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Our current player valuations?

BensonFC
BensonFC Posts: 411
edited June 2012 in General Charlton
To start, can I state that I don't want many, if any, of our players to leave this Summer.

But say a big club comes offering for them.
What would you value our players at and at what price would you let them go?

I'd be interested in what people think about the following.

Hamer-750k
Sullivan-100k
Solly-4 million
Cort-500k
Taylor-250k
Morrison-1.5 million
Wiggins-3.5 million
Green-500k
Wagstaff-500k
Stephens-500k
Hollands-750k
Pritchard-500k
Jackson-500k
BWP-1.5 million
Kermorgant-4 million
Hayes- 350k
Haynes-500k

I'm probably way off the mark with these minimums, but what would your opinion be?
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  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,255
    i would agree with most of them but i think jackson would be worth a bit more maybe closer to the 1 million mark and wiggins probably not quite as mush as 3.5 million, imo he would be closer to 2 million
  • Tewkesbury_Addick
    Tewkesbury_Addick Posts: 627
    No way would we get 4 Million for Kermorgant! He's quality, yes, but most clubs would see his past record and age ad go closer to 1 million. I think we could get more for Stephens as well considering he is still 22
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Love kermorgant but no way would we get 4 mill for him.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    In my opinion, most of these estimations are way off the mark. Just for the fun of it I have done my own, please feel free to pick them apart.

    Hamer-400k
    Sullivan
    Solly-1.8m
    Cort
    Taylor-150k
    Morrison-800k
    Wiggins-1m
    Green-400k
    Wagstaff-200k
    Stephens-700k
    Hollands-800k
    Pritchard-250k
    Jackson-700k
    BWP- 800k
    Kermorgant-1m
    Hayes
    Haynes
  • BensonFC
    BensonFC Posts: 411
    In my opinion, most of these estimations are way off the mark. Just for the fun of it I have done my own, please feel free to pick them apart.

    Hamer-400k
    Sullivan
    Solly-1.8m
    Cort
    Taylor-150k
    Morrison-800k
    Wiggins-1m
    Green-400k
    Wagstaff-200k
    Stephens-700k
    Hollands-800k
    Pritchard-250k
    Jackson-700k
    BWP- 800k
    Kermorgant-1m
    Hayes
    Haynes
    Mine were my 'minimum release fees'. Yours seem more actual value
  • Oriental_Addick
    Oriental_Addick Posts: 1,003
    Hamer - 1M
    Sullivan - N/A
    Solly - 2.5M
    Cort - N/A
    Taylor - 500K
    Morrison - 1.5M
    Wiggins - 2.5M
    Green - 1M
    Wagstaff - 1M
    Stephens - 1M
    Hollands - 1.5M
    Pritchard - 250K
    Jackson - 1.5M
    BWP - 2M
    Kermorgant -1M
    Hayes - 250K
    Haynes - 500K
  • MattD
    MattD Posts: 1,530
    1m for hamer, as if
  • Tewkesbury_Addick
    Tewkesbury_Addick Posts: 627
    1m for hamer, as if
    Yeah no way would we get 1 million for a 24 year old keeper who kept 20 clean sheets last year...
  • Oriental_Addick
    Oriental_Addick Posts: 1,003
    1m for hamer, as if
    24 years old, tall, commanding, excellent shot stopper, fantastic distribution, strong character, best years way ahead of him.

    I don't think 1m is too far wide of the mark. Anyway, I really rate him.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,587
    Hamer - 1M
    Sullivan - N/A
    Solly - 2.5M
    Cort - N/A
    Taylor - 500K
    Morrison - 1.5M
    Wiggins - 2.5M
    Green - 1M
    Wagstaff - 1M
    Stephens - 1M
    Hollands - 1.5M
    Pritchard - 250K
    Jackson - 1.5M
    BWP - 2M
    Kermorgant -1M
    Hayes - 250K
    Haynes - 500K
    Think Green and Wagstaff very much wishful thinking - £500k each, Hollands maybe £750kHamer £500k, Morrison £1m, Jackson £550k

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,079
    ... Mine were my 'minimum release fees'. Yours seem more actual value
    Not sure I understand the difference here. Surely the value is the amount you'd expect them to be sold for and the price of an equivalent replacement, therefore the price you start thinking, hmmm.
  • Oriental_Addick
    Oriental_Addick Posts: 1,003
    edited June 2012
    Hamer - 1M
    Sullivan - N/A
    Solly - 2.5M
    Cort - N/A
    Taylor - 500K
    Morrison - 1.5M
    Wiggins - 2.5M
    Green - 1M
    Wagstaff - 1M
    Stephens - 1M
    Hollands - 1.5M
    Pritchard - 250K
    Jackson - 1.5M
    BWP - 2M
    Kermorgant -1M
    Hayes - 250K
    Haynes - 500K
    Think Green and Wagstaff very much wishful thinking - £500k each, Hollands maybe £750kHamer £500k, Morrison £1m, Jackson £550k
    Part of the question was, 'what price would you let them [the players] go'.

    Personally, I would not be inclined to sell two bright young prospects such as Wagstaff and Green for under 1M, and I don't think the club would be listening either. The 1M figure might get representatives sat round a table negotiating, hence the figure.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,437
    edited June 2012
    Hamer - 1M
    Sullivan - N/A
    Solly - 2.5M
    Cort - N/A
    Taylor - 500K
    Morrison - 1.5M
    Wiggins - 2.5M
    Green - 1M
    Wagstaff - 1M
    Stephens - 1M
    Hollands - 1.5M
    Pritchard - 250K
    Jackson - 1.5M
    BWP - 2M
    Kermorgant -1M
    Hayes - 250K
    Haynes - 500K
    Think Green and Wagstaff very much wishful thinking - £500k each, Hollands maybe £750kHamer £500k, Morrison £1m, Jackson £550k
    Depends what way you look at it. I wouldn't sell Jackson or Hamer for £500k to £1m, but I doubt anyone would pay more than that for them.
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,528
    edited June 2012
    Hamer-750k
    Sullivan-50k
    Solly-3.5 million
    Cort-300k
    Taylor-250k
    Morrison-1.5 million
    Wiggins-2 million
    Green-400k
    Wagstaff-300k
    Stephens-500k
    Hollands-500k
    Pritchard-400k
    Jackson-700k
    BWP-1.1 million
    Kermorgant-1 million
    Hayes- 75k
    Haynes-250k
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,652
    I fear we are being very very optomistic with those valuations.
  • StrikerFirmani
    StrikerFirmani Posts: 2,744
    Hamer-250k young so hopefully will get better, his price tag could well increase considerably.
    Sullivan-Nothing
    Solly-1million but if he has a good season in the Championship, will increase 2-2.5M with add on's
    Cort- Nothing age against fee.
    Taylor- Nothing age against fee.
    Morrison- 250K could rise if he proves himself in the Championship
    Wiggins-500K-1million but if he gets Welsh recognition then that will rise to 2- 2.5M
    Green-50-100K undisclosed type of deal
    Wagstaff- 50-100K undisclosed type of deal
    Stephens-150k Young player who as potential to be worth more.
    Hollands-250k good fee even for league 1 but value could increase with same performances in the Championship.
    Pritchard-100k Will need to prove at this level for value to increase.
    Jackson-150k Worth more to us than his possible transfer value.
    BWP- 250K Would increase if he has a goal scoring season again, past medical history restricts.
    Kermorgant-500K until he does it in the Championship, then is likely to increase by quite a bit.
    Hayes- 50-75k undisclosed to lower league.
    Haynes-100-200k Providing he has a good season in the Championship.
  • Woodsywood
    Woodsywood Posts: 991
    In my opinion, most of these estimations are way off the mark. Just for the fun of it I have done my own, please feel free to pick them apart.

    Hamer-400k
    Sullivan
    Solly-1.8m
    Cort
    Taylor-150k
    Morrison-800k
    Wiggins-1m
    Green-400k
    Wagstaff-200k
    Stephens-700k
    Hollands-800k
    Pritchard-250k
    Jackson-700k
    BWP- 800k
    Kermorgant-1m
    Hayes
    Haynes
    This are more releastic
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,730
    Hamer - 1M
    Sullivan - N/A
    Solly - 2.5M
    Cort - N/A
    Taylor - 500K
    Morrison - 1.5M
    Wiggins - 2.5M
    Green - 1M
    Wagstaff - 1M
    Stephens - 1M
    Hollands - 1.5M
    Pritchard - 250K
    Jackson - 1.5M
    BWP - 2M
    Kermorgant -1M
    Hayes - 250K
    Haynes - 500K

    Green worth four times as much as pritch?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,652
    Hamer - 350k
    Sullivan - 0
    Solly - 1.3 million
    Cort - 0
    Taylor - 100k
    Morrison - 500k
    Wiggins - 1.3 million
    Green - 250k
    Wagstaff - 175k
    Stephens - 350k
    Hollands - 400k
    Pritchard - 100k
    Jackson - 450k
    BWP - 1.0 million
    Kermorgant - 750k
    Hayes - 125k
    Haynes - 150k

    Bit more realistic IMHO.










  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,827
    Some of those prices are lower than what we paid for them last summer. Bizarre.

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,771
    They do well in the Championship and the values will really soar.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,587
    Hamer - 1M
    Sullivan - N/A
    Solly - 2.5M
    Cort - N/A
    Taylor - 500K
    Morrison - 1.5M
    Wiggins - 2.5M
    Green - 1M
    Wagstaff - 1M
    Stephens - 1M
    Hollands - 1.5M
    Pritchard - 250K
    Jackson - 1.5M
    BWP - 2M
    Kermorgant -1M
    Hayes - 250K
    Haynes - 500K
    Think Green and Wagstaff very much wishful thinking - £500k each, Hollands maybe £750kHamer £500k, Morrison £1m, Jackson £550k
    Part of the question was, 'what price would you let them [the players] go'.

    Personally, I would not be inclined to sell two bright young prospects such as Wagstaff and Green for under 1M, and I don't think the club would be listening either. The 1M figure might get representatives sat round a table negotiating, hence the figure.
    Sorry I was saying what I believe they are worth. Having said that I don't think either Green or Wagstaff are critical to the team next season ansd would happily see them go for £500k and see better players come in for that or that plus £500k.

    In reality, if we can get better players in then no one is irreplaceable. Improve the squad and the incumbents can go at whatever fee, but the decision to sell should be ours.
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,286
    Some of those prices are lower than what we paid for them last summer. Bizarre.
    I thought most of our were undisclosed?
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    Good thread ,interesting debate .At the end of the day a player is worth what another club is willing to pay .I think the new fair play regulations will attract more swap deals so some values remain 'undisclosed'.

    Hamer-£1M Young Goalie voted top in L1 ,lots of games behind him with Crawley ,Brentford and Exeter before us.
    Sullivan- £100k Suspect he may go on loan next season in which case he will be free next summer
    Solly-£2 Million as he is starting to build a reputation ,it could go higher
    Cort- Nominal fee
    Taylor- £200K ,could be bait if we go for another L1 player.
    Morrison- £500K Potentially higher if he continues to do well for us
    Wiggins-£2Million ,as said above a Welsh Cap would add around a Million to that
    Green-£200K Another one who could be good bait to the likes of Colchester ,he hasn't lost value since his move last summer.
    Wagstaff- £200K Same as Green
    Stephens-500K Worth more than last summer.
    Hollands-£1MK Being left footed would add a little bit to his value. Another one who could go higher if he steps up in the CCC.
    Pritchard-£200K Could grow in value this season.
    Jackson-£750k Would be worth more ,but has injury problems.Like Hollands his wand of a left foot would add to his value
    BWP- £500K Injury problems limit value ,we have managed him well over the last 18 months.
    Kermorgant-£1.5M Will increase with a good season ,is contracted for a further 2 years .
    Hayes- £250 - 500k. A good L1 striker with a proven record at that level ,could be good bait to get Wordsworth from Colchester.
    Haynes-150k Probably not added to his value since joining
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,761
    Hamer seems to be one of the most varying. I think 1mill really isn't far off as we paid 1m to Bury 10 or more years ago for an older goalkeeper who had just kept approximately the same number of clean sheets in league 1. Let's hope Hamer has got it in him to become the next Deano!
  • Oriental_Addick
    Oriental_Addick Posts: 1,003
    A good start to the Championship season and our players will be worth a lot more.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,671
    You have to allow for the "discount because they play for Charlton factor" and therefore, although there are inevitably some I question, Richard J's list is roughly how I see it.
  • Addickted4life
    Addickted4life Posts: 7,467
    Good thread ,interesting debate .At the end of the day a player is worth what another club is willing to pay .I think the new fair play regulations will attract more swap deals so some values remain 'undisclosed'.

    Hamer-£1M Young Goalie voted top in L1 ,lots of games behind him with Crawley ,Brentford and Exeter before us.
    Sullivan- £100k Suspect he may go on loan next season in which case he will be free next summer
    Solly-£2 Million as he is starting to build a reputation ,it could go higher
    Cort- Nominal fee
    Taylor- £200K ,could be bait if we go for another L1 player.
    Morrison- £500K Potentially higher if he continues to do well for us
    Wiggins-£2Million ,as said above a Welsh Cap would add around a Million to that
    Green-£200K Another one who could be good bait to the likes of Colchester ,he hasn't lost value since his move last summer.
    Wagstaff- £200K Same as Green
    Stephens-500K Worth more than last summer.
    Hollands-£1MK Being left footed would add a little bit to his value. Another one who could go higher if he steps up in the CCC.
    Pritchard-£200K Could grow in value this season.
    Jackson-£750k Would be worth more ,but has injury problems.Like Hollands his wand of a left foot would add to his value
    BWP- £500K Injury problems limit value ,we have managed him well over the last 18 months.
    Kermorgant-£1.5M Will increase with a good season ,is contracted for a further 2 years .
    Hayes- £250 - 500k. A good L1 striker with a proven record at that level ,could be good bait to get Wordsworth from Colchester.
    Haynes-150k Probably not added to his value since joining
    THIS
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    I can't understand how so many people have player valuations at lower than what we paid! Like a few others have said, they're only worth what others will pay and these prices are rising for several of our squad!
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,786
    Kermorgant: Priceless.....................

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