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Brighton u21s v Charlton u21s

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  • 2-2 @ Full Time
  • evina just got bullied for that goal, as someone above said he won't be playing for us again
  • jac52
    jac52 Posts: 636

    evina just got bullied for that goal, as someone above said he won't be playing for us again

    League 1 squad player at best.. and that's if his head is right.

    Also who is kwadwo asamoah?? Hopefully the same one that plays for Ghana
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,634
    It was rumoured the other week that we were signing a Ghanian, or was it Russian ..
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,335
    Thought Lennon looked class. Gerrard az well. Good performance.
  • Addick90
    Addick90 Posts: 677
    Who were the best players in tonights game? will any of them make the step up to the first team on a regular basis in the future? Commentators at the end said lennon was our best player, he impressed me massively at wigan playing out of position at left back, typical old fashioned defender. Would be great if him and gomez could come through in future, obviously i know gomez is better but sounds like some think he may be on his way
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,064
    Good take from Mackail Smith. As someone said earlier...we should have kicked him to keep him out of the league game in a couple of weeks!!

    Missed the first half, but I was impressed with what I saw of the second. Some very good football from Charlton and 15 year old Beeney acquitted himself very well in goal.
  • StubleyAddick
    StubleyAddick Posts: 2,552
    On way back to my Uni.

    1st half we were excellent..a lot of positives. Koc, Sho-Silva, Gerard..list could go on.

    2nd half was Brighton's half. Mackail-Smith was superb and his goal at the end was just sublime.

    Polish Pete was average...reminded me of Michael Smith funnily enough.

    Evina had some woeful moments. Mackail-Smith brushing him over for the equaliser sums Evina's game.
  • DeeBee
    DeeBee Posts: 1,033
    I thought PP was decent, should nice touches but is far too weak which could be a problem
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,147

    Bollocks 2-2 in the 94th min... Mackail-Smith

    The Charlton way.

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  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,034
    Jordan Beeney is the son of Mark Beeney http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Beeney who is Chelsea's Goalkeeping coach.

    Jordan's older brother Mitchell is the Blues U21 keeper. Maybe they want Jordan to play for a different club otherwise the brothers would be competing for the same spot.
  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    Mark Beeney the Brighton keeper who whacked a fan? Mark Beeney?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,008
    What's happened to the Evina that looked so promising at Watford on NYD 2013??

  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,076

    What's happened to the Evina that looked so promising at Watford on NYD 2013??

    Maybe we were still pissed mate, it never really happened.

  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,879
    Agreed Gary, the early stuff I saw of Evina showed a raw player but with the tools to grow into a talented Ashley Cole style fluent full back. Completely lost his way somehow.

    only saw 20 mins of the 2nd half and what I saw of PP was shockingly average. May have saw an unfair 20 mins, but....
  • The defending at the end from Evina showed me what I already knew, he's not good enough and in fact before that we had played 8-9 passes down in the right hand channel in there 3rd and he lumped it up to a player clearly offside when under no pressure.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,507
    Evina was fine last season and had a couple of really good games so I don't know what's happened to him this season. If he's not careful, he'll drop out of league football altogether.
  • Evina & PP stood out as the under performers, both seemed to not have their heads in the game, throwing tantrums and being out muscled constantly to 19 year olds and the likes. Players like Tobi and Lennon looked alot more prepared than the both of them, seems from reports of those watching the other U21's that's been PP's story in all the games, ineffective. At 21 he should be able to adapt, but definitely hasn't yet.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,828

    What's with "don't tell him your name?????

    Dad's Army
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,442
    edited March 2014
    Went to the game. We played a 4-5-1 when defending which moved into a 4-3-3 in attack. Gerard was the most advanced CM but they all got forward.

    Beeney - did well enough considering someone said he's 15. The odd poor kick or ball you'd expect a senior keeper to hold but didn't think his age or lack of experience was obvious from watching.

    Pyke - reasonable job at RB without standing out.

    Osborne - saw him twice last year at right back, more comfortable in the middle, again did well enough. Been on loan at Sutton Utd, with Gomez (hopefully) coming through and Lennon already signed up longer term I'm not sure if he'll win another deal.

    Lennon - well taken goal but I think it was his failed attempt at a clearance that led to Mackail-Smith's first goal. Was captain and what must have been his family were sitting a few rows in front of me. Again did well enough overall.

    Evina - can't imagine he's happy playing in these games. Didn't stand out as you'd hope he would and I expect him to leave this summer and probably end up in League 1, maybe even 2. CMS knocked him to the floor to create the equaliser, completely outmuscled. Solly and Wiggins aren't big themselves but I think they'd handle a challenge like that better.

    Munns - tidy and good feet but one of those that you ask is it enough. Very small and because of that needs to really stand out in other areas. Obviously the club think he has a chance as he agreed a contract until 2015.

    Daniel - hadn't seen him before and can see why we offered him a deal after he left Palace. Was a threat on the counter, would run with the ball and usually pick a pass. Think it was him that put Sho-Silva through early on (who hit the post) and PP (who put it just wide). Like Munns good touch and control and also showed a decent range of passing. Also has a contract until 2015, hard to say based on one game but there might be a useful player there. Moved to LB when Pyke went off injured, with Evina at RB.

    Gerard - as with the other CMs decent on the ball. On the counter attack for his goal we had several players running into their box. Munns got the pass and tried to lift it over their keeper, was saved but Gerard was there to finish. As with Munns not sure how well he'd cope physically.

    Sho-Silva - still on loan with Welling but back to play for our u21s. His pace and height cause problems. Unlucky to hit the post, had another chance after a poor Brighton ball across their own box which he blasted over, needed a bit more composure. If he's here next season I think he could probably do with regular football out on loan, hopefully in the FL. Probably more comfortable as a striker playing on the wing than our first team strikers.

    Koc - flashes of pace and skill but mainly in the first half. Right footed so looks to cut in more. Still not worked out why he's here though? If we had no wingers on the bench I'd have him there just to offer that type of threat from the bench.

    PP - average is fair. Not going to win headers against Champ CBs and not a big strong targetmen. Occasional decent touches but some poor ones, a few too many to be honest. Couple of efforts at goal just wide. Nothing to say he should be written off but didn't show he's a better prospect than Pigott or Smith.

    Two of the trialists (I assume) came on quite late. Not sure how they can show anything in that amount of time. Hanlan one of our own also came on and looks to be another striker/winger similar to Azeez and Sho-Silva.

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,442
    Simonsen said:

    Evina was fine last season and had a couple of really good games so I don't know what's happened to him this season. If he's not careful, he'll drop out of league football altogether.

    It is a shame because there were calls for him to start when Powell played Solly at LB last season, and when he eventually came in he did quite well. He's now in his third season here and hasn't pushed on enough. Wiggins isn't at his best but Evina hasn't done enough to get starts ahead of him and now has Fox making the bench in his place.

    On PP it would be interesting to know how he was used in Holland. Did he play alongside a more physical striker or is it a case of the football being slower and less physical meaning he could play that role himself. He will hopefully get stronger and adapt but if he does do that it clearly won't happen in time for this season. On the other hand he's 21 early next season, it wouldn't be surprising if he moved to another club in RDs network.
  • That keeper must be some talent to be playing at that level at the age of 15!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,960
    Scoham said:

    Simonsen said:

    Evina was fine last season and had a couple of really good games so I don't know what's happened to him this season. If he's not careful, he'll drop out of league football altogether.

    It is a shame because there were calls for him to start when Powell played Solly at LB last season, and when he eventually came in he did quite well. He's now in his third season here and hasn't pushed on enough. Wiggins isn't at his best but Evina hasn't done enough to get starts ahead of him and now has Fox making the bench in his place.

    On PP it would be interesting to know how he was used in Holland. Did he play alongside a more physical striker or is it a case of the football being slower and less physical meaning he could play that role himself. He will hopefully get stronger and adapt but if he does do that it clearly won't happen in time for this season. On the other hand he's 21 early next season, it wouldn't be surprising if he moved to another club in RDs network.
    I find it hard to believe that Brighton U21s would offer a particularly physical threat, if he can't cope with that then god knows how he'd cope with 3rd division CBs!
  • Riscardo
    Riscardo Posts: 2,338
    Jordan Beeney dob 12/05/1998
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,442
    I wouldn't say he didn't cope but I could see why he's not been playing for the first team. If he gets a bit stronger, holds up the ball a bit better and takes one of his chances it turns from an ok performance into a good one. Not impossible considering his age and the fact that he's adapting to a new country, club and style of football.

    As I said I wouldn't write him off based on that, he may just need some time. A few on here that went to Derby said Pigott looked a stronger and better player, and Smith has improved to the point that he now scores goals at League 1 level. I also wouldn't expect to see him used as the main target man or physical presence up front, unless he really improves that side of his game.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,008
    Riscardo said:

    Jordan Beeney dob 12/05/1998

    1998???!!

    That even makes me feel old.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Chelsea's biog on Kasey Palmer:

    A late-season arrival in 2012-13 from Charlton Athletic, Kasey first caught the eye in the FA Youth Cup clash between the Addicks and the Blues some months before his arrival at Cobham. A lively and skilful midfielder who can play wide or central, he caused problems for Chelsea that night and ultimately earned himself a move.

    What a bunch of twats
  • addick1965
    addick1965 Posts: 5,092
    Should that not read "ultimately gave us the chance to poach another youngster from a smaller club"
  • StubleyAddick
    StubleyAddick Posts: 2,552
    Scoham said:

    I wouldn't say he didn't cope but I could see why he's not been playing for the first team. If he gets a bit stronger, holds up the ball a bit better and takes one of his chances it turns from an ok performance into a good one. Not impossible considering his age and the fact that he's adapting to a new country, club and style of football.

    As I said I wouldn't write him off based on that, he may just need some time. A few on here that went to Derby said Pigott looked a stronger and better player, and Smith has improved to the point that he now scores goals at League 1 level. I also wouldn't expect to see him used as the main target man or physical presence up front, unless he really improves that side of his game.

    Sums my thoughts up too.