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How They Buried The Truth
Bob22
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Anyone watching this. Its so sickening to watch
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Yeah. Not sure why I watch these Hillsborough documentaries as they always get me wound up.0
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There's a lot of people to blame, on both sides0
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Quite amazing really, the lengths they went to, to cover things up0
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yes, I just hope that justice is eventually done, but I doubt it.0
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Didnt realise this was on, but fortunately its repeated. Slightly surprised Panorama are doing this now, as its only a couple of months since the BBC ran "Hillsborough - Never forgotten" which was so powerful I was in tears, and have marked it "keep" on my skybox.
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Are one of the sides the fans?J BLOCK said:There's a lot of people to blame, on both sides
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Found that very upsetting ,0
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Stomach churned a few times watching the footage, very upsetting.0
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Still half an hour after am still raging.
The old bill and successive politicians (on both sides) couldn't have been more corrupt if they tried.
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That tunnel was a death trap, didn't realise how sparsely populated the end sections were. Absolutely disgraceful, justice for the 960
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Horrendous viewing so much corruption and deciept the way it was hidden the way people tried to speak out
Dusgusting behaviour from people we are supposed to trust
Justice for the 96 is such a powerful slogan and as fans of football we should all embrace0 -
I still don't know what makes me more angry:
The fact that the whole thing was covered up, with police statements 'doctored' (didn't a senior politician get 8 months for perverting the course of justice recently)
The fact that it has taken nearly 25 years to get to the truth.
Or that, even after all this, probably nothing will ever change.0 -
This could of happend at Palace away. It was scarey being penned in there0
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Can any of the police in charge that day be sent down now?0
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Id say so...Loads of people get sent down years after....0
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See Blairs labour had the chance to stand up for the average working class citizen that they are supposed to represent......and duly shafted them again.
Disgraceful.the whole lot of it0 -
Hard to watch and the lies were even more disgusting.0
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Hillsborough disaster April 1989.carly burn said:See Blairs labour had the chance to stand up for the average working class citizen that they are supposed to represent......and duly shafted them again.
Disgraceful.the whole lot of it
Tony Blair elected as Prime Minister May 1997.
Who was in charge in between?0 -
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I think he means they had a chance to launch a full public enquiry when there was clear evidence of a police coverup, and they just brushed it aside again. I thinkOrmiston Addick said:
Hillsborough disaster April 1989.carly burn said:See Blairs labour had the chance to stand up for the average working class citizen that they are supposed to represent......and duly shafted them again.
Disgraceful.the whole lot of it
Tony Blair elected as Prime Minister May 1997.
Who was in charge in between?0 -
For once on a thread that shames all parties all powers over a period of decades
Drop the labour conservative points scoring
This could have been anyone of you or i it couldve been our children, our brothers our sisters
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Spot on.nth london addick said:For once on a thread that shames all parties all powers over a period of decades
Drop the labour conservative points scoring
This could have been anyone of you or i it couldve been our children, our brothers our sisters
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I am no fan of Blair at all, I will never forgive him for his lies on Iraq, but why the hell should his government bear the blame for this?McBobbin said:
I think he means they had a chance to launch a full public enquiry when there was clear evidence of a police coverup, and they just brushed it aside again. I thinkOrmiston Addick said:
Hillsborough disaster April 1989.carly burn said:See Blairs labour had the chance to stand up for the average working class citizen that they are supposed to represent......and duly shafted them again.
Disgraceful.the whole lot of it
Tony Blair elected as Prime Minister May 1997.
Who was in charge in between?
This was not under their watch and Thatcher-Major did not lift a finger to do anything about it for eight years and yet true to form the resident Tories on here find a way to blame the Labour Party for it.
NLA is right, party politics should play no part in this but if people must play that game they should at least be fair about it.0 -
I don't want to be critical of the BBC, or the program itself, but there wasn't much in the program that I didn't already know.
Most of the 'revelations' had been disclosed already.
It is still terrible what happened, and the coverup was obscene, but I'm not sure there was anything new disclosed. Clearly someone had poured over the CCTV to identify specific individuals, but nothing about the accounts of the days events was different, and I recognised many of the faces from previous documentaries.
It's fairly clear that those that deserve to be held accountable never will be so I'm not sure of the benefit of many more of these type of programs, personally.0 -
Oh well nla, you tried.0
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Agreed very interesting but little new.
On a side note - did the Valley ever have fencing?0 -
Nothing new was said but the BBC showed unseen footage and there were some interesting interviews with people who still refuse to take responsibility.0
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Yes.Greenster said:
On a side note - did the Valley ever have fencing?
Does anyone know whether the Valley had a valid safety certificate in the '80's? And whether Selhurst Park had one when we played there?0 -
This will be my final post on this matter.Ormiston Addick said:
I am no fan of Blair at all, I will never forgive him for his lies on Iraq, but why the hell should his government bear the blame for this?McBobbin said:
I think he means they had a chance to launch a full public enquiry when there was clear evidence of a police coverup, and they just brushed it aside again. I thinkOrmiston Addick said:
Hillsborough disaster April 1989.carly burn said:See Blairs labour had the chance to stand up for the average working class citizen that they are supposed to represent......and duly shafted them again.
Disgraceful.the whole lot of it
Tony Blair elected as Prime Minister May 1997.
Who was in charge in between?
This was not under their watch and Thatcher-Major did not lift a finger to do anything about it for eight years and yet true to form the resident Tories on here find a way to blame the Labour Party for it.
NLA is right, party politics should play no part in this but if people must play that game they should at least be fair about it.
I know it was not on their watch and I am by no means blaming them for what happened at the time.
As Bobbin said,there was a chance for the Labour party to right the wrongs that were done by the despicable south yorkshire police and the conservative party and give the poor families some justice.They had all the evidence that was presented on the panorama programme last night. It was blatantly obvious that there had been a cover up of epic proportions.
But they chose to tow the Tory line and leave it buried,proving yet again that they were/are just Tories with red rosettes on. I am by no means whatsoever a supporter of the torys.0
