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Play off first leg

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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,523
    ABS

    Anyone But Stockport.
    You’ve changed your tune. Always thought it was ABM….
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    There's a week between Wrexham and Burton, then another week before the playoff semi, so hardly an arduous schedule requiring fit players to be rested.

    Of course we shouldn't play players with injury issues like Jones against Burton, but I don't see the need to rest fit and healthy players. It's not as if Burton will be flying into tackles against us, now they're safe.
    There was no reason for a Welling player to fly in against us in that pre season friendly and crock Leaburn for a considerable time, but it happened.
    That was a 6th tier triallist at the start of the season trying to make a name for himself. A completely different scenario from a joyful Burton team looking forward to a happy summer after clinching survival this week.
    In which case Jones should play the strongest 11, if you're sure they'll barely be putting in a tackle.

    I can't recall the last time a team with nothing to play for rolled over against us.
    If anything they've played better because the pressure was off.
    Not like the "old days".
    I'm sure Burton will be knocking it around nicely, with the pressure off.

    What they won't be doing is kicking lumps out of us, or flying into 50/50 tackles. Their players won't want injuries, and they won't want silly suspensions spoiling the start of next season.
    Yep, that's what we'd expect, but what I expect isn't the same as what happens.
    Fingers crossed they roll over for us.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,905
    I wouldn’t back us to beat burton if we don’t have our full team out - just think it’s all about doing whatever is best to be in the best shape possible for the play offs now -if we lose 5-0 against burton but have our first choice team available in the play offs, I’d take that 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,794
    GNelson said:
    Fully expecting Wycombe and Stockport to play out a boring draw.

    Unless we go crazy, a draw ensures they finish 3rd and 4th and both get home second legs. I really don't see either club pushing too much for a win.
    If I were Wycombe / Stockport I'd want to win (1) because you'll play the 6th placed team who are on paper a slightly easier opponent and (2) to take some momentum into the playoffs / put a marker down in case the two teams meet again in the final.

    Of course, if the game is level coming up to the end of the game I wouldn't be taking unnecessary risks to get the win.
    Yeah you'd think Wycombe will go for it - GD means that a loss or draw for them v Stockport means they'll play us in the play-offs whereas a win will see them play Orient or Reading (and guarantee their 2nd leg at home), so they haven't really got anything to lose ...Stockport would be happy with a draw as it guarantees them 3rd (assuming we don't win 7-0...!)
    Or, for example, 13-6. 
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,196
    I’d take a nice 13-6. 
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,494
    Any recommendations on where to watch the first legs in Margate? 
  • Steven81
    Steven81 Posts: 1,001
    edited May 1
    Jints said:
    Any recommendations on where to watch the first legs in Margate? 
    Dreamland,The big wheel on a smartphone with a nice bottle of diamond white could be fun.
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    Jints said:
    Any recommendations on where to watch the first legs in Margate? 
    I'm sure there have been legs in Margate before now (evolution and all that)...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,855
    Jints said:
    Any recommendations on where to watch the first legs in Margate? 
    Broadstairs?
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,470

    EFL clubs participating in this year’s Play-Offs will wear a specially designed sleeve badge featuring a red heart inspired by the iconic British Heart Foundation logo.

    Inscribed with the poignant 'Every Minute Matters' message, the badges will support the year-long campaign led by Sky Bet in partnership with the BHF, designed to equip football fans with the confidence and skills to perform CPR.

    https://www.efl.com/news/2025/may/01/efl-clubs-to-wear-hearts-on-their-sleeves/

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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,536
    edited May 1
    Jints said:
    Any recommendations on where to watch the first legs in Margate? 
    Broadstairs?
    The Tartar Frigate...🍺
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,678
    clive said:

    EFL clubs participating in this year’s Play-Offs will wear a specially designed sleeve badge featuring a red heart inspired by the iconic British Heart Foundation logo.

    Inscribed with the poignant 'Every Minute Matters' message, the badges will support the year-long campaign led by Sky Bet in partnership with the BHF, designed to equip football fans with the confidence and skills to perform CPR.

    https://www.efl.com/news/2025/may/01/efl-clubs-to-wear-hearts-on-their-sleeves/

    It’s only a matter of time before this turns into a Boy Scout event making sure you have all your badges
  • TootingRedArmy
    TootingRedArmy Posts: 391

    Who knows what team Jones will put out, but one thing’s for sure — he definitely won’t be saying “Don’t Panic!” My gut feeling is he’ll go strong from the start, probably leaving his namesake out, as Lloyd is such a crucial figure in how we play. Hopefully we can grab a couple of goals early on, then rest key players at half-time or early in the second half to keep them fresh.

    Honestly, I’m not too fussed about who we get in the semi-final or whether we play home or away first — it’s all about getting the job done over two legs. We’ve just got to find a way to win and book our ticket to Wembley. Then it’s game on again. I’m genuinely buzzing for Saturday. It’s been six long years since our last play-off adventure, and it’s brilliant to be in the mix again — no more mid-table drudgery!

  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,536
    From the OS ...regarding the Burton Game

    Asked for an update on the team news front, the gaffer said: "What I have to do now is prepare the squad so that we can have a successful play-off campaign. That's the most important thing, so whatever I do on the weekend will be geared to making sure that the team are right at it for the play-off games."

    Make of that what you will...🙄
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,196
    From the OS ...regarding the Burton Game

    Asked for an update on the team news front, the gaffer said: "What I have to do now is prepare the squad so that we can have a successful play-off campaign. That's the most important thing, so whatever I do on the weekend will be geared to making sure that the team are right at it for the play-off games."

    Make of that what you will...🙄
    Curtis Fleming is playing. 
  • charlton4ever
    charlton4ever Posts: 1,718
    Uboat said:
    From the OS ...regarding the Burton Game

    Asked for an update on the team news front, the gaffer said: "What I have to do now is prepare the squad so that we can have a successful play-off campaign. That's the most important thing, so whatever I do on the weekend will be geared to making sure that the team are right at it for the play-off games."

    Make of that what you will...🙄
    Curtis Fleming is playing. 
    What? The bloke from The Fast Show?

  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,252
    edited May 1
    From the OS ...regarding the Burton Game

    Asked for an update on the team news front, the gaffer said: "What I have to do now is prepare the squad so that we can have a successful play-off campaign. That's the most important thing, so whatever I do on the weekend will be geared to making sure that the team are right at it for the play-off games."

    Make of that what you will...🙄
    It means whoever the walking wounded are will not be playing.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,022
    edited May 2
    From the OS ...regarding the Burton Game

    Asked for an update on the team news front, the gaffer said: "What I have to do now is prepare the squad so that we can have a successful play-off campaign. That's the most important thing, so whatever I do on the weekend will be geared to making sure that the team are right at it for the play-off games."

    Make of that what you will...🙄
    Basically players with slight injuries or knocks won't be needlessly risked, but everyone else will start.

    I get people wanting to rest the entire first XI, but we still want to win the game in case there is a winner in the Wycombe match and we then get top 4.

    Also i think he'll want to get morale back up after Wrexham and keep the players sharp heading into the play offs so resting everyone so it'll then be 2 weeks between Wrexham and the first leg, could potentially have a negative effect. Resting everyone and heading into the play offs on the back of a 2-0 home defeat doesn't do us any good.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,077
    You also want to keep players in rhythm and keep their match fitness
  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,791
    Anyone else have prior engagements on the 10th? Daughters birthday so desperate to finish 3rd or 4th
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    fenaddick said:
    Put out a fairly strong team, get ahead and take players off after 60 mins. That will be the plan I think 
    And what happens if we are 2-0 down like we were against Lincoln ?  Carry on with those players or sub them anyway?  If you sub them anyway then you might well as not played them in the first place. If you want to win the game and you carry on with them then they might get injured or they wont get rested.

    We are in the play offs. We can really only get 4th or 5th. Burton are now safe. The game has the hallmarks of a pre-season friendly.

    I say rest the majority of the team & play the fringe players & the youth. If we hadn't "streamlined" the squad in January you could put out a decent 2nd 11. You reap what you sow Nathan. 
    Only if you rate Edun, Potts, REG, Allan Campbell and Taylor. Even if you do, they’d have barely have had any game time and wouldn’t be match fit.

    The squad was big and we  haven’t missed those five. The bigger problem was not bringing in a pacey wide player or two, which we know we tried to do.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,461
    It's a fine balance.
    He'll want to get match minutes in the legs of those on the periphery or returning from injury.
    I think we're going to need them at some point.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Scoham said:
    fenaddick said:
    Put out a fairly strong team, get ahead and take players off after 60 mins. That will be the plan I think 
    And what happens if we are 2-0 down like we were against Lincoln ?  Carry on with those players or sub them anyway?  If you sub them anyway then you might well as not played them in the first place. If you want to win the game and you carry on with them then they might get injured or they wont get rested.

    We are in the play offs. We can really only get 4th or 5th. Burton are now safe. The game has the hallmarks of a pre-season friendly.

    I say rest the majority of the team & play the fringe players & the youth. If we hadn't "streamlined" the squad in January you could put out a decent 2nd 11. You reap what you sow Nathan. 
    Only if you rate Edun, Potts, REG, Allan Campbell and Taylor. Even if you do, they’d have barely have had any game time and wouldn’t be match fit.

    The squad was big and we  haven’t missed those five. The bigger problem was not bringing in a pacey wide player or two, which we know we tried to do.
    That’s one interpretation. The other is adding to the squad meaningfully in January ie replace not reduce. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,380
    Scoham said:
    fenaddick said:
    Put out a fairly strong team, get ahead and take players off after 60 mins. That will be the plan I think 
    And what happens if we are 2-0 down like we were against Lincoln ?  Carry on with those players or sub them anyway?  If you sub them anyway then you might well as not played them in the first place. If you want to win the game and you carry on with them then they might get injured or they wont get rested.

    We are in the play offs. We can really only get 4th or 5th. Burton are now safe. The game has the hallmarks of a pre-season friendly.

    I say rest the majority of the team & play the fringe players & the youth. If we hadn't "streamlined" the squad in January you could put out a decent 2nd 11. You reap what you sow Nathan. 
    Only if you rate Edun, Potts, REG, Allan Campbell and Taylor. Even if you do, they’d have barely have had any game time and wouldn’t be match fit.

    The squad was big and we  haven’t missed those five. The bigger problem was not bringing in a pacey wide player or two, which we know we tried to do.
    That’s one interpretation. The other is adding to the squad meaningfully in January ie replace not reduce. 
    I think we needed to reduce, but add in Z Mitchell and Asiimwe and we had 7 outs and 2 ins. We know we wanted 1 more, and while you could argue that could have been 1 more on top of that, we didn't need to replace all 7.
  • Louis Mendez saying there's a good chance the play-off dates might be moved as Notts County can't play at home on the same day as Forest. BBC Sport website currently saying we're playing at Wycombe on Sunday at 1830.
  • NorthheathAddick
    NorthheathAddick Posts: 4,018

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    On Sky I assume?
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,077
    On Sky I assume?
    All play off games on Sky, it’s why they don’t kick off at the same time either