Tupacs song sway

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LargeAddick said:

Alwaysneil said:

And Goodbye Horse could be taken as either a pro-drugs or an anti-addicts chant as well. 

Not to forget its prejudicial to donkeys, mules etc.

Jayden Stockley to you…

jimmymelrose

AFKABartram said:

jimmymelrose said:

MrOneLung said:

jimmymelrose said:

Two of the things to still be proud of as a Charlton fan are:

1. That we were the first club, (weren’t we?), to do an anti-racism campaign with the red, white and black day.

Singling out a South London born player in a song chosen solely due to his colour would only be wholly justifiable if it were a Jamaican song as that is his heritage. If we must give reference to this, why not Bob Marley, for example?

This samba song has been copied from other clubs, which is in itself simply boring. I imagine the first supporters who sang this did so because they had a Brazilian player.

Btw, samba was invented in Brazil by black slaves from Africa.

2. We have a great academy.  Why can’t we show our pride in that by simply singing ’he's one of our own’ as Spurs fans did in unison for Harry Kane for so long?

You can all make singled worded criticism of my opinion as long as you like, or reply ’it’s just a laugh’ or suchlike. That shows that you haven’t thought it through. 

but the song is not chosen due to his colour, so your whole premise is bollocks

Are you sure about that? Name me a club whose supporters sing it about a white player. 

To make myself clear, it’s not just Charlton,  and it’s not overtly racist (I think that my use of this word has been misinterpreted) but it is a covert form of racism.

It’s literally taken me 5 mins of basic searching to find 10 white footballers this is being sung to. Give me half hour I’m sure I could find 20 more. This is just such a bonkers argument it’s ridiculous. 

Will Jarvis - Notts County - English
Harvey Greenslade - Yeovil - English
Chloe Kelly - Arsenal Ladies - English
Dylan Duffy - Chesterfield- Irish
Tommy Watson - Sunderland - English
Callum Wright - Plymouth - English
Joe Gelhardt - Hull - English
Stanley Mills - Oxford - English 
Pol Valentin - Sheff W - Spanish

Scott Twine - Bristol C - English 

Ok, fair enough.I was wrong then.

jimmymelrose

eastterrace6168 said:

This is gonna get shut down the way it's going which would be a real shame...

This is why closing down threads is a bad idea. 

You discuss things, exchange opinions, consider new ideas, learn new information and hopefully come to a consensus.  If this were only being sung to black English players, as I was only aware of, then I would have been right.

I’ve now been made aware that I was missing some information so I’ve been proven wrong. 

There’s no need for kick reaction or short, snidey backhand remarks, or even insults @Covered End

End of discussion.  We can get back to getting the thread on track. Sorry for my ill informed intervention. 

Now, can someone teach me the words, 

fenaddick

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