POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Peterborough Utd: Tuesday 11th February 2025: KO 19:45
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JamesSeed said:mendonca said:oohaahmortimer said:Most has been said but I still can’t believe how bad Dochertys header was from close in that led to the corner that we got the winner from , he headed it to where there were body’s in the way when just the other direction away from the keeper had space.
I love Berry and Godden, two positive pieces of class who are so aware of what’s going on and much quicker thinkers than most of the rest .
I should have made my point a bit clearer, in that he lacks a bit of calmness and disguise in his finishing and attempts at goal. Everything else, more than happy!1 -
Raith_C_Chattonell said:Making use of my freedom pass I sometimes take a trip into London for a walkabout, before doing my bit to boost the economy with a pub lunch or Pret sarnie.
Anyway, the thing that genuinely amazes me is the new tower blocks that have (and are) springing up. Whether taking the Abbeywood, Elizabeth or Bexleyheath train lines they are everywhere. Kidbrook, Lewisham, and Woolwich abound with them. On my drive to the Valley along the A206 there are a multitude of them and yet more being built within walking distance of the Valley.
The UK population has risen by 25 million in my lifetime, the population of Greenwich rose by 13 percent between 2011 and 2021 - that can only have accelerated in the last four years. There surely must be scope to increase our home attendance.
I'm not a marketing man, but I'm sure there are plenty of bright young people out there brimming over with ideas to target these high rise people.
The caveat of course is the product we supply, but if we are on a crest of a wave, now would be a good time to start.0 -
oohaahmortimer said:Most has been said but I still can’t believe how bad Dochertys header was from close in that led to the corner that we got the winner from , he headed it to where there were body’s in the way when just the other direction away from the keeper had space.
I love Berry and Godden, two positive pieces of class who are so aware of what’s going on and much quicker thinkers than most of the rest .
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There’s been talk about low attendance and hopes that bigger crowds will come if we keep up our good form, but I wouldn’t count on it. Even in 2018-19, when we had a strong season, we were barely getting over 12,000 towards the end. The reality is, there’s a ceiling on how many people want to watch League One football—whether it’s Charlton or anyone else.
Years of League One mediocrity have led many potential fans to drift away, and the increasing availability of streaming options this season is only making things worse. A bit of mid-season momentum isn’t going to suddenly bring those lapsed supporters back.
Streaming and general League One fatigue weren’t as much of a factor in 2018-19 (only our third season at this level), yet even then, crowds remained low despite our success. The truth is, the only way we’ll consistently draw 17,000–20,000+ at The Valley is by being in the Championship.
The club could certainly do more to promote itself locally, but the harsh reality is that many football fans simply don’t care about anything outside the Premier League’s top five. For those of us who are passionate enough to support a struggling London club and engage in discussions like these, that might seem strange. But it’s the reality.
I live in Woolwich, and I rarely see Charlton shirts or hats. Many locals weren’t born here, and for those who do follow football, League One doesn’t even register. Most have already pledged allegiance to Man United or Chelsea—some might not even realize they have a club right on their doorstep. That could change if we ever made it back to the Premier League, but for now, it’s a tough sell.
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charltonbob said:AFKABartram said:Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
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killerandflash said:PragueAddick said:ken_shabby said:stockportaddick said:ElfsborgAddick said:Themightyath2 said:When I walked out of the Valley on the 3rd December after losing to Crawley, I genuinely thought the season was over, and it would be 6 more months of league one mid table mediocrity.What a turnaround!COYA
And how many on here were saying that Jones had to go?!
The turnaround has been incredible and not just the results, we are decent to watch too.
For years, more than 20 for sure, since the season we missed Scott Parker for the first two months I've a "minor injury" I've been banging on about the need to invest in the medical and fitness side. It seemed to be a minority pre-occupation on here, and indeed in the boardroom; but there's a simple logic at work. What's the point of spending money on good players if they are regularly unavailable? This was something that Methven at least asked publicly; I waited for action to back up the words, but along came Dr Will Abbott. We started the season looking fit. Miles and Chuks were clearly carefully managed back to availability. We lost Edwards due to a criminal assault, and during the bad autumn run it looked as though our jinx was back. Bu Ramsey returned on the optimistic end of the schedule, and now we have a full squad barring Ahadme. I cannot recall the last time we went into February with such a fit squad. And if you doubt the importance of that, just go and check out how things look at Huddersfield right now, where their expensive transfer window signing is one of several key players unavailable.
What's more, in these last two games I can't think of a time when a player went down needing treatment (AMB aside). That's pretty remarkable too. Early yesterday Godden seemed to catch his ankle near the touchline, probably down to that bloody pitch, and Terry on commentary was fretting about him- but he shook it off without treatment. We all fret about the games coming thick and fast, and whether some players need resting. Well based on their fitness, the answer is a clear "no". I find this pretty damn amazing, and it gives us a huge advantage at this stage of the season.
NJ has done a great job but I hope he acknowledges the great job done by Will Abbott in getting our medical and fitness regime into shape.
The contrast is enormous from before. All clubs get injuries, but we've massively cut down on the really annoying muscle injuries that so often plague squads (e.g. Spurs). Previously those minor muscle injuries would drag on and on, with players either out forever or rushed back too soon, and then breaking down again.
And the number of late goals we've scored shows our fitness as well. In 2025 we've hardly changed the starting 11, yet despite the miserable weather and poor pitch, the players still have plenty of energy.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-injury-news-charlton-298519110 -
Southbank said:killerandflash said:PragueAddick said:ken_shabby said:stockportaddick said:ElfsborgAddick said:Themightyath2 said:When I walked out of the Valley on the 3rd December after losing to Crawley, I genuinely thought the season was over, and it would be 6 more months of league one mid table mediocrity.What a turnaround!COYA
And how many on here were saying that Jones had to go?!
The turnaround has been incredible and not just the results, we are decent to watch too.
For years, more than 20 for sure, since the season we missed Scott Parker for the first two months I've a "minor injury" I've been banging on about the need to invest in the medical and fitness side. It seemed to be a minority pre-occupation on here, and indeed in the boardroom; but there's a simple logic at work. What's the point of spending money on good players if they are regularly unavailable? This was something that Methven at least asked publicly; I waited for action to back up the words, but along came Dr Will Abbott. We started the season looking fit. Miles and Chuks were clearly carefully managed back to availability. We lost Edwards due to a criminal assault, and during the bad autumn run it looked as though our jinx was back. Bu Ramsey returned on the optimistic end of the schedule, and now we have a full squad barring Ahadme. I cannot recall the last time we went into February with such a fit squad. And if you doubt the importance of that, just go and check out how things look at Huddersfield right now, where their expensive transfer window signing is one of several key players unavailable.
What's more, in these last two games I can't think of a time when a player went down needing treatment (AMB aside). That's pretty remarkable too. Early yesterday Godden seemed to catch his ankle near the touchline, probably down to that bloody pitch, and Terry on commentary was fretting about him- but he shook it off without treatment. We all fret about the games coming thick and fast, and whether some players need resting. Well based on their fitness, the answer is a clear "no". I find this pretty damn amazing, and it gives us a huge advantage at this stage of the season.
NJ has done a great job but I hope he acknowledges the great job done by Will Abbott in getting our medical and fitness regime into shape.
The contrast is enormous from before. All clubs get injuries, but we've massively cut down on the really annoying muscle injuries that so often plague squads (e.g. Spurs). Previously those minor muscle injuries would drag on and on, with players either out forever or rushed back too soon, and then breaking down again.
And the number of late goals we've scored shows our fitness as well. In 2025 we've hardly changed the starting 11, yet despite the miserable weather and poor pitch, the players still have plenty of energy.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-injury-news-charlton-29851911
In the same 10 minute period, we have only conceded 3.
Last season, it was the other way around.
Which shows that the ream is much fitter. Not only playing at a higher tempo until the final whistle, but mentally fitter, commiting less mistakes.
Which I think shows the efforts of both Will Abbott to keep the players fit, and NJ's training to make sure they're all as fit as butcher's dogs...10 -
golfaddick said:LenGlover said:Looking at the table @Dazzler21 posted on the match thread Orient is a real 6 pointer we mustn't lose now.
Away to Stockport & Orient
Home to Huddersfield & Barnsley.
Dare I say it.....any team on 40 points are now irrelevant to us.7 -
Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.
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SteveACS said:Southbank said:killerandflash said:PragueAddick said:ken_shabby said:stockportaddick said:ElfsborgAddick said:Themightyath2 said:When I walked out of the Valley on the 3rd December after losing to Crawley, I genuinely thought the season was over, and it would be 6 more months of league one mid table mediocrity.What a turnaround!COYA
And how many on here were saying that Jones had to go?!
The turnaround has been incredible and not just the results, we are decent to watch too.
For years, more than 20 for sure, since the season we missed Scott Parker for the first two months I've a "minor injury" I've been banging on about the need to invest in the medical and fitness side. It seemed to be a minority pre-occupation on here, and indeed in the boardroom; but there's a simple logic at work. What's the point of spending money on good players if they are regularly unavailable? This was something that Methven at least asked publicly; I waited for action to back up the words, but along came Dr Will Abbott. We started the season looking fit. Miles and Chuks were clearly carefully managed back to availability. We lost Edwards due to a criminal assault, and during the bad autumn run it looked as though our jinx was back. Bu Ramsey returned on the optimistic end of the schedule, and now we have a full squad barring Ahadme. I cannot recall the last time we went into February with such a fit squad. And if you doubt the importance of that, just go and check out how things look at Huddersfield right now, where their expensive transfer window signing is one of several key players unavailable.
What's more, in these last two games I can't think of a time when a player went down needing treatment (AMB aside). That's pretty remarkable too. Early yesterday Godden seemed to catch his ankle near the touchline, probably down to that bloody pitch, and Terry on commentary was fretting about him- but he shook it off without treatment. We all fret about the games coming thick and fast, and whether some players need resting. Well based on their fitness, the answer is a clear "no". I find this pretty damn amazing, and it gives us a huge advantage at this stage of the season.
NJ has done a great job but I hope he acknowledges the great job done by Will Abbott in getting our medical and fitness regime into shape.
The contrast is enormous from before. All clubs get injuries, but we've massively cut down on the really annoying muscle injuries that so often plague squads (e.g. Spurs). Previously those minor muscle injuries would drag on and on, with players either out forever or rushed back too soon, and then breaking down again.
And the number of late goals we've scored shows our fitness as well. In 2025 we've hardly changed the starting 11, yet despite the miserable weather and poor pitch, the players still have plenty of energy.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-injury-news-charlton-29851911
In the same 10 minute period, we have only conceded 3.
Last season, it was the other way around.
Which shows that the ream is much fitter. Not only playing at a higher tempo until the final whistle, but mentally fitter, commiting less mistakes.
Which I think shows the efforts of both Will Abbott to keep the players fit, and NJ's training to make sure they're all as fit as butcher's dogs...
Having a consistent team selection makes it easier and no doubt much more enjoyable to play. It also means there is a core group that is getting fitter and building up more stamina simply by playing a competitive match once or twice a week. It also means that it becomes harder to break into that core 11 and replace the guy who is currently claiming that position and, vice versa, the guy holding that position won’t want to give it up. We probably saw an example of that the other night when for a few moments it looked like Godden might have to go off but instead he walked it off.1 - Sponsored links:
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Southbank said:charltonbob said:AFKABartram said:Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
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Southbank said:charltonbob said:AFKABartram said:Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
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WillmoreTheRed said:Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.2
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I am glad to see somethings never change - you can never fairly beat a side managed by a Ferguson.1
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JohnnyH2 said:Southbank said:charltonbob said:AFKABartram said:Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.
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I live about an 8-minute walk from the Valley, and it was about 50/50 whether to stay in and watch City v Madrid or leave the house. I was happy I went to the valley, but I don't blame anyone who stayed in.
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Didnt we a few years back have to play Sheff Wed on a monday night in the cup as it clashed with Champions league games.0
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WillmoreTheRed said:Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.
Against Blackpool and Peterbrough however, what we were doing was working and we just needed to stick at it. Bringing Chucks on completely hamstringed our pressing game against Blackpool - though would also add that Kanu didn't give us anything positive either.
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Todds_right_hook said:fenaddick said:The winner from the Covered End (warning, very sweary)
https://x.com/cafcforlcafc/status/1889438840424689786?s=46&t=MojDVxh_AjG5taAWPQn6Tw
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Stig said:bobmunro said:AFKABartram said:Feared the worst at first, the teams come out to a near empty Valley and started the game in a similar flat way. Jones made a couple of mistakes in first 3 mins, and their lightening striker blitzed past him and Gillesphey early on with ease.But after about 10-15 mins we settled into the game and seemed to raise it about 3 gears. We were unlucky not to have at least a couple of goals lead by halftime, and when the goal and sending off happened, it seemed like a game over situation.
Fair play to Peterborough, they had what looked a very young team and showed fantastic spirit playing with 10 men. The done the necessary slowing and we didn’t really get to grips with trying to stretch them. I wasn’t sure of the subs, Godden’s movement and in-box awareness seemed much more likely to lead to a late goal than lumping to Chuks and Miles, but we got what we needed from that corner.
For just 6 or 7 thousand in the ground we made a fair old racket at the end. Such a shame the team continue to get so low turnouts, without the freebies I counted just 42 people in my block and the adjacent block, though it was nice to stand and not worry about anyone behind. Just one executive box in use in the ground too so commercially it seems just as bad.As others have said the team is unrecognisable from a couple of months ago. It’s been an amazing turnaround, transition, whatever you want to call it. It was another good, well worked and deserved victory last night, this is the most we have played as ‘a team’ where everyone knows their role so quite a long time.Good post.On your attendance point, a cold Tuesday night in February is what we would expect for a mid-table Division 3 game, which is what we were just a few games ago. Keep up this run and the crowds will swell - as we all know, initiatives around the edges to increase crowd size have a tiny effect, consistently winning matches and building hope of promotion puts bums on seats.
Too often we have flattered to deceive, so it is not a surprise that the return is a trickle, but if we can keep going then a return to decent crowds will be possible, but maybe not in the freezing cold
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WillmoreTheRed said:Anyone else think that we should stop lumping Chuks on towards the end of games? Think Kanu or Leaburn are much better/more dangerous options they can also keep the pressure on the other team more by being able to actually sprint.
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Chippycafc said:Didnt we a few years back have to play Sheff Wed on a monday night in the cup as it clashed with Champions league games.2
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robinofottershaw said:HastingsRed said:JamesSeed said:fenaddick said:Not heard a peep from my Posh supporting colleagues this morning, wonderful1
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AddicksAddict said:robinofottershaw said:HastingsRed said:JamesSeed said:fenaddick said:Not heard a peep from my Posh supporting colleagues this morning, wonderful0
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ThrappersAddick said:tangoflash said:Got into work this morning full of joy. I was told I had a delivery in Thrapston, not twigging that it's only 15 miles from P'boro, off I headed. When I got there the fork lift driver approached my truck (which is heavily adourned with Charlton flags, lights, shirts etc) and was met with the greeting along the lines of "You got some fecking nerve driving that in here". Made me chuckle, but not as much as when he later added "you lot were lucky. We deserved at least a point".
Delusion it seems runs through every club.
Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here, it's a lonely life...
"Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here" ? rather there than be stuck on the Greenwich/Deptford/Lewisham border. Wanna swap ?1 -
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There’s been talk about low attendance and hopes that bigger crowds will come if we keep up our good form, but I wouldn’t count on it. Even in 2018-19, when we had a strong season, we were barely getting over 12,000 towards the end. The reality is, there’s a ceiling on how many people want to watch League One football—whether it’s Charlton or anyone else.
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charltonbob said:ThrappersAddick said:tangoflash said:Got into work this morning full of joy. I was told I had a delivery in Thrapston, not twigging that it's only 15 miles from P'boro, off I headed. When I got there the fork lift driver approached my truck (which is heavily adourned with Charlton flags, lights, shirts etc) and was met with the greeting along the lines of "You got some fecking nerve driving that in here". Made me chuckle, but not as much as when he later added "you lot were lucky. We deserved at least a point".
Delusion it seems runs through every club.
Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here, it's a lonely life...
"Between the Posh and Cobblers fans up here" ? rather there than be stuck on the Greenwich/Deptford/Lewisham border. Wanna swap ?
Though it no longer has a station, Thrapston has the next best thing, old railway walks amongst other things to do, and i just spent a chunk of my life finding Station Road on Google earth, which is nice.
https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attractions-g504029-Activities-Thrapston_Northamptonshire_England.html
@ThrappersAddick
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