Arla milk

KBslittlesis

Someone further up the thread asked whether cows liked seaweed?
They love it. In fact most ruminants do. Plenty of the cows, sheep, goats around the coast here graze on the seaweed if the field runs down to the sea.

swordfish

seth plum said:

swordfish said:

seth plum said:

Dansk_Red said:

seth plum said:

According to the below it takes a sixth of an acre of land to feed a vegan compared to three and a quarter acres for a meat eater.

https://www.downtoearth.org/articles/2009-03/77/vegetarian-solution-part-3#:~:text=To%20feed%20a%20vegan%2C%20it,1%2F4%20acres%20of%20land.

Don't tell Ms Rayner as she will use it to ban all animal farming and build more tower blocks on unused farm land, to house an unsustainable growing population. 😊😊😊😊 

Would it be possible to sustain the growing population if everybody was vegan/vegetarian?
Like using the previously grazed farmland to grow food?

I've seen it claimed that if all crops being grown to feed animals was diverted to feed humans instead, there'd be enough for no one in the world to go hungry with access to it. 

I'm not convinced, but it does give an idea of the enormous scale of crop growth, grain and legumes, needed to sustain the animal agriculture industry. 

In the article I linked above it is claimed that it takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of edible animal flesh.

Not to mention the vast volumes of water required to grow it.

PragueAddick

KBslittlesis said:

Carter said:

Callumcafc said:

That’s it I’m only drinking raw milk from now on.

None of this woke pasteurisation nonsense.

Haha thats made its way out to the suburbs 

More than a couple of the rabble at work have stated they will only consume raw milk from here on out. I cant wait until they see the stuff, a bloody, pussy mess that there is no way on this green earth I would consume, and like you say. Who needs Louis Pasteur and his processes 

That said, grass fed beef is best for everyone, bovines included. Just difficult to get hold of the stuff. 

Cows are already rammed full of antibiotics which may be good for the cow but less good for us second hand consuming them 

Is this a woosh?
You do know you can prepare milk that safe to drink without pasteurisation?
I drank my beautiful unpasteurised goats milk for years with no issues. I really miss it.

You're special, though. You go open water swimming when its 6c 

Isn't the problem that it may be fine fresh from the farm that morning, but by the time that it gets to us urban wimps in a Tetrapak, it's a slightly .er...different experience?

fenlandaddick

Has anyone asked what the cows think?

Scoham

fenlandaddick said:

Has anyone asked what the cows think?

swordfish

fenlandaddick said:

Has anyone asked what the cows think?

I did, and they said they were happier watching grass grow than watching Charlton games.

SoundAsa£

Danepak said:

Showmetheway2gohome said:

se9addick said:

It’s amazing how social media spreads these ridiculous conspiracy theories and how many people in the general population lack the critical thinking skills to avoid getting themselves swept away in them. 

Not saying I agree with the conspiracies. But do you not worry about the rise in cancer. Some of these chemicals their using can’t be good. 

If I turned back the clock I wouldn’t have the covid jab. 

Ever since I seem to pick up coughs and also sneezing fits. Which I never had before. 

Just had a meeting today with one of our resellers and she's been coughing a lot since she had Covid. She believes it's due to the respiratory nature of the disease, which can affect the lungs.

Me too.

alan dugdale

Super_Eddie_Youds said:

At least now we have a lot of experts on farming and diet to add to their already deep knowledge of vaccinology and epidemiology. 

So true.

stop_shouting

Super_Eddie_Youds said:

At least now we have a lot of experts on farming and diet to add to their already deep knowledge of vaccinology and epidemiology. 

Chat GPT is clearly a well used tool on here 

Wheresmeticket

stop_shouting said:

Super_Eddie_Youds said:

At least now we have a lot of experts on farming and diet to add to their already deep knowledge of vaccinology and epidemiology. 

Chat GPT is clearly a well used tool on here 

So many well-used tools on here.

Chizz

seth plum said:

swordfish said:

seth plum said:

Dansk_Red said:

seth plum said:

According to the below it takes a sixth of an acre of land to feed a vegan compared to three and a quarter acres for a meat eater.

https://www.downtoearth.org/articles/2009-03/77/vegetarian-solution-part-3#:~:text=To%20feed%20a%20vegan%2C%20it,1%2F4%20acres%20of%20land.

Don't tell Ms Rayner as she will use it to ban all animal farming and build more tower blocks on unused farm land, to house an unsustainable growing population. 😊😊😊😊 

Would it be possible to sustain the growing population if everybody was vegan/vegetarian?
Like using the previously grazed farmland to grow food?

I've seen it claimed that if all crops being grown to feed animals was diverted to feed humans instead, there'd be enough for no one in the world to go hungry with access to it. 

I'm not convinced, but it does give an idea of the enormous scale of crop growth, grain and legumes, needed to sustain the animal agriculture industry. 

In the article I linked above it is claimed that it takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of edible animal flesh.

I know what tastes better though

seth plum

Some individual people feel helpless in the face of the destruction of the planet. The refrain is very often ‘what can an individual like me do when China, or India, or Saudi Arabia or other places are going so large on fossil fuels?’
A huge amount of progress could be made if the population of the world turned vegan or vegetarian, or two days a week or whatever. It is possible for individuals to make a personal contribution however small. If enough people do it, the benefits would be larger.

swordfish

seth plum said:

Some individual people feel helpless in the face of the destruction of the planet. The refrain is very often ‘what can an individual like me do when China, or India, or Saudi Arabia or other places are going so large on fossil fuels?’
A huge amount of progress could be made if the population of the world turned vegan or vegetarian, or two days a week or whatever. It is possible for individuals to make a personal contribution however small. If enough people do it, the benefits would be larger.

This. I've seen it claimed you can't call yourself an environmentalist if a meat eater, but I think initiatives like meat free Mondays are a good idea and easy if you're so minded. It's argued that it means you're just being bad and harming the environment six days out of seven, but wrong to belittle any attempt to reduce in my view. I have, done, a hell of a lot, equivalent to about 4 days in every 7,  but I don't see me ever going full vegan.

Wheresmeticket

Chizz said:

seth plum said:

swordfish said:

seth plum said:

Dansk_Red said:

seth plum said:

According to the below it takes a sixth of an acre of land to feed a vegan compared to three and a quarter acres for a meat eater.

https://www.downtoearth.org/articles/2009-03/77/vegetarian-solution-part-3#:~:text=To%20feed%20a%20vegan%2C%20it,1%2F4%20acres%20of%20land.

Don't tell Ms Rayner as she will use it to ban all animal farming and build more tower blocks on unused farm land, to house an unsustainable growing population. 😊😊😊😊 

Would it be possible to sustain the growing population if everybody was vegan/vegetarian?
Like using the previously grazed farmland to grow food?

I've seen it claimed that if all crops being grown to feed animals was diverted to feed humans instead, there'd be enough for no one in the world to go hungry with access to it. 

I'm not convinced, but it does give an idea of the enormous scale of crop growth, grain and legumes, needed to sustain the animal agriculture industry. 

In the article I linked above it is claimed that it takes 16 pounds of grain to produce one pound of edible animal flesh.

I know what tastes better though

That's the important thing.

KBslittlesis

PragueAddick said:

KBslittlesis said:

Carter said:

Callumcafc said:

That’s it I’m only drinking raw milk from now on.

None of this woke pasteurisation nonsense.

Haha thats made its way out to the suburbs 

More than a couple of the rabble at work have stated they will only consume raw milk from here on out. I cant wait until they see the stuff, a bloody, pussy mess that there is no way on this green earth I would consume, and like you say. Who needs Louis Pasteur and his processes 

That said, grass fed beef is best for everyone, bovines included. Just difficult to get hold of the stuff. 

Cows are already rammed full of antibiotics which may be good for the cow but less good for us second hand consuming them 

Is this a woosh?
You do know you can prepare milk that safe to drink without pasteurisation?
I drank my beautiful unpasteurised goats milk for years with no issues. I really miss it.

You're special, though. You go open water swimming when its 6c 

Isn't the problem that it may be fine fresh from the farm that morning, but by the time that it gets to us urban wimps in a Tetrapak, it's a slightly .er...different experience?

You can freeze it to drink later no bother.

I’m special……..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣