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If clean sheets win you titles, why aren't Burnley top?
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And you cannot win if you don't score.Pelling1993 said:
You don’t have to score the most goals or concede the fewest to win the league. It’s a daft thing to be obsessed about. But you cannot lose if you don’t concede.golfaddick said:My initial point still stands.
Burnley have an amazing defensive record and in so have kept 30 clean sheets. But they are still not top. Leeds are top by way of goal difference. So even by only conceding 15 goals all season Burnley might still not be Champions. Leeds have let on almost double the amount that Burnley have.....but have scored far more goals than they have conceded.
Ergo. Clean sheets by themselves do not win you titles.
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this debate is daft - golfie was right - he made the point that our defence was good at the start of the season but the lack of goals was a big problem - others seemed to think we could grind our way to success but it wasn't until we sorted the attack out, that we turned the corner - a good defence will only get u so far but is generally considered to be the starting point to build from and so it has proved this year0
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Or, turning one of their two 1-0 defeats into a 0-0 would have also won then the title, along with an even more impressive clean sheet record.golfaddick said:
Well its obvious you have to do both, but I started the thread when Burnley had just kept 12 clean sheets in a row..........but I think a few of those games ended 0-0. Imagine if a few of those 0-0's ended 2-1. They wouldn't have set a record but they would have won the title.se9addick said:
Was that really what you were saying all along? Really?golfaddick said:Yeah......nuff said.
I take all the brick bats that are thrown at me but I was right. Clean sheets dont win you titles.
Clean sheets & scoring goals do.2 -
At least with dirty sheets they can only get dirtier but clean sheets need washing all the time to keep then clean and this contributes to global warming, chemical saturation in the water and soil and ruins planets.
i'd rather rely on huge amounts of goals scored than keeping perpetually clean sheets, you know it makes sense.0 -
Golfie said Burnley wouldn’t get automatically promoted in his first post. He was wrong.DOUCHER said:this debate is daft - golfie was right - he made the point that our defence was good at the start of the season but the lack of goals was a big problem - others seemed to think we could grind our way to success but it wasn't until we sorted the attack out, that we turned the corner - a good defence will only get u so far but is generally considered to be the starting point to build from and so it has proved this year
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Top two for most clean sheets last season got promoted automatically…
Charlton have the most clean sheets this season so far…9 -
Yeah, since know it all has been slagging Charlton for their rubbish sound defence tactics and then criticised Burnley as well, both teams have been promoted.
We've gone from mid table in L1 to 7th in The Championship.
That Nathan Jones should start listening to what Golfie says
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11 clean sheets in our last 21 home games in all competitions.Callumcafc said:Top two for most clean sheets last season got promoted automatically…
Charlton have the most clean sheets this season so far…3 -
And have conceded the joint fewest number of goals. It is early days but we knew we had a strong team defensively. I get the impression the rest of the teams haven't worked it out yet. I told my Bristol City mate before we played them how good our defence was so it is becoming apparent just now.Callumcafc said:Top two for most clean sheets last season got promoted automatically…
Charlton have the most clean sheets this season so far…0 -
That’s an incredible stat, clean sheets in over 50% of home games.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
11 clean sheets in our last 21 home games in all competitions.Callumcafc said:Top two for most clean sheets last season got promoted automatically…
Charlton have the most clean sheets this season so far…1 -
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Chat GPT is very clever but really struggled with the strapline "Keeps Your Sheets Cleaner than Clean", but you get the idea.6 -
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What's the context of that table?1
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Must be Goals Conceded... In order of most to leastsam3110 said:What's the context of that table?
Although not sure what qualifies us to be bottom1 -
I'm trying to work out what the last column is representing1
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Here's the full table.sam3110 said:I'm trying to work out what the last column is representing
https://footystats.org/england/championship/goals-conceded-table0 -
Yes, shoulldn't we be top?ForeverAddickted said:
Must be Goals Conceded... In order of most to leastsam3110 said:What's the context of that table?
Although not sure what qualifies us to be bottom0 -
Simply on the topic, rather than the original post
But that's five clean sheets for the season now, matches the same amount this time last season
Only three teams (Coventry, Middlesbrough and Stoke) have better defensive records than us, whilst we're suddenly climbing the scoring charts, having scored more goals than 14-other teams in the Division.4 -
Six clean sheets in 14-games no... Only Stoke have a better defensive record than us now, but only two goals difference.
For the record, it took us 16-games to get the same amount of clean sheets this time last year6 -
Is this gonna be like the Chuks Aneke thread - new stats after every game?0
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No idea, but I did notice that Coventry have let in more goals than us.Off_it said:Is this gonna be like the Chuks Aneke thread - new stats after every game?0 -
Most clean sheets after 14 games (6 each):
Coventry 1st
Stoke 2nd
Charlton 5th
Followed by (5 each):
Middlesbrough 3rd
Millwall 4th
Preston 6th
Bristol City 7th
Birmingham 9th4 -
I wasn't too sure how long it would take us to reach 6 clean sheets this season, never in wild dreams did I think it would be after only 14 games. Superb job from entire team.3
