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True, like any welfare addicted organisation, you take what comes and park your moralising at the doorMrOneLung said:
Why would they do that?Rothko said:Good to see the same bitterness towards the Hundred 4 years on, I hope you all wrote to the county board asking for the money to be sent back in protest
If you disagreed with a tax cut for higher earners would you ask your employer to take a bit extra out of your wages if you benefited from it?0 -
How can counties be described as a "welfare addicted organisation" when the are the very institutions that have, from the age of 10, coached and provided the infrastructure for those players in the Hundred? No side in the Hundred has a single age group side or a coaching set up.Rothko said:
True, like any welfare addicted organisation, you take what comes and park your moralising at the doorMrOneLung said:
Why would they do that?Rothko said:Good to see the same bitterness towards the Hundred 4 years on, I hope you all wrote to the county board asking for the money to be sent back in protest
If you disagreed with a tax cut for higher earners would you ask your employer to take a bit extra out of your wages if you benefited from it?
Your assertion also neatly swerves what most cricketing people have maintained that the ECB should have done with the money that they piled into the Hundred i.e. re-vamped the Blast. There would have been no need to consign the 50 over game to become a second rate competition which, in turn, meant that we had a disastrous World Cup because none of our internationals play that form of the game. But then the likes of the outgoing ECB CEO wouldn't have got his £1.13m bonus.
If you think that these franchises are going to be content with four weeks then you are kidding yourself. Vikram Banerjee, managing director of The Hundred, said in February that expanding the competition in future was a "no-brainer". It's bad enough that they occupy the whole of August meaning that there are no CC matches but, more to the point, there are no Test matches and that includes the Ashes. The Blast is now down to 12 games and the CC will go that way too in terms of reduced games. Players like Bethell and Bashir will, as is happening right now, have no outlet to learn their game - Bethell has played one CC match this season and scored 32 runs. How is he meant to improve doing that given he has yet to hit a hundred in any form of the game?
So this isn't all about moralising. It's about protecting the integrity of the game as a whole in this country. Eventually that will be run by the owners of the IPL franchises and they will be dictating what they want. But we shouldn't feel sorry for the lad from Canterbury or that parents of that lad or lass who has to travel "hundreds" of miles on a Tuesday evening to train with the Mumbai Indian Invincibles. Of course they won't actually do that. They'll go and play another sport instead because that's what talented kids do and what those parents will opt to do because it's more manageable. And they will be lost to the game for ever. Equally, I hope have you never bemoaned the loss of one of our footballers, who has been with us for a decade, but who ends up going for peanuts to a Premier League Club without kicking a ball in anger in our first team? That is what will be happening more and more in cricket.
Finally, I'm pleased that you are enthralled by the Hundred and that you can't see any adverse affect on the game as a whole. But here's a suggestion, Why don't you celebrate that on the actual Hundred thread and discuss all the ups and downs of all those thrilling games. I've just checked and you might have one big problem there though. Despite the competition being almost half way through this season, the last comment was a year ago. Not one mention of any of this season's matches. Why is that? Equally, why don't the Mumbai Indian Invincibles have their own thread? There must be loads of people just itching to laud their side? Perhaps you could start one?
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Though about replying to this.Rothko said:
True, like any welfare addicted organisation, you take what comes and park your moralising at the doorMrOneLung said:
Why would they do that?Rothko said:Good to see the same bitterness towards the Hundred 4 years on, I hope you all wrote to the county board asking for the money to be sent back in protest
If you disagreed with a tax cut for higher earners would you ask your employer to take a bit extra out of your wages if you benefited from it?
But someone has already said it better than I ever could.Addick Addict said:
How can counties be described as a "welfare addicted organisation" when the are the very institutions that have, from the age of 10, coached and provided the infrastructure for those players in the Hundred? No side in the Hundred has a single age group side or a coaching set up.Rothko said:
True, like any welfare addicted organisation, you take what comes and park your moralising at the doorMrOneLung said:
Why would they do that?Rothko said:Good to see the same bitterness towards the Hundred 4 years on, I hope you all wrote to the county board asking for the money to be sent back in protest
If you disagreed with a tax cut for higher earners would you ask your employer to take a bit extra out of your wages if you benefited from it?
Your assertion also neatly swerves what most cricketing people have maintained that the ECB should have done with the money that they piled into the Hundred i.e. re-vamped the Blast. There would have been no need to consign the 50 over game to become a second rate competition which, in turn, meant that we had a disastrous World Cup because none of our internationals play that form of the game. But then the likes of the outgoing ECB CEO wouldn't have got his £1.13m bonus.
If you think that these franchises are going to be content with four weeks then you are kidding yourself. Vikram Banerjee, managing director of The Hundred, said in February that expanding the competition in future was a "no-brainer". It's bad enough that they occupy the whole of August meaning that there are no CC matches but, more to the point, there are no Test matches and that includes the Ashes. The Blast is now down to 12 games and the CC will go that way too in terms of reduced games. Players like Bethell and Bashir will, as is happening right now, have no outlet to learn their game - Bethell has played one CC match this season and scored 32 runs. How is he meant to improve doing that given he has yet to hit a hundred in any form of the game?
So this isn't all about moralising. It's about protecting the integrity of the game as a whole in this country. Eventually that will be run by the owners of the IPL franchises and they will be dictating what they want. But we shouldn't feel sorry for the lad from Canterbury or that parents of that lad or lass who has to travel "hundreds" of miles on a Tuesday evening to train with the Mumbai Indian Invincibles. Of course they won't actually do that. They'll go and play another sport instead because that's what talented kids do and what those parents will opt to do because it's more manageable. And they will be lost to the game for ever. Equally, I hope have you never bemoaned the loss of one of our footballers, who has been with us for a decade, but who ends up going for peanuts to a Premier League Club without kicking a ball in anger in our first team? That is what will be happening more and more in cricket.
Finally, I'm pleased that you are enthralled by the Hundred and that you can't see any adverse affect on the game as a whole. But here's a suggestion, Why don't you celebrate that on the actual Hundred thread and discuss all the ups and downs of all those thrilling games. I've just checked and you might have one big problem there though. Despite the competition being almost half way through this season, the last comment was a year ago. Not one mention of any of this season's matches. Why is that? Equally, why don't the Mumbai Indian Invincibles have their own thread? There must be loads of people just itching to laud their side? Perhaps you could start one?
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And once again, ain't that the truth !cantersaddick said:
Though about replying to this.Rothko said:
True, like any welfare addicted organisation, you take what comes and park your moralising at the doorMrOneLung said:
Why would they do that?Rothko said:Good to see the same bitterness towards the Hundred 4 years on, I hope you all wrote to the county board asking for the money to be sent back in protest
If you disagreed with a tax cut for higher earners would you ask your employer to take a bit extra out of your wages if you benefited from it?
But someone has already said it better than I ever could.Addick Addict said:
How can counties be described as a "welfare addicted organisation" when the are the very institutions that have, from the age of 10, coached and provided the infrastructure for those players in the Hundred? No side in the Hundred has a single age group side or a coaching set up.Rothko said:
True, like any welfare addicted organisation, you take what comes and park your moralising at the doorMrOneLung said:
Why would they do that?Rothko said:Good to see the same bitterness towards the Hundred 4 years on, I hope you all wrote to the county board asking for the money to be sent back in protest
If you disagreed with a tax cut for higher earners would you ask your employer to take a bit extra out of your wages if you benefited from it?
Your assertion also neatly swerves what most cricketing people have maintained that the ECB should have done with the money that they piled into the Hundred i.e. re-vamped the Blast. There would have been no need to consign the 50 over game to become a second rate competition which, in turn, meant that we had a disastrous World Cup because none of our internationals play that form of the game. But then the likes of the outgoing ECB CEO wouldn't have got his £1.13m bonus.
If you think that these franchises are going to be content with four weeks then you are kidding yourself. Vikram Banerjee, managing director of The Hundred, said in February that expanding the competition in future was a "no-brainer". It's bad enough that they occupy the whole of August meaning that there are no CC matches but, more to the point, there are no Test matches and that includes the Ashes. The Blast is now down to 12 games and the CC will go that way too in terms of reduced games. Players like Bethell and Bashir will, as is happening right now, have no outlet to learn their game - Bethell has played one CC match this season and scored 32 runs. How is he meant to improve doing that given he has yet to hit a hundred in any form of the game?
So this isn't all about moralising. It's about protecting the integrity of the game as a whole in this country. Eventually that will be run by the owners of the IPL franchises and they will be dictating what they want. But we shouldn't feel sorry for the lad from Canterbury or that parents of that lad or lass who has to travel "hundreds" of miles on a Tuesday evening to train with the Mumbai Indian Invincibles. Of course they won't actually do that. They'll go and play another sport instead because that's what talented kids do and what those parents will opt to do because it's more manageable. And they will be lost to the game for ever. Equally, I hope have you never bemoaned the loss of one of our footballers, who has been with us for a decade, but who ends up going for peanuts to a Premier League Club without kicking a ball in anger in our first team? That is what will be happening more and more in cricket.
Finally, I'm pleased that you are enthralled by the Hundred and that you can't see any adverse affect on the game as a whole. But here's a suggestion, Why don't you celebrate that on the actual Hundred thread and discuss all the ups and downs of all those thrilling games. I've just checked and you might have one big problem there though. Despite the competition being almost half way through this season, the last comment was a year ago. Not one mention of any of this season's matches. Why is that? Equally, why don't the Mumbai Indian Invincibles have their own thread? There must be loads of people just itching to laud their side? Perhaps you could start one?
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Not gonna quote for obvious reasons but AA that might be the best non Charlton related post I've read on here. Nailed it.3
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Great post Addict Addict1
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A truly exceptional post1
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Amazing work Addick Addict. Bang on.1
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Well said AA, it is such a shame that a once fantastic competition is now basically a 2nd/3rds XI against each other, I went Beckenham last Sunday and it was beyond painful watching Kent.2
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It is a very good post, probably more than my provocative post deserved.
let’s get this out of the way early, I love cricket, I’ll watch pretty much anything that is bad versus ball on a 22 yard pitch, be test match, T20 or The Hundred.
but, the counties do run as welfare dependents, a number without ECB central funding are insolvent, and without the windfall from the Hundred, would be killed by the bundle of debt that they sit on.The Leonard Curtis report https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jul/15/hundred-share-sale-saved-six-counties-collapse-cricket-report is a reminder, and for that kid from Canterbury, they probably wouldn’t have Kent as an option as the county financially would
have to scale back its operations, due to lack of cash, and would
be travelling to Surrey to play.We’ve got counties this year not turning there floodlights on for 4 day games as they can’t afford it, that’s the state of the situation.The full report is here https://www.leonardcurtis.co.uk/news/leonard-curtis-unveils-new-report-on-financial-health-of-county-cricket-ahead-of-ps520m-windfall-from-the-hundred.
I’ve never brought the Argument that a reformed Blast, would create the money needed, the blast has been around for about 25 years now and every change to it has been driven by counties wanting more home games, not improving the Competition. The ECB did the research and found that the public weren’t interested in more County cricket.
so with the blessing of the counties, what was happening in Australia and India was built on.The counties do provide a pathway, I get that, but it’s still a painfully narrow one, that still struggles with state schools (beyond Grammars) so the Hundred windfall should be going into that, and paying down the debt.As for our 50 over failure at the last World Cup, blaming the Hundred is stretch, other nations who’s players play a lot of franchise cricket did fine, added to that, the Dean Jones cup for example is a smaller quicker competition for 10 teams, so can fit in the calendar, we’re blessed and hamstrung by having to make 18 teams work, unless, you spilt the blast or one day cup into a two division thing0 -
Great post AA. Couldn't agree more.1
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First class post by AA detailing how the game is strangling itself. The Hundred has unequivocally caused me to be a lapsed Sussex member after many consecutive years of membership. My small financial contribution is almost certainly lost for ever. The problem is I am not alone.2
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It was sad watching the stream of the Lancs game the other night to see how low the crowd was at Hove for a Friday night day/nighter , a few years back that would have been one that would have sold out. But even the Blast hasn't been selling out Hove either.thai malaysia addick said:First class post by AA detailing how the game is strangling itself. The Hundred has unequivocally caused me to be a lapsed Sussex member after many consecutive years of membership. My small financial contribution is almost certainly lost for ever. The problem is I am not alone.2 -
I'm on my way to Beckenham. I missed my connection so will be half an hour late. Hopefully we won't be all out already by the time I get there3
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Kent have been inserted. Two changes - Cohen and Klaassen left out for Rizvi and Quinn.0
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It looks like Jaydn hasn't faced a single ball in the first 3 overs, with Dawkins hogging the strike
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That's probably the right thing to do because you want Dawkins facing as much of the Power Play, with only two out, as possible as he is so aggressive usually.killerandflash said:It looks like Jaydn hasn't faced a single ball in the first 3 overs, with Dawkins hogging the strike0 -
50 up for Dawkins1
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70-0 (10)
Great start. Dawkins the one mainly with the strike and really putting bat to ball. Denly has had a life, dropped by the keeper and almost run out by first slip as he was walking off because the Umpire had given him out caught behind!
Dawkins 51* (43)
Denly 17* (17)4 - Sponsored links:
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Looking like a typical Beckenham road. Today's the day when a few of the promising batsmen on both sides will hope to go big.0
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Mark Dekker. last year's Metro coach, probably tried a year too early playing the youngsters in preference to Compton. Although the latter does improve the side, his absence this year through injury has allowed us to play all three of Jaydn, Dawkins and Ekansh. With us having a minimal chance of winning the competition, for all the pronouncements of Cook and Hollioake, that cannot be a bad thing.
Although we have to temper our enthusiasm because experience trumps promise, it is great, after an absence of players coming through to all of a sudden have three or four that might make it.1 -
100-0 (14.3)2
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Anyone watching on utube? Is the cameraman hammered? I’m getting sea sick watching2
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Jaydn likes a sweep. Indeed 90% of his runs against the spinners must have come this way.0
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50* (53) for Jaydn1
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These two have to be, at 19 and 18 respectively, have to be close to being the youngest opening pair to hit 50s for Kent in the same innings.3
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Dawkins out pulling for 85 (79)
155-1 (24.2)
Denly 65* (67)
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A shame, Dawkins out for 85.
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The two Lancs spinners who've been easily milked are 20 and 21 incidentally.0
