On top of the ticket office closed to personal callers on either Tuesday or Wednesday this week, apparently calls were not being taken from 14.00 today. How many staff do we have working there?
The bare minimum and not just the ticket office in my opinion
Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints.
If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats. I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us).
Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints.
If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats. I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us).
This. The stadium holds 90,000. So let the paying fans have a chance of buying those 90,000 tickets.
Seems such a shame to have people missing out when there’s empty sections
Are there charlton fans still missing out? I don't know of any personally. Maybe if you're after a few seats together or concessions, it's harder but surely if you aint fussy and want to go, fingers crossed you will go
Yes I still know of a group of 4 waiting on the club database phase to resume 2 adults and 2 kids will be difficult to obtain as a group together.
On top of the ticket office closed to personal callers on either Tuesday or Wednesday this week, apparently calls were not being taken from 14.00 today. How many staff do we have working there?
The bear minimum and not just the ticket office in my opinion
Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints.
If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats. I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us).
If we ever do make it to the championship and find ourselves in this situation again, we will likely be playing a bigger club who will easily sell out their allocation. Worth remembering that.
There would be no thousands of extras if we were playing the likes of West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich etc.
If we ever do make it to the championship and find ourselves in this situation again, we will likely be playing a bigger club who will easily sell out their allocation. Worth remembering that.
There would be no thousands of extras if we were playing the likes of West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich etc.
But there seemingly aren’t thousands of extras now !
Surely the club can only communicate if there is something to communicate?
Or are people suggesting the club should issue a daily update that there is no update?
Given the fact its now Friday afternoon and the game is Sunday, it's more about comms from the club putting pressure on Wembley/EFL, even if there is no update
Nothing to lose from the club by putting public pressure on Wembley.
I am fairly certain the club are putting as much pressure as they can on Wembley to try to get more tickets.
You have more faith in that happening than I do.
I was told today, from a reliable source who would know, that we have asked at least three times since the last batch sold out yesterday but the EFL are not agreeing to our requests.
I'm not buying that the approval of any requests is made by the EFL though? Seems far more likely to be a police decision. Why would the EFL care if we have 5k more tickets?
Look at the City-Forest cup semi final this season, City had about 5k tickets unsold and Forest wanted them. Not allowed. That wasn't the EFL.
City v Liverpool 3 years ago, had thousands unsold. Liverpool weren't allowed any more tickets (but nothing to do with the EFL) and on the day part of the City section in the upper tier looked like this:
If we ever do make it to the championship and find ourselves in this situation again, we will likely be playing a bigger club who will easily sell out their allocation. Worth remembering that.
There would be no thousands of extras if we were playing the likes of West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich etc.
Sunderland are bigger than all of those clubs and we got part of their allocation last time.
Sad reality is the EFL will learn the wrong lesson from this. They won’t think it needs to be better organised. They’ll think there was so much demand the tickets should’ve been more expensive
Of course if the ground is effectively full come Sunday there can be few complaints.
If 70,000 seats, plus unknowns such as Corporates have been sold, there is likely to be 15,000 empty seats. I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us).
In 2007 when the stadium first opened Club Wembley and the EFL couldn't reach an agreement on extending ticket sales - so Club Wembley seats were held exclusively for Club Wembley members.
So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation.
No on par with 2019
Which suggests there is no conspiracy. There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.
It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy.
So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation.
No on par with 2019
Which suggests there is no conspiracy. There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.
It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy.
Attendance back in 2019 was over 76,000 in which Charlton had over 38,000 that afternoon
I used to have a soft spot for Orient as my Grandad supported them before the 2nd World War. Uncle Adolf decided to bomb London and I ended being born in Chelsfield.
I have a lot to thank Uncle Adolf for despite his faults.
But on a serious note fuck Orient I hope we smash the pricks.
So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation.
No on par with 2019
Which suggests there is no conspiracy. There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.
It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy.
Attendance back in 2019 was over 76,000 in which Charlton had over 38,000 that afternoon
By a few thousand. Which is exactly my point. Wembley will reallocate a few blocks if one club doesn’t sell out, but they’ll only reallocate significant amounts of tickets if one club sells under 20/15,000. Which looks to be the case if you look back at various play-off finals.
On top of the ticket office closed to personal callers on either Tuesday or Wednesday this week, apparently calls were not being taken from 14.00 today. How many staff do we have working there?
The bare minimum and not just the ticket office in my opinion
I do not know the numbers but we'd probably shocked at how many are full time Monday to Friday.
Clearly they don't like reapportioning certain areas of the stadium from one club to another. Maybe it's down to how the concourses and entrances are laid out?
So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation.
No on par with 2019
Which suggests there is no conspiracy. There is clearly a threshold where it becomes viable for one of the two clubs to get a significant increase in tickets. And you work back from 90,000 to included segregation / hospitality etc. where both clubs initially get 38,000. I reckon if one club sells under 20/15,000 that is when you see 10k tickets being reallocated to the other club. But if both clubs sell over 20-25,000 reallocation becomes harder to do, beyond a few blocks.
It’s up to clubs how fans can buy tickets. The likes of Sheffield United & Sunderland probably had more restrictions on how many tickets individuals can buy.
Attendance back in 2019 was over 76,000 in which Charlton had over 38,000 that afternoon
By a few thousand. Which is exactly my point. Wembley will reallocate a few blocks if one club doesn’t sell out, but they’ll only reallocate significant amounts of tickets if one club sells under 20/15,000. Which looks to be the case if you look back at various play-off finals.
If you are correct (and I have no reason to challenge you) the club could have said from the start we only get more if Orient sell less than x number.
So are we going to end up with a smaller allocation than 2019 when we played against a much bigger club? It’s a really bizarre situation.
I know I have said it before(and yes I know I'm a boring little c***), but if we'd had personal callers last Saturday and Sunday I'd strongly suggest we'd have shifted a lot more tickets. This, in that we'd have potentially sold out by Tuesday and Wembley could have released more.
I can foresee on Sunday that Charlton fans will be looking at many blocks of seats that could have been released and they'd be upset having friends and family that could have gone.
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I don't ever recall a situation where an event has chosen to leave 15,000 empty seats (although I feel someone is about to tell us).
I meant if the only obviously empty seats are the 6k unsold for Orient it would be reasonable.
But we likely will see other areas never made available.
There would be no thousands of extras if we were playing the likes of West Brom, Norwich, Ipswich etc.
Look at the City-Forest cup semi final this season, City had about 5k tickets unsold and Forest wanted them. Not allowed. That wasn't the EFL.
City v Liverpool 3 years ago, had thousands unsold. Liverpool weren't allowed any more tickets (but nothing to do with the EFL) and on the day part of the City section in the upper tier looked like this:
That's the dumbest one I can think of.
Championship and League 2 finals below.
Sunderland v Wycombe 3 years ago
Uncle Adolf decided to bomb London and I ended being born in Chelsfield.
I have a lot to thank Uncle Adolf for despite his faults.
But on a serious note fuck Orient I hope we smash the pricks.
I do not know the numbers but we'd probably shocked at how many are full time Monday to Friday.
We don’t need to be given updates.