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The missus saw a Lancia kit car on top gear and started dribbling. She's a bit blind so wouldn't be driving it, but she'd be paying for it and I'd be building it. It looks nice, but at just £13k I'm thinking "You get what you pay for" Personally would rather spend a bit more for a car that doesn't fall to pieces when you drive it.

Anyone built one or knows any of the pitfalls...would be grateful for any info.

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  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    I that kind of project sounds awesome; I spent a few months helping a mate out last year with a motorbike restoration - and absolutely loved it. Some day I'd like to do a kit build, some beautiful ones out there.

    I'm not much help really, never been involved in a kit build. Immediate things that cross my mind are insurance - how does that work exactly? Also, sourcing out a base car to build upon if needed; I think some kits use a "donor" car.
  • richie8
    richie8 Posts: 1,205
    I helped a mate to build one a few years ago. The donor car was a Sierra,so had a 2 l Sierra engine and running gear plus suspension. He wasn't pleased when boy racers in Novas were leaving his Ferrari at the lights! He could have done better if he had spent more cash on better donor parts.
  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609
    It would have to be the Ferrari lump...preferably rebuilt.
  • richie8
    richie8 Posts: 1,205
    edited September 2013
    Plus the time and expense is considerable. Also handy to have a mate that worked at Dagenham back in the day.
  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609
    edited September 2013
    I'm retired so time not a problem. Just looked at Ferrari engines 5k upwards but without carbs, headers etc. Might have to think again on that one.

    Edit: The Alpha Romeo V6 is around 2K SH.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,782
    Always worth joining the owners club if there is one. Whilst a lot of kits are well made there are often many difficult/awkward elements of the build process. Speaking to people who've been there helps.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,800
    Well, with your love of all things cannabis, god only knows what it would end up looking like................

  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609

    Well, with your love of all things cannabis, god only knows what it would end up looking like................

    Brilliant! Plus it looks just like me :-)

  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609
    After much discussion 'er indoors says it's got to be the Lancia Stratos with the Alpha lump.
  • I'm retired so time not a problem. Just looked at Ferrari engines 5k upwards but without carbs, headers etc. Might have to think again on that one.

    Edit: The Alpha Romeo V6 is around 2K SH.

    ! Mayby have you tried eurospares of halstead essex they have 4 warehouses full of lambo alpha &ferrari new & used spares they are well worth a call . There knowledge of italian supercars are second to none they are dismantling cars all the time .


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  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609

    I'm retired so time not a problem. Just looked at Ferrari engines 5k upwards but without carbs, headers etc. Might have to think again on that one.

    Edit: The Alpha Romeo V6 is around 2K SH.

    ! Mayby have you tried eurospares of halstead essex they have 4 warehouses full of lambo alpha &ferrari new & used spares they are well worth a call . There knowledge of italian supercars are second to none they are dismantling cars all the time .

    Cheers mate...will defo give them a call.

  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,782
    The problem with ferrari engines in kit cars is that they still cost ferrari money to run and repair.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,235
    My brother-in-law bought a kit AC Cobra replica to bolt on to a Beemer 3 series chassis. It used the BMW straight six as the donor lump too. Trouble is, five years later, it's still in pieces in his garage. The main reason was that he could never get the wiring loom to function. The loom came from Sri Lanka and was just a piece of junk with no customer support available.
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,800
    cafcfan said:

    My brother-in-law bought a kit AC Cobra replica to bolt on to a Beemer 3 series chassis. It used the BMW straight six as the donor lump too. Trouble is, five years later, it's still in pieces in his garage. The main reason was that he could never get the wiring loom to function. The loom came from Sri Lanka and was just a piece of junk with no customer support available.

    Surely his best (& cheaper) option would be to get someone with mechanical electrical experience to make one from scratch? Being a Cobra, It's hardly going to be full of all the latest gadgets, so (someone who knows what he's doing) shouldn't be too difficult.

    Think I read somewhere once that only about 40% of these projects ever see the road, as people take them on in the mind that it's just gonna be a couple of hours at the w/end for a month or two. Once they realise how much time & effort goes into a project like that, it usually gets binned halfway through, with the owner either trying to sell it on, or making false promises to himself that he'll come back to it later.

    Would highly recommend signing up to a forum of fellow builders and pick their brains before even considering this.....................

  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,235

    cafcfan said:

    My brother-in-law bought a kit AC Cobra replica to bolt on to a Beemer 3 series chassis. It used the BMW straight six as the donor lump too. Trouble is, five years later, it's still in pieces in his garage. The main reason was that he could never get the wiring loom to function. The loom came from Sri Lanka and was just a piece of junk with no customer support available.

    Surely his best (& cheaper) option would be to get someone with mechanical electrical experience to make one from scratch? Being a Cobra, It's hardly going to be full of all the latest gadgets, so (someone who knows what he's doing) shouldn't be too difficult.

    Think I read somewhere once that only about 40% of these projects ever see the road, as people take them on in the mind that it's just gonna be a couple of hours at the w/end for a month or two. Once they realise how much time & effort goes into a project like that, it usually gets binned halfway through, with the owner either trying to sell it on, or making false promises to himself that he'll come back to it later.

    Would highly recommend signing up to a forum of fellow builders and pick their brains before even considering this.....................

    Ha, ha. - Yeah you're right Tango. Thing is, rather than having a hobby, he collects hobbies! I've no doubt the car will stay in the garage gathering dust while the old beemer slowly rots under its tarpaulin in the yard. He's since moved on to collecting and restoring antique agricultural equipment (yes, I know!) and the latest "passion" is American Quarter Horses. He thinks he's "King of the Rodeo" now! I think my sister is just too indulgent really.
  • maybe_baby
    maybe_baby Posts: 2,609
    I think wives and gf's often come in to the equation. Three hundred hours is a long time in the garage, plus you need more than an average knowledge of automobiles. I always finish projects but I've met many that don't last the course.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,509
    If I remember, the car in Night Rider was called kitt .. the legend that is David Hasselhoff .. hahahaha
  • If I remember, the car in Night Rider was called kitt .. the legend that is David Hasselhoff .. hahahaha

    Knight Industries Two Thousand.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    edited September 2013
    The 'family spent two years putting one together

    Used two seperate 'donor' cars for the components, (Marina and Herald) and the MG 1800 series B engine/gearbox.

    Great fun to drive, real head turner - but not at all practicle - particularly someone over 6ft.