? 
    We go round in circles on this but what on earth does Andy Scott do as technical director ?

    I think this is from about two months ago and been seen.
    However, Methven has used this as another deflection tactic from his two mates.
    I said the other day and I will again, things like this are  maybe why the Jamaican does not get a look in.
    This guy has the Executive Integrity of a cockroach. Is he going to stand accountable for anything? CEO 101 is you own it. If you don’t why should anyone else? The word he is looking for is “we”. Does it look like these people are working from the same script? Does the squad recruitment look like people are working from the same script? That is on the CEO and the MD specifically appointed to oversee football affairs in June.

    Feeble, feeble stuff.
    I've worked for many a CEO in multi nationals and SMEs where the buck always stops elsewhere, nature of the beast in many cases and how they got there! Methven is little different.
  • edited December 10
    Many months old, and actually says that the manager ‘wanted to deploy the funds elsewhere in the Team’ rather than to change the style
    Fails to mention that they could have given him the funds without selling May.
    Jones patently didn’t think May suited his preferred style of play.
    He was right (I doubt that May would make much of a difference in this team) but the problem is the players acquired to effect Jones’s “style” - principally Ahadme and his midfield trio - aren’t cutting the mustard.
    Of course the Board is ultimately responsible for everything but they gave Jones more autonomy than any recent manager (on most occasions in fact they were “First steam Coach”) of CAFC.
    We’ll gauge in the January window whether the Board retains confidence in Jones and whether the shareholders retain confidence in the Board.
    I hope at least the latter holds because if these owners lose interest we’re potentially back in the real shit of being “in play” for real shysters.
    Sorry can’t agree. Is this is how you would manage? Either you operate as a SMT or you don’t!

    Where is the autonomy without the funding? Where is the funding beyond the May sale?

    The issue isn’t about 1 player. It is about a squad delivering the worst League position in our history! Scott brought in 9 players in January ousting Blackett-Taylor and Dobson before Jones was in the building. Is Jones accountable for them too? What you don’t think Jones picks Dobson over Coventry & Taylor every day of the week and twice on Sunday? 

    How come after months of preparation the final 8 weeks of thé window saw the addition of only A.Campbell (on loan where Luton is carrying the bulk of his salary) and Dixon, a development prospect from Jamaica. IIRC Potts, Hylton ( both veterans on short term contracts) Reid were all signed after the window shut. We didn’t even get to keep Bishop.

    Could be it after the May funds the coffers were empty?

    Ironically if you look at May’s participation at Birmingham it is almost exactly how Jones would have used him - as an impact player. Jones loves his impact players. Not sure Alfie would have been too pleased. Not sure he is ecstatic now but he has better players to work with and a rather nice pay cheque to compensate.

    Does Jones have questions to answer? Of course but this sort of corporate politics speaks to a dysfunctional executive very much contributing to what we are seeing today.

    This executive has delivered a business plan for sanction or information in;
    - December 2022 to terminate Garner recruit Holden
    - January 2023 to bring in 5 loan players who I’m not sure still participate in the EFL
    - July 2023 to bring in 12 additions
    - September 2023 to terminate Holden and recruit Appleton
    - January 2024 to bring in 9 new additions
    - February 2024 to terminate Appleton and recruit Jones
    - July 2024 to bring in 11 new additions

    How’s it going? What it’s all on the last guy in? Don’t think so.
    Executive Summary:

    This football club is an omnishambles of a clusterfcuk.

    It's a miracle we even get 11 people out on the pitch in Charlton shirts in time for kick off.
  • OK, sorry my fault - I didnt realise it was old - humble apologies !! 
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  • edited December 10
     " Smilin' faces sometimes tell lies ( back stabbers)

       They smilin' in you face 

       I don't need low down dirty barstewards ( back stabbers) "

    The O'Jays seem to have come across CM ....

    Time to wipe that smile off your face, Charlie. B)


  • Yet another mob in charge of Charlton that couldn't run a bath.

    Anyone coming out of this summer, after a couple of "on paper" good signings but the departure of "The Golden Boot" and also a player who sweated blood for us in a terrible, terrible team,  thinking it would be otherwise than this shambles, well I don't know!!!
  • Trivial story but in my view a telling one. I bought a programme last Tuesday. It was £3.50 as advertised on a piece of cardboard. Recent programmes have been £4, following a mid-season increase.

    I commented to the seller that it had changed. Yes, they said, but it was going to be £4 and that’s what’s printed on it. But someone decided this afternoon to change the price back to £3.50.

    The price is neither here nor there, but you do wonder what kind of process is going on internally that they are changing it by 50p on the day of the game. It would make no conceivable difference to sales. It just says to me that someone is making arbitrary and pointless decisions because they can, without a clue what they are doing.

    As for the Kevin Nolan half-time applause, WTF?
    Welcome to Pantomime season again in SE7 ! 
  • Trivial story but in my view a telling one. I bought a programme last Tuesday. It was £3.50 as advertised on a piece of cardboard. Recent programmes have been £4, following a mid-season increase.

    I commented to the seller that it had changed. Yes, they said, but it was going to be £4 and that’s what’s printed on it. But someone decided this afternoon to change the price back to £3.50.

    The price is neither here nor there, but you do wonder what kind of process is going on internally that they are changing it by 50p on the day of the game. It would make no conceivable difference to sales. It just says to me that someone is making arbitrary and pointless decisions because they can, without a clue what they are doing.

    As for the Kevin Nolan half-time applause, WTF?
    Welcome to Pantomime season again in SE7 ! 
    It's behind us!

    We bloody wish ...
  • Many months old, and actually says that the manager ‘wanted to deploy the funds elsewhere in the Team’ rather than to change the style
    Fails to mention that they could have given him the funds without selling May.
    Jones patently didn’t think May suited his preferred style of play.
    He was right (I doubt that May would make much of a difference in this team) but the problem is the players acquired to effect Jones’s “style” - principally Ahadme and his midfield trio - aren’t cutting the mustard.
    Of course the Board is ultimately responsible for everything but they gave Jones more autonomy than any recent manager (on most occasions in fact they were “First steam Coach”) of CAFC.
    We’ll gauge in the January window whether the Board retains confidence in Jones and whether the shareholders retain confidence in the Board.
    I hope at least the latter holds because if these owners lose interest we’re potentially back in the real shit of being “in play” for real shysters.
    Sorry can’t agree. Is this is how you would manage? Either you operate as a SMT or you don’t!

    Where is the autonomy without the funding? Where is the funding beyond the May sale?

    The issue isn’t about 1 player. It is about a squad delivering the worst League position in our history! Scott brought in 9 players in January ousting Blackett-Taylor and Dobson before Jones was in the building. Is Jones accountable for them too? What you don’t think Jones picks Dobson over Coventry & Taylor every day of the week and twice on Sunday? 

    How come after months of preparation the final 8 weeks of thé window saw the addition of only A.Campbell (on loan where Luton is carrying the bulk of his salary) and Dixon, a development prospect from Jamaica. IIRC Potts, Hylton ( both veterans on short term contracts) Reid were all signed after the window shut. We didn’t even get to keep Bishop.

    Could be it after the May funds the coffers were empty?

    Ironically if you look at May’s participation at Birmingham it is almost exactly how Jones would have used him - as an impact player. Jones loves his impact players. Not sure Alfie would have been too pleased. Not sure he is ecstatic now but he has better players to work with and a rather nice pay cheque to compensate.

    Does Jones have questions to answer? Of course but this sort of corporate politics speaks to a dysfunctional executive very much contributing to what we are seeing today.

    This executive has delivered a business plan for sanction or information in;
    - December 2022 to terminate Garner recruit Holden
    - January 2023 to bring in 5 loan players who I’m not sure still participate in the EFL
    - July 2023 to bring in 12 additions
    - September 2023 to terminate Holden and recruit Appleton
    - January 2024 to bring in 9 new additions
    - February 2024 to terminate Appleton and recruit Jones
    - July 2024 to bring in 11 new additions

    How’s it going? What it’s all on the last guy in? Don’t think so.
    Executive Summary:

    This football club is an omnishambles of a clusterfcuk.

    It's a miracle we even get 11 people out on the pitch in Charlton shirts in time for kick off.
    We don't. 
    We always kick off a few minutes late.

    I never said anything about scheduled kick off time ...
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