Championship Away fans 2012/13
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Needs to be correlated with the average distance travelled to be a fair comparison.
Not that I'm doing it of course.0 -
Fair analysis.Richard J said:
Like others I have travelled away on and off since the 80's.Clearly more London derbies would boost the average.
My reason for not going more often is partly financial I don't get my act together in time for the cheapest train tickets and also time based a trip north takes out a whole Saturday and most of the evening as well .I like to do this maybe 3 or 4 times a season.
If Palace don't go up next season might be slightly better logistically for us although I also expect us not to get the bottom tier at Millwall next season ,so our impressive 3,394 will reduce to just over 2,000.
We lose Cardiff and Hull ,but gain QPR,Reading and Wigan.QPR would be a good swap for Watford but bad for Palace.Reading is an excellent swap for Cardiff. Hull and Wigan are similar distances.
In terms of League One Yeovil probably matches Bristol,Bournemouth/Peterborough (albeit in completely different directions) and Doncaster over Wolves might have new ground appeal as we have only played at the Keepmoat once in an evening game.I will certainly try to go there having only visited Donny as a neutral.
I would imagine that all things bring equal our away numbers would probably decline overall next year as a) there will likely be reduced allocations for the two games that we take really big numbers, and b) one of the big drivers for our numbers are new grounds and Donny is the only one that remotely falls into that category on a large scale.0 -
That table also shows that we are the 5th most visited club. Is that a result of us being a relatively new ground after a few years away, or is it that we're a good away day (and based on our home form this season, an almost guaranteed win)?0
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Greg said:
That table also shows that we are the 5th most visited club. Is that a result of us being a relatively new ground after a few years away, or is it that we're a good away day (and based on our home form this season, an almost guaranteed win)?
I'd assume it's just because we're in London, so a few clubs probably bring a few extra for a weekend away in London, plus most sides will have fans who live/work in the capital. Not much between us and Palace in the averages so i don't think there are any other factors. Millwall are obviously less because of their reputation.
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Some people might say @OohAahMortimer was perhaps the greatest analyser of Charlton's away attendances of all time. Some might even say his insightful comments on away day followings were world class.falconwood_1 said:End Of An Era:
Ferguson
Beckham
Scholes
Carragher
Owen
OohAahMortimer
Neville
Petrov
Harper
Van Bommel
Carlos
Shevchenko
Ballack
Inzaghi
All retiring.
Had Elton John been a Charlton fan and not a Watford fan he might have penned a tribute
Addick In The Away End
Goodbye Charlton's rose
May you ever grow our away attendances
You were the grace that placed itself
Where crowds were torn apart
You called out to our Charlton
And you whispered to those in low numbers
Now you belong to Millwall
And the Dockers stand spell out your name
chorus
And it seems to me you lived your life
Like a Addick in the away end
Never fading with the sunset
When the defeats set in
And your footsteps will always fall here
Along the Covered End
Your away support's burned out long before
Your legend ever will
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I have said it before, and I will say it again - most sides wont have fans who live or work in the capital, ALL sides will. Every club in the country must have 300+ followers within an hour of The Valley.
I think our away following is fine. If people don't or can't go, so what? Does not make them any less passionate or care any less.0 -
Elton John singing,
Addick in the away end
just don't sound right to me.0 -
as per a few of the above posts, you have to look at that table bearing in mind the following:
We are in London - Some northern fans will visit us so that they can spend time in London as well. (Like us visiting Brighton)
Leeds especially have a VERY large london contingent - their London branch probably has more supporters than our Medway branch
We don't have that many "local" games and over half of our away games involve 3hrs plus travelling. This season there were lots of NW teams, so Blackpool fans for example had trips to Blackburn, Bolton & Burnley on their door-step and then 1hr trips to Sheff W, Leeds & Huddersfield. Wolves, being slap bang in the middle of the country, have over half the teams no more than 2 hrs away.0 -
Its all about geography take Leeds for example have great surport all over the country but when you have four yorkshire derbys
Barnsley
Hudders
Hull City
Massive
Three teams down the road in Lancs
Burnley
Blackburn
Bolton
Five teams in the midlands
Wolves
Forest
Leicester
Derby
Birmingham
Then Mboro
What have we got
Scum
Scum
Brighton
Watford
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Sadly there's a team not to far away which eliminates the travel argument.0
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Who were going for promotion all seasonFriend Or Defoe said:Sadly there's a team not to far away which eliminates the travel argument.
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Blackpool to Leeds and Sheffield in an hour, were they all travelling in convoys of Ferrari's up there?golfaddick said:
Blackpool fans for example had trips to Blackburn, Bolton & Burnley on their door-step and then 1hr trips to Sheff W, Leeds & Huddersfield.
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and palace had a better away average in our previous 2 seasons in the Championship when we had considerably more home fans and a bit of new ground syndrome to bootAFKABartram said:
Who were going for promotion all seasonFriend Or Defoe said:Sadly there's a team not to far away which eliminates the travel argument.
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So our away support has increased by over 300 from 2009. Excellent.0
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This is exactly why your armchair views on our away support piss people off.oohaahmortimer said:
and palace had a better away average in our previous 2 seasons in the Championship when we had considerably more home fans and a bit of new ground syndrome to bootAFKABartram said:
Who were going for promotion all seasonFriend Or Defoe said:Sadly there's a team not to far away which eliminates the travel argument.
You only ever emphasise the negative.0 -
oohaah everyone can see our away support is not good as it should be.
Unfortunately you love to point it out at every opportunity.
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He is only talking about away fans stats and facts on an away fans stats and facts thread. The OP even referenced him so should expect him to comment. He has mentioned good turn outs in previous threads too.0
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Millwall who apart from selling out at us and Palace, took barely 1k fans anywhere, so anyone know why they took almost 1800 to Sheff Weds?0
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Comparing to our home fans we have worse in championship then ?0
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Because from what I can remember, they're 'main lot' were planning it as a big day out, so all the hanger ons wanted to be part of it. I'm sure that's what my mate said. Herd followers.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Millwall who apart from selling out at us and Palace, took barely 1k fans anywhere, so anyone know why they took almost 1800 to Sheff Weds?
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Fair enough AFKA, should've guessed the big turn out would involve the prospect of a tear up.
nolly - i don't think we're the worst. % wise Brighton must be worse, 26k home crowds but only take 1400 away.0 -
Fucking hell chaps. Seriously, hasn't all this shit been done to death a million times on here?
So our away followings are chuff. Haven't they always been?
And comparing away crowds to home crowds is surely not relevant, now that we know that home crowds are exaggerated by 10k every home game and I am the only person sitting in the west stand.
Of course, under the previous regime the home crowds weren't inflated at all. No sir, the games were just marketed better.
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I'm not sure what qualifies him as an expert apart from him being a fan that used to to away games .MrOneLung said:. The OP even referenced him so should expect him to comment.
I always expect him to comment . That's the problem.
He disrespects the people who do actually go to the away games.0 -
you take life far too seriously , take a chill pillBedsaddick said:
I'm not sure what qualifies him as an expert apart from him being a fan that used to to away games .MrOneLung said:. The OP even referenced him so should expect him to comment.
I always expect him to comment . That's the problem.
He disrespects the people who do actually go to the away games.
of course i'm gonna comment , i have a weird obsession with away numbers, like you have a weird obsession with what i say about them
i know i have a captive audience and don't wanna let people down , it's only banter
and don't make crap up about me disrepecting the people who actually go away , i doff my cap in respect of those travellers because i'm someone who knows what amount of committment that takes
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Dedication's what you need.0
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Tbf to oohaah, he's too busy to go to many away games, as he's in the process of trying to produce the next generation of Charlton supporters :-)0
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They didn't even do anything as they all got lost outside the ground.AFKABartram said:
Because from what I can remember, they're 'main lot' were planning it as a big day out, so all the hanger ons wanted to be part of it. I'm sure that's what my mate said. Herd followers.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Millwall who apart from selling out at us and Palace, took barely 1k fans anywhere, so anyone know why they took almost 1800 to Sheff Weds?
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