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POST-MATCH THREAD: Wrexham v Charlton Athletic: Saturday 26th April 2025: KO 17:30

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  • DDOUBLEE said:
    I repeat boringly for the thousandth time
    Footballing wise we are in by far the worst period in our history 
    at the same time our local rivals are having the best times in their history a triple shitshow all hitting the fan at once 
    if you're not (football wise) fuming at all times then you're living in cloud cuckoo land 
    third tier fuck off , shameful times 
    Palace get to watch Eze, we’re forced to watch Karoy Anderson
    And that is mostly a pleasure. If the team loses it is rarely one player's fault. Have you heard football is a team game?
    A pleasure??? Really?
  • A bit of credit to Phil Parkinson - his sixth promotion. One of our few ex managers who has done well after leaving us.

    Curious if the Wrexham owners will stick with him if next sesson doesn't go well. A big step up for their squad which has quite a few aging players.


    Are we the only club he’s failed at?
    He got us into the playoffs with a terrible squad. Powell couldn't do anything with the squad he inherited - a lot of our fans forget that. We finished 13th in the season Powell took over.


    Relegated and failed to get us promoted. Awful football to go with it. That’s a failure, not a debate. 
  • boggzy said:
    This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds. 

    How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.

    I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.

    Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
    Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him on
  • boggzy said:
    This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds. 

    How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.

    I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.

    Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
    What do you think the lino got from the deal?
    No idea.

    Just can't see how the hell that wasn't flagged for blatant off-side.
  • The lino was definitely behind play a couple of times, so we had no confidence in him getting offside decisions right.
  • JamesSeed said:
    Golfie is part of the CL furniture as far as I’m concerned. Don’t know why people seem intent on driving him away. I hardly ever agree with him, but he offers a different perspective at very least. 
    He’s the one who said he would stop supporting Charlton if we sold Alfie May…
    We all say things in the heat of the moment from time to time.
  • I repeat boringly for the thousandth time
    Footballing wise we are in by far the worst period in our history 
    at the same time our local rivals are having the best times in their history a triple shitshow all hitting the fan at once 
    if you're not (football wise) fuming at all times then you're living in cloud cuckoo land 
    third tier fuck off , shameful times 
    I’m exhausted just imagining that.
    I’d be a lot less exhausted if only we were just imagining it 
  • boggzy said:
    This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds. 

    How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.

    I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.

    Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
    Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him on
    From memory I think Anderson was deeper than Ramsey.
  • boggzy said:
    This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds. 

    How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.

    I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.

    Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
    Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him on
    From memory I think Anderson was deeper than Ramsey.
    That was the 2nd goal 
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  • Jones might also be playing him on, I’m putting that down to his injury and not being at full speed
  • fenaddick said:
    This is the pass for the corner for the first goal, he’s onside because Ramsay is sitting deeper than everyone else. It’s one of the few things Ramsay has struggled with as RCB, he is often found a yard behind the other 2 CBs


    Bloodyhell, only saw it from the stand, and the angle on the "highlights", fair enough.
  • boggzy said:
    This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds. 

    How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.

    I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.

    Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
    Smith wasnt offside for the run that led to the first goal, they showed the angle behind the defence, and Ramsay was playing him on
    As above!
  • Just seen the video of dobbo and Wrexham players signing they hate Chester yet all live near or in Chester…that’s not going to end well next time they’re in there 
  • boggzy said:
    boggzy said:
    This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds. 

    How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.

    I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.

    Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
    What do you think the lino got from the deal?
    No idea.

    Just can't see how the hell that wasn't flagged for blatant off-side.
    So you think a lino has cheated, you have no idea how or what the incentive might have been?
  • We got done by Wrexham, get over it and move on, it was always the most likely outcome. 
  • boggzy said:
    boggzy said:
    This is what pissed me off - just watch the first ten seconds. 

    How the hell has the lino not flagged for off-side. The corner from that resulted in the first goal.

    I think (I'd had a beer) that this was the second time this had happened in as many minutes.

    Not that it would have changed the result but if that isn't blatant cheating from the lino, I'm not sure what is.

    https://www.skysports.com/football/video/30998/13356558/wrexham-promoted-to-championship-wrexham-3-0-charlton-athletic
    What do you think the lino got from the deal?
    No idea.

    Just can't see how the hell that wasn't flagged for blatant off-side.
    So you think a lino has cheated, you have no idea how or what the incentive might have been?
    No. Because I don't know what goes on on the inside of the football world, apart from the fact that there is a ridiculous amount of money involved. Do you?
  • andipandi said:
    We got done by Wrexham, get over it and move on, it was always the most likely outcome. 
    This is very true.
  • andipandi said:
    We got done by Wrexham, get over it and move on, it was always the most likely outcome. 
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  • edited April 28
    Ramsay, as good as he is with his recovery pace, appears to be a work in progress at holding a defensive line. Wrexham picked up on it and used it to their advantage, twice.

    I highly suspect other teams will try following suit over the playoffs.

    This might be the time to, given Small’s absence, play a couple of games with Alex Mitchell at RCB (who should be more positionally aware) and move Ramsay to RWB in place of Tennai.
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  • edited April 28
    If you want to press high and be aggressive without the ball (we are at our best when we do this), then you need to have a defence that can cope with this. 

    That means you need players good in the air to deal with long balls over your press (Jones and Gillesphey), you also need recovery pace (Ramsay) for a ball over the top. And you need excellent 1v1 defender for if a team plays through your press and ends up in a 3v3 or similar situation (Ramsay). Ramsay playing RCB is vital to the way we play and allows us to press high and be aggressive without being too vulnerable at the back. Swapping Alex Mitchell in for him changes everything and makes us a lot more vulnerable to teams with pace up front or teams that can play through our press 
  • Edward’s look like he’s deep there too. 
  • Just seen the video of dobbo and Wrexham players signing they hate Chester yet all live near or in Chester…that’s not going to end well next time they’re in there 
    It was quite weird after the game to hear Wrexham fans singing "Chester's a sh*thole, I wanna go home" after getting off at Chester station.

    I notice Chester FC are in the National North playoffs. Must be a nightmare running that club, when not only do you have the Merseyside clubs who've traditionally taken most of the fanbase, but now have Wrexham as well.
  • Ramsay, as good as he is with his recovery pace, appears to be a work in progress at holding a defensive line. Wrexham picked up on it and used it to their advantage, twice.

    I highly suspect other teams will try following suit over the playoffs.

    This might be the time to, given Small’s absence, play a couple of games with Alex Mitchell at RCB (who should be more positionally aware) and move Ramsay to RWB in place of Tennai.
    Are there other examples of that being a weakness in Ramsay’s game? I don’t remember anyone picking up on it before, but I might have missed it. I think that RCB/RB role suits him more than RWB does and overall it’s worked really well.
  • Scoham said:
    Ramsay, as good as he is with his recovery pace, appears to be a work in progress at holding a defensive line. Wrexham picked up on it and used it to their advantage, twice.

    I highly suspect other teams will try following suit over the playoffs.

    This might be the time to, given Small’s absence, play a couple of games with Alex Mitchell at RCB (who should be more positionally aware) and move Ramsay to RWB in place of Tennai.
    Are there other examples of that being a weakness in Ramsay’s game? I don’t remember anyone picking up on it before, but I might have missed it. I think that RCB/RB role suits him more than RWB does and overall it’s worked really well.
    Happens a lot but rarely gets punished. First half of the Cambridge game I was in line with our natural defensive line and he was always the last man back. By that point it had happened enough for me to decide to keep an eye on it. Really it’s pretty good going that it’s his only consistent flaw in a new position 
  • Chester is a lovely town by the way.
    I've been to all the current 92 apart from Harrogate and Barrow and I can't think of a better town north of Watford that I've been to.
  • Chester is a lovely town by the way.
    I've been to all the current 92 apart from Harrogate and Barrow and I can't think of a better town north of Watford that I've been to.
    Harrogate edges Chester IMO
  • Talk about missing the point. 

    The two teams that have spent the most are up.
    The marquee signing of January ripped us a new one. All there is to it. 

    There will always be anomalies (Huddersfield/Reading), that's what happens when multiple teams spend a lot, they can't all be succesful, but when it's all said and done, over time, cash wins. Always will. 

    You think Leeds and Burnley have gone up through good spirits and a chicken George van, have a word.




    No I think you’re right. Generally the clubs that spend the most tend to do the best.

    What I don’t get is all the catastrophising over a defeat to a team who’ve proved themselves to be second to only Birmingham over the course of 46 games.

    We are what, 2.3, 2.4 points per game since January? Are we really focusing on yesterday’s one off loss when the real thing that killed us was our Oct/Nov/Dec form before the window?

    The same people who came out of January saying we hadn’t strengthened enough to maintain a playoff push are the same ones now disappointed that we haven’t taken automatics to the last day of the season.

    Think people are looking in the wrong places. The problem isn’t losing at Wrexham in April. It’s losing at Bristol Rovers, at Exeter, at home to Crawley…
    My post was more aimed at Fenaddick tbf. 

    I am focused on the Wrexham loss yes as it's fresh and extremely disappointing. It was extremely difficult to be on the wrong end of such a one way beating by a club who were in the National League in 22/23 and have been averaging crowds of 4k or so for about 20 years. To be done over like that was sickening.

    For anyone saying 2nd was a pipe dream etc, it wasn't, if we had beaten them it would have come down to the final day. Instead we didn't rise to the occasion and now there's a bit of concern about the impact. 

    Those losses you mentioned earlier on may not have happened if we had more players of a higher quality. 

    I just hope we go up cause I genuinely don't think I can do another league 1 tour, especially after hearing all the whispers of losing TC, Small etc. These rebuilds are horrendous. 

    A rebuild is far easier in the league above where players want to play championship football compared to this pants league. Unless of course you do what those two have done and pay over the odds. 

    Rant over, hope they turn up in the play-offs cause that was genuinely as bad as any performance this season, regardless of how well drilled the opposition were. 


    That was then, the current Wrexham sell out 12k every match and have commercial income (as per my post above) most Championship clubs can only dream of.

    They have United Airlines on the front of their shirt and Meta Quest, i.e. one of Mark Zuckerberg's companies, on the back. Ludicrous sponsors for this level, paying big bucks to be associated with the feelgood TV show. Money which enables them to bring in the likes of Sam Smith.
    Exactly. That's my point.

    It was extremely difficult to watch a club who were without being rude, nothing, non-league, only 5 years ago, to turning us over and securing promotion. All the talk was about them, we were just an extra, a non-entity billed as underdogs.

    The half and half scarves, the build up of the game at the Valley, and then this.

    Their average attendance was just 4k in 19/20.

    So it's not really a case of "that was then". It's still very recent, they were a national league side in 2022/23. 

    To see a club overtake us in such a short span of time, while also seeing what is meant to be our rivals secure a FA cup final, and the others make serious strides towards a championship play-off place, was genuinely vomit worthy. 

    I'm at a point where I'm cheering on an oil club to stop a club that is so far ahead of us from lifting a trophy, and hoping our ex- Snake of a player, Scott Parkers team turns over our rivals just to not lose any more credit. 

    There's a scenario that exists where we lose the play-offs, Palace win an FA cup, and Millwall will be in the play-offs. 

    Dreadful.
    It reads like you need to take a step back and get a bit of perspective in what is really important in life.

    Charlton are a massive part of my life and always will be, but at the end of the day if it’s making you so unhappy & stressed, then you need to remind yourself it’s only a game.
    What a disappointing and patronising post.

    The fact multiple people have liked it bothers me even more. 

    Even if you didn't heavily misinterpret my post, a personal post like that would have been best suited to a DM, not a public message. If you truly thought it was bothering me to a point where I should take a break from Charlton (implied), a personal message would have been more appropriate.

    You are correct though, I do need to take a step back, but it's definitely not from Charlton.
    To clarify I was referring to you feeling the need to rant on CL at 1.56am as you appeared to be so wound up. All the best.
  • Chester is a lovely town by the way.
    I've been to all the current 92 apart from Harrogate and Barrow and I can't think of a better town north of Watford that I've been to.
    Harrogate edges Chester IMO
    It definitely edges Barrow too (unless you like submarines!)

    Chester is indeed a lovely place, stunning architecture in the centre. The new station tap pub at the station is a welcome addition too.
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