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Thames Water Meter
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Changing the locks gives them a clue.CharltonKerry said:
So did ours. But there’s only 2 of us now, over the years we managed to convince 3 kids they be better moving out ;-)PrincessFiona said:
we've had one for a while and our bills went down quote a lotcharltonbob said:Has anybody got a water meter ? Apparently in certain areas where we are ‘seriously water-stressed’ they are going to be compulsory. Just wondered how your monthly bills compare to the set charge every month that we've had up to now.1 -
Our rateable value bill was £300pa. When we got a meter it dropped to around £90pa.0
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Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.swords_alive said:
I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.valleynick66 said:
I don’t think that’s true.swords_alive said:valleynick66 said:
Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point.PrincessFiona said:
not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less.valleynick66 said:
No one is bringing ripped off.swords_alive said:
It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely. This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory, as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.Rudders22 said:I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd.The push to meters has been happening for many years.
I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller billIt’s always been advocated for smaller households.
yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home.Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs.Pretty sure all over your bills too.
A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity0 -
As it’s in the piping outside one’s property boundary, I don’t think there’s anything one can do to stop it.Off_it said:
Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.swords_alive said:
I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.valleynick66 said:
I don’t think that’s true.swords_alive said:valleynick66 said:
Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point.PrincessFiona said:
not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less.valleynick66 said:
No one is bringing ripped off.swords_alive said:
It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely. This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory, as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.Rudders22 said:I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd.The push to meters has been happening for many years.
I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller billIt’s always been advocated for smaller households.
yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home.Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs.Pretty sure all over your bills too.
A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity0 -
It’s the gas and electric smart meters that are a waste of time / utterly pointless other than saving you entering the readings on a website0
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I was made to have one put in last year and it caused a leak which TW refused to take responsibility for.0
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I don’t think I have ever noticed any difference between having any type of smart meter than not having one. Having any meter is not to my advantage, I think it’s more likely the providers cost savings.1
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hasn't your water bill gone down compared to before having a meter?charltonkeston said:I don’t think I have ever noticed any difference between having any type of smart meter than not having one. Having any meter is not to my advantage, I think it’s more likely the providers cost savings.0 -
I'm really struggling to understand why some people seem to automatically correlate smart meters to lower bills.
Sure, for some people that will be the case. But for others it won't be. That's surely not too difficult to accept, is it?0 -
Absolutely. Nothing you can do about it. They've got you over a barrell, the pants are down and there's no lube. All you can do is brace yourself.AddicksAddict said:
As it’s in the piping outside one’s property boundary, I don’t think there’s anything one can do to stop it.Off_it said:
Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.swords_alive said:
I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.valleynick66 said:
I don’t think that’s true.swords_alive said:valleynick66 said:
Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point.PrincessFiona said:
not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less.valleynick66 said:
No one is bringing ripped off.swords_alive said:
It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely. This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory, as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.Rudders22 said:I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd.The push to meters has been happening for many years.
I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller billIt’s always been advocated for smaller households.
yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home.Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs.Pretty sure all over your bills too.
A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity
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I moved into this house 12 years ago. The old fellow who had it before me and lived alone had the meter fitted. It’s probably been 13/14 years since I just paid the rateable charge. The house I have now has more than one bathroom and the garden is bigger so I don’t really have anything to compare with. I did have gas and electric meters fitted in this house but there’s no way they have any influence over fuel used. They just save me the hassle of logging into my account and giving a reading.PrincessFiona said:
hasn't your water bill gone down compared to before having a meter?charltonkeston said:I don’t think I have ever noticed any difference between having any type of smart meter than not having one. Having any meter is not to my advantage, I think it’s more likely the providers cost savings.0 -
Off_it said:
Absolutely. Nothing you can do about it. They've got you over a barrell, the pants are down and there's no lube. All you can do is brace yourself.AddicksAddict said:
As it’s in the piping outside one’s property boundary, I don’t think there’s anything one can do to stop it.Off_it said:
Not that hard, clearly - it's happened to me.swords_alive said:
I think on reflection it would be very hard to mandate that someone has to have a meter. I believe there are targets or objectives set in conjunction with Ofwat for water companies to install meters, or try to install a certain number of meters within a given period. If a homeowner is dead against it, apart from cutting them off, then financial penalties arise, still to the company's benefit.valleynick66 said:
I don’t think that’s true.swords_alive said:valleynick66 said:
Exactly. I agree. The option to have a meter is not new is my point.PrincessFiona said:
not with a meter - you consumption, or lack of it, means you pay less.valleynick66 said:
No one is bringing ripped off.swords_alive said:
It's people on their own who are being ripped off severely. This is just as good a reason as to why meters should be compulsory, as well as the fact of water scarcity. This could be enforced for one bed properties for example with no need to leave it to 'consumer choice'.Rudders22 said:I need to get a meter installed. I am being charged £60 a month. I live on my own. I don't drink tap water or drink coffee or tea. I drink coke. I don't have a bath every day and do my washing once a month. They have offered me a metter when i called them a couple of weeks ago and said I would think about it. I called TW to change my payments dates as I now get paid on the last day of the month instead of 22nd.The push to meters has been happening for many years.
I appreciate it is only a small number of responses, but CL are quite a varied lot in terms of households and the comments are a meter mean smaller billIt’s always been advocated for smaller households.
yes, it is generally known that water meters can save some people a lot of cash but then there are those that hesitate and wonder (sometimes for years), if they will be better off or not, when they patently would, yet TW just let them carry on wondering. That is a rip off in this privatised free market where individuals like Rudders22 and plenty of others are left well out of pocket to the company's advantage. They have the data on which households would benefit and should install a meter to those.Lots of activity in the past to get people on meters and think it may even be mandatory upon moving home.Some object to the switch through misplaced beliefs.Pretty sure all over your bills too.
A quick google tells me new builds in London have to have meters, and there's also compulsory metering in other areas facing up to water scarcity
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Applied for a water meter years ago but as we're on a shared supply with our next door neighbour we can't have an external one.
Can't have an internal one either as the supply enters the house too near to our downstairs toilet.
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If you can't have a water meter installed, you'll likely be charged an assessed charge based on factors like property size, occupancy, or a fixed rate. Water companies offer this alternative when meter installation is impractical or too expensive. You should compare the assessed charge with your current bill to see if it's cheaper, says Ofwat.2
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Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….1
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Ignore them.Arsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
I've been getting threatening letters for years and ignored the lot.
I even had a phone call telling me I had to have one.
I said instead of pestering me about a meter stop pumping millions of gallons of shit into our rivers.
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Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved tooArsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….3 -
Is the reason you don’t want a meter because you want to use more than the ‘average’ user and not pay your share?
I really don’t think it’s unreasonable to have a pay for what you use system notwithstanding the poor performance of all the water companies.Sadly we can’t influence their performance and neither can government.1 -
When we moved here 10 years ago we discovered that the farm opposite were paying for our water supply. They’d had family living in ours for many years and it was the original ‘workers cottage’. There’s only 2 of us and it’s a 2 bed cottage but we have 90 thirsty chickensPrincessFiona said:
Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved tooArsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
edit - I should add that when we started paying for our own supply we were offered a meter but declined0 -
Are the farm still paying for your water then? Maybe they have asked for a water meter to be installed as don't want to carry on paying?Arsenetatters said:
When we moved here 10 years ago we discovered that the farm opposite were paying for our water supply. They’d had family living in ours for many years and it was the original ‘workers cottage’. There’s only 2 of us and it’s a 2 bed cottage but we have 90 thirsty chickensPrincessFiona said:
Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved tooArsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
edit - I should add that when we started paying for our own supply we were offered a meter but declined0 - Sponsored links:
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No, we sorted that out with them and Thames Water so that the cottage has a separate supply.PrincessFiona said:
Are the farm still paying for your water then? Maybe they have asked for a water meter to be installed as don't want to carry on paying?Arsenetatters said:
When we moved here 10 years ago we discovered that the farm opposite were paying for our water supply. They’d had family living in ours for many years and it was the original ‘workers cottage’. There’s only 2 of us and it’s a 2 bed cottage but we have 90 thirsty chickensPrincessFiona said:
Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved tooArsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
edit - I should add that when we started paying for our own supply we were offered a meter but declined0 -
It partly depends on where you live, if in an area of deemed extreme water stress they can just fit one, they don’t need your permission. As Thames water I believe that covers their entire region.Arsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
unless you are running 20 baths a day for your chickens I suspect you’ll find you’ll save money compared to standard charge.
i live in a large house with four adults. That means probably 4 showers a day and two baths. My wife seems to love seeing the washing machine on at least 15 times a week, dishwasher at least once a day and as for the toilets and the amount of toilet paper we get through I reckon at least 20 flushes a day! Everyone bar me seems to like to see water pouring down the drain when they brush their teeth, for my sins I do like to keep my grass green and jet wash the family fleet each weekend.
all metered at about £90 a month.
what are you paying a month unmetered?
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My neighbours and me had a small leak on our shared supply. The bastards were all over us for weeks to get it fixed (at our expense). Now there's a leak in the road which is their responsibility to sort out and absolutely nothing is happening. The water is seeping up out of the ground, it can't even be collected and used to water gardens. Twats.0
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Silly question. Has it been reported? Sometimes people don’t and assume someone else has.IdleHans said:My neighbours and me had a small leak on our shared supply. The bastards were all over us for weeks to get it fixed (at our expense). Now there's a leak in the road which is their responsibility to sort out and absolutely nothing is happening. The water is seeping up out of the ground, it can't even be collected and used to water gardens. Twats.0 -
so if you pay without a meter now, it is highly likely from my experience that you will pay a lot less with a meterArsenetatters said:
No, we sorted that out with them and Thames Water so that the cottage has a separate supply.PrincessFiona said:
Are the farm still paying for your water then? Maybe they have asked for a water meter to be installed as don't want to carry on paying?Arsenetatters said:
When we moved here 10 years ago we discovered that the farm opposite were paying for our water supply. They’d had family living in ours for many years and it was the original ‘workers cottage’. There’s only 2 of us and it’s a 2 bed cottage but we have 90 thirsty chickensPrincessFiona said:
Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved tooArsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
edit - I should add that when we started paying for our own supply we were offered a meter but declined0 -
This.PrincessFiona said:
Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved too.Arsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
I always hated the thought of a water meter. Thought that I'd be paying a lot more yadda yadda yadda. Moved into a flat 18 months ago & was told I had to have one. It was finally fitted in February & my bill's gone down by at least a third.1 -
Not a silly question, but TW came and sprayed blue paint all over it weeks ago.valleynick66 said:
Silly question. Has it been reported? Sometimes people don’t and assume someone else has.IdleHans said:My neighbours and me had a small leak on our shared supply. The bastards were all over us for weeks to get it fixed (at our expense). Now there's a leak in the road which is their responsibility to sort out and absolutely nothing is happening. The water is seeping up out of the ground, it can't even be collected and used to water gardens. Twats.0 -
And it's highly likely from my experience that you will pay more.PrincessFiona said:
so if you pay without a meter now, it is highly likely from my experience that you will pay a lot less with a meterArsenetatters said:
No, we sorted that out with them and Thames Water so that the cottage has a separate supply.PrincessFiona said:
Are the farm still paying for your water then? Maybe they have asked for a water meter to be installed as don't want to carry on paying?Arsenetatters said:
When we moved here 10 years ago we discovered that the farm opposite were paying for our water supply. They’d had family living in ours for many years and it was the original ‘workers cottage’. There’s only 2 of us and it’s a 2 bed cottage but we have 90 thirsty chickensPrincessFiona said:
Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved tooArsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
edit - I should add that when we started paying for our own supply we were offered a meter but declined
It's not a right vs wrong scenario. There are some winners and some losers. Again, I really don't understand why some people just can't seem to accept that.0 -
How many people have you compared. Many comments on here form those saying they have saved. I don't know anyone who hasn'tOff_it said:
And it's highly likely from my experience that you will pay more.PrincessFiona said:
so if you pay without a meter now, it is highly likely from my experience that you will pay a lot less with a meterArsenetatters said:
No, we sorted that out with them and Thames Water so that the cottage has a separate supply.PrincessFiona said:
Are the farm still paying for your water then? Maybe they have asked for a water meter to be installed as don't want to carry on paying?Arsenetatters said:
When we moved here 10 years ago we discovered that the farm opposite were paying for our water supply. They’d had family living in ours for many years and it was the original ‘workers cottage’. There’s only 2 of us and it’s a 2 bed cottage but we have 90 thirsty chickensPrincessFiona said:
Out of interest, why don't you want one. Our bill has been a third for years since we've had a meter for. I don't; know anyone who hasn't made significant savings with a water meter. I've lost count of the friends and family we've told about our savings who has come back to us and thanked us for telling them as they have saved tooArsenetatters said:Just had a message left from Thames Water saying they want to make an appointment to fit our water meter. We don’t want a water meter. I’m not phoning them back. I guess it’s going to be like the smart meters - we held out as long as we could….
edit - I should add that when we started paying for our own supply we were offered a meter but declined
It's not a right vs wrong scenario. There are some winners and some losers. Again, I really don't understand why some people just can't seem to accept that.2 -
We have a water meter fitted and before i got it done, was paying about £350 a year. (2001) For years we were only paying about £10 a month once the meter was fitted. So we saved considerably.
It has now gone up to £40 a month to give TW a boost on infrastructure projects and meet environmental stamdards.to their funds.
My sister lives in Dartford in a 1 bedroom flat and pays over £600 crazy.0
