STATBANK: CHARLTON 3-0 EXETER

SteveACS

I like Mannion, and his kicking is a big part of that. When he pumps it long, hd tends to make the defenders panic, so whether the defender headed it or not, he deserves an "assist"...

lancashire lad

Of all the stats that I produce it is the "assists" that leads to controversy, I guess this is partly due to the liberal interpretation I use for gauging an "assist".

eastterrace6168

You just stay as you are Lancs, you ain't doing anything wrong and we should all appreciate the time and patience you put into this each match, more power to your elbow mate...

soapboxsam

I like the way Lancs lad does the assists and to give you an example the super talented Isak last season beat 7 Everton players in a mazy run before crossing the ball and because it diverted off a defender before going to a Newcastle player to score he wasn't given the Assist!

Lancs lad, who is one of our own would've given that assist to Isak, like he has done for TC.

Keep going Lancs, much appreciated.

killerandflash

soapboxsam said:

I like the way Lancs lad does the assists and to give you an example the super talented Isak last season beat 7 Everton players in a mazy run before crossing the ball and because it diverted off a defender before going to a Newcastle player to score he wasn't given the Assist!

Lancs lad, who is one of our own would've given that assist to Isak, like he has done for TC.

Keep going Lancs, much appreciated.

Whereas if a Forest defender had tried to clear the ball yesterday, but the ball bounced off Isak's back into the path of Gordon who scored, he would have got the assist 

lancashire lad

thanks for your support people

killerjerrylee

Stig said:

I'm quite happy with Lancs' methodology and am grateful to the effort he puts in. I always think the 'assist' is a bit of a funny stat anyway though. As I understand it, it came about simply as a way of recognising unselfish forwards who would make a pass rather than out-and-out greedy strikers who wouldn't, whereas it seems we often want to use it to describe something else, something rather more creative - perhaps what used to be called 'who made the goal' before 'the assist' became en vogue. In this sense, the twin assumptions that only one person assists and that that person is always the last person to play the ball are highly misleading. Very often the key action in making a goal happens before the final pass, but football's just too wonderful and messy to have any meaningful stat that takes account of all the possible permutations.

Perhaps we need another column noting the person who passed to the player who got the assist.

Stig

killerjerrylee said:

Stig said:

I'm quite happy with Lancs' methodology and am grateful to the effort he puts in. I always think the 'assist' is a bit of a funny stat anyway though. As I understand it, it came about simply as a way of recognising unselfish forwards who would make a pass rather than out-and-out greedy strikers who wouldn't, whereas it seems we often want to use it to describe something else, something rather more creative - perhaps what used to be called 'who made the goal' before 'the assist' became en vogue. In this sense, the twin assumptions that only one person assists and that that person is always the last person to play the ball are highly misleading. Very often the key action in making a goal happens before the final pass, but football's just too wonderful and messy to have any meaningful stat that takes account of all the possible permutations.

Perhaps we need another column noting the person who passed to the player who got the assist.

Or an eleven column grid that ticks off everyone involved in the move

Karim_myBagheri

Stig said:

killerjerrylee said:

Stig said:

I'm quite happy with Lancs' methodology and am grateful to the effort he puts in. I always think the 'assist' is a bit of a funny stat anyway though. As I understand it, it came about simply as a way of recognising unselfish forwards who would make a pass rather than out-and-out greedy strikers who wouldn't, whereas it seems we often want to use it to describe something else, something rather more creative - perhaps what used to be called 'who made the goal' before 'the assist' became en vogue. In this sense, the twin assumptions that only one person assists and that that person is always the last person to play the ball are highly misleading. Very often the key action in making a goal happens before the final pass, but football's just too wonderful and messy to have any meaningful stat that takes account of all the possible permutations.

Perhaps we need another column noting the person who passed to the player who got the assist.

Or an eleven column grid that ticks off everyone involved in the move

Including ball boys

lancashire lad

and ball girls or should it be ball young people

killerjerrylee

lancashire lad said:

and ball girls or should it be ball young people

Now you are being ageist.

MuttleyCAFC

It is a good point that was made earlier that our keepers are scoring low because they are having much less to do. Not because they are playing rubbish. This is a great development.

killerandflash

killerjerrylee said:

lancashire lad said:

and ball girls or should it be ball young people

Now you are being ageist.

The speed some of our ball boys and girls retrieve the ball, I think they're all pensioners 

YTS1978

Yorkshireaddick said:

This has become an important section on the forum and one I enjoy reading. It’s hugely appreciated. Keep doing what you are doing  👏

Praise from Yorkshire! You must be doing something right @lancashire lad 

eastterrace6168

killerandflash said:

killerjerrylee said:

lancashire lad said:

and ball girls or should it be ball young people

Now you are being ageist.

The speed some of our ball boys and girls retrieve the ball, I think they're all pensioners 

...🙄

timken

lancashire lad said:

thanks for your support people

In any "voluntary organisation" those who do the least work are the first to moan.
We all  love your  stats LL.