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Selling out Ukraine, is it worth a show of support at the Valley

Bailey
Bailey Posts: 3,265
edited February 13 in General Charlton
Trump is now selling out Ukraine is it worth a show of support at the Valley, to let our American owners know how we feel ? 

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  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    And Close thread….
    Why Gary ?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,982
    Bailey said:
    And Close thread….
    Why Gary ?
    Because admin have asked for about the last 5 years to keep politics off the forum.

    Its not that hard.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,006
    Our support needs to be 100% Charlton at the Valley for the rest of the season 
  • Bailey said:
    And Close thread….
    Why Gary ?
    Because admin have asked for about the last 5 years to keep politics off the forum.

    Its not that hard.



    ...Why not...😉

  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    I don't think it's taking a side on politics, that I totally agree with as it's an no win situation but the situation is now a lot more serious than day to day tory vs labour arguments. If people think it's not worth it, fine but it's good to gauge opinion surely.  
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,286
    I’m sure a show of support at Charlton vs Exeter City will make Trump change his plans 
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,918
    We doing Gaza the week after ? 
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,655
    Bailey said:
    Trump is now selling out Ukraine is it worth a show of support at the Valley, to let our American owners know how we feel ? 
    As appalling as the situation is I don't any point in making futile gestures.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    I'm not talking about a protest, one flag maybe but if it's not a good idea that's fine. 
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  • Bailey said:
    I'm not talking about a protest, one flag maybe but if it's not a good idea that's fine. 
    Even more reason for Trump to sit up and take notice.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Bailey said:
    I'm not talking about a protest, one flag maybe but if it's not a good idea that's fine. 
    Even more reason for Trump to sit up and take notice.
    He aint bought a half season ticket has he ? 
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,722
    edited February 13
    Before this gets closed I wonder what you hope to achieve with this? 
    No one gives a shit about quite possibly the most unfashionable side in the leagues anyway so be surprised if Trump and international news will give a damn. Plus what's it got to do with our owners?

    Anyway where are the press trucks gonna go with all the parking restrictions? 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    shine166 said:
    We doing Gaza the week after ? 

  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270
    I'm not sure a single Ukrainian flag at a Charlton match will make much of a difference, or indeed any noise. 

    Also how do you know which way our plethora of owners voted?
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338

  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,006
    Not sure what good virtue-signalling will do but nothing to stop you taking a flag. 

    But, as already mentioned, the day must be about Charlton. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Before this gets closed I wonder what you hope to achieve with this? 
    No one gives a shit about quite possibly the most unfashionable side in the leagues anyway so be surprised if Trump and international news will give a damn. Plus what's it got to do with our owners?

    Anyway where are the press trucks gonna go with all the parking restrictions? 
    It was a question, it wasn't a directive or hoping to achieve anything but state if the USA doesn't support them, we still do or some of us still do. By the response people are not interested, which is fine, but I am of the opinion those people are fighting a war for us and Trump pulling out and doing a dodgy deal with a war criminal brings it closer to us, but people don't seem interested and that's in the majority. 

  • Before this gets closed I wonder what you hope to achieve with this? 
    No one gives a shit about quite possibly the most unfashionable side in the leagues anyway so be surprised if Trump and international news will give a damn. Plus what's it got to do with our owners?

    Anyway where are the press trucks gonna go with all the parking restrictions? 
    Some social media outlet will post a picture of it with a caption about how great/awful Charlton fans are with the comments saying the opposite. I'm glad we don't part take in these kind of things.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,355
    shine166 said:
    We doing Gaza the week after ? 
    Nah, those Celtic cnuts handle that!
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  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,890
    Bailey said:
    Trump is now selling out Ukraine is it worth a show of support at the Valley, to let our American owners know how we feel ? 
    You know that for a fact?

    Presumably you are party to all the conversations between all the stakeholders and diplomatic channels not including  the Orange one himself? 

    Mad suggestion that it should be a protest at a football match. 
  • Bailey said:
    Before this gets closed I wonder what you hope to achieve with this? 
    No one gives a shit about quite possibly the most unfashionable side in the leagues anyway so be surprised if Trump and international news will give a damn. Plus what's it got to do with our owners?

    Anyway where are the press trucks gonna go with all the parking restrictions? 
    It was a question, it wasn't a directive or hoping to achieve anything but state if the USA doesn't support them, we still do or some of us still do. By the response people are not interested, which is fine, but I am of the opinion those people are fighting a war for us and Trump pulling out and doing a dodgy deal with a war criminal brings it closer to us, but people don't seem interested and that's in the majority. 

    Do it then mate. Bring some Ukrainian flags. Pass them out to others. No one will care (outside of Charlton) but least it's a worthy statement that you want to make. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    stonemuse said:
    Not sure what good virtue-signalling will do but nothing to stop you taking a flag. 

    But, as already mentioned, the day must be about Charlton. 
    Flags aren’t permitted without a safety certificate.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited February 13
    To give you some respect I appreciate that you feel strongly about this and that you believe a majority of fans are in sympathy with your position - already dodgy ground imo - but where do we stop?  The Paris accord.  Gaza.  The project to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico.  Greenland.  Canada.  The way he is pinging objectives out there we could be looking at tying up every match going forward.  I would say get some leaflets done or make a website and publicise it outside the ground, or in the ground if you want but I'm not sure appropriating the match is the way forward.

    On the other hand, if you are just trolling then please take some time out.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Bailey said:
    Trump is now selling out Ukraine is it worth a show of support at the Valley, to let our American owners know how we feel ? 
    You know that for a fact?

    Presumably you are party to all the conversations between all the stakeholders and diplomatic channels not including  the Orange one himself? 

    Mad suggestion that it should be a protest at a football match. 
    A protest ? who said that then? err I must have got the fact that Trump is holding peace talks in Saudi with Putin and no one else all wrong then ? 
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,794
    edited February 13
    The damage is done now mate. Putin did what he did 4 years ago and he wasn’t stopped then. And Trump wasn’t in charge so it wasn’t up to him. And since then thousands on both sides have been killed. At least a settlement will stop the mindless killing otherwise it’ll just carry on getting worse. I don’t think Putin would agree on giving back what he’s already taken so we’d be back to square one. At this point it’s the better of two evils I’m afraid. That’s how I see it anyway. 

    Probably should close this thread as it will probably get out of hand. 
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