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Does Rooney Start

paulie8290
paulie8290 Posts: 23,355
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Genuine question because for me he does not,
he never seems to turn up for England and the way Lambert scored his goal was lethal IMO we should play 4-2-3-1

Gerrard and Wilshere as the 2
Sterling Right, Lallana Centre and Sturridge Left
with Lambert up top
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,304
    edited June 2014
    Unless he plays a blinder tonight, not for me. Suspect the Ox's injury is going to let him in by default though.

    My front 6 (considering Ox's injury) are:
    ---Gerrard Henderson
    Sterling Barkley Lallana
    ---------- Sturridge
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Wilshere is cack. Barkley over Wilshere for me
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    roy will play 4 3 3 against the i-ties.

    hart
    johnson cahill jagielka Baines
    Ox (if fit if not wilshere) Gerrard Lallana
    Sterling Rooney (would prefer lambert, but hey ho) Sturridge

    He'll give rooney a couple of group games i'm sure.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,304
    Don't know why Wilshere and Welbeck are in the squad. Wish we'd taken Carrick and that Walcott was fit.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,783
    Lallana. Rooney. Barkley
    Sturridge

    Front four for me.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,457
    Carrick has had an awful season.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,612
    He shouldn't, but he will.

    Managers are too terrified of the media reaction to bench a top star like Rooney.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,304
    mendonca said:

    Carrick has had an awful season.

    Rather him than Wilshere or *shudder* Cleverley though.
  • ashley
    ashley Posts: 531
    How long before we start receiving daily bulletins on Jack Wilshere's dodgy ankles ? He will be the next crock .
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,512
    What time is it on tonight and what channel? Too lazy and too bored to check.

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,304
    Starts quarter to 10. Think it's on ITV.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,512
    Callumcafc said:

    Starts quarter to 10. Think it's on ITV.

    cheers hopefully I will find the enthusiasm to watch it. But come the World Cup I will be as passionate as any England supporter.

  • GretnaGreenAddick
    GretnaGreenAddick Posts: 3,085
    I think he still needs to start against Italy, just not instead of Barkley.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited June 2014
    would rather wilshere over carrick. Although i've always rated carrick, he's had a crap season and at least wilshere is technically good and can offer "something" even if that something is just dribbling into trouble. Welbeck will come good, far too early for him to be in the england squad, but i dont think he'd be in the squad if jay rodriguez or walcott wasnt injured.
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Rooney is there by name rather than performances. If he steps up though................
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,115
    paulie8290 said:

    Genuine question because for me he does not,
    he never seems to turn up for England and the way Lambert scored his goal was lethal IMO we should play 4-2-3-1

    Gerrard and Wilshere as the 2
    Sterling Right, Lallana Centre and Sturridge Left
    with Lambert up top

    Sturridge should not be on the left whether Rooney plays or not, he needs to be up top.

    Gerrard, Henderson
    Lallana, Rooney, Sterling
    Sturridge

    for me but I wouldn't be too sad to see Barkley in for Rooney.

    To be honest, I think Wellbeck behind Sturridge v Italy to pick up Pirlo wouldn't be a bad choice.
  • Folev the red
    Folev the red Posts: 2,087
    Think Milner should be on the right against Italy.
    I know he had a stinker on wednesday but he is not a rb, and Johnson may get torn a new one with Sterling/Lallana in front of him.

    Gerrard Henderson
    Milner Rooney Sterling
    Sturridge
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Folev the red said:

    Think Milner should be on the right against Italy.
    I know he had a stinker on wednesday but he is not a rb, and Johnson may get torn a new one with Sterling/Lallana in front of him.

    Gerrard Henderson
    Milner Rooney Sterling
    Sturridge

    for the amount of money he's paid, who he plays for and the amount of caps he's got, Milner is an awful, awful footballer. On second thoughts rooney behind sturridge would be a good shout, as long as rooney doesnt leave pirlo's shadow.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,512
    Whilst it can be claimed Rooney is currently poor, is it because he is not living up to his past standards?

    Check out his goals and assists compared to his rivals, for the second striker role, during last season. He scored more and set up more than all of them.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    cfgs said:

    Whilst it can be claimed Rooney is currently poor, is it because he is not living up to his past standards?

    Check out his goals and assists compared to his rivals, for the second striker role, during last season. He scored more and set up more than all of them.

    what standards?? he's had one top, top season where he was the player he had always promised to be but then failed miserably at the world cup.

    Rooney is overrated. Decent international player, but not world class.

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  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,131
    Henderson-Gerrard
    Lallana-Rooney-Sterling
    Sturridge
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,512
    kentaddick said:

    cfgs said:

    Whilst it can be claimed Rooney is currently poor, is it because he is not living up to his past standards?

    Check out his goals and assists compared to his rivals, for the second striker role, during last season. He scored more and set up more than all of them.

    what standards?? he's had one top, top season where he was the player he had always promised to be but then failed miserably at the world cup.

    Rooney is overrated. Decent international player, but not world class.
    2004 he was a beast and we looked capable of winning until his injury, that was the only tournament he has shown his club form. All I am trying to say is that he has out scored any rival for the number 10 shirt.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,612
    cfgs said:

    Whilst it can be claimed Rooney is currently poor, is it because he is not living up to his past standards?

    Check out his goals and assists compared to his rivals, for the second striker role, during last season. He scored more and set up more than all of them.

    Club form =/= International form. Rooney is the definition of a good club player.

    On the International Stage since 2004 he's been dreadful. Pops up with goals against Andorra in qualifying and then disappears against any half decent side.
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    Granny shagging and big macs have done for Rooney.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,512
    Not really arguing just think the alternatives aren't really great either. If you go on international form Wellbeck should start.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,406
    Gerrard Henderson
    Sterling Rooney Lallana
    Sturridge

    Lambert barkley wilshire coming off the bench as impact subs offer something different! Ox in if fit! Has to be Henderson suits the role better. Better current form and a partnership with gerrard! The occasion may be too much for barkley to start against Italy!
  • adamtheaddick
    adamtheaddick Posts: 8,664
    wayne rooney has yet to score a single goal at a world cup tournament plenty in qualifiers but never on the biggest stage compare that to ronaldo klose etc and he looks very poor.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,355
    North Lower Neil said:

    paulie8290 said:

    Genuine question because for me he does not,
    he never seems to turn up for England and the way Lambert scored his goal was lethal IMO we should play 4-2-3-1

    Gerrard and Wilshere as the 2
    Sterling Right, Lallana Centre and Sturridge Left
    with Lambert up top

    Sturridge should not be on the left whether Rooney plays or not, he needs to be up top.

    Gerrard, Henderson
    Lallana, Rooney, Sterling
    Sturridge

    for me but I wouldn't be too sad to see Barkley in for Rooney.

    To be honest, I think Wellbeck behind Sturridge v Italy to pick up Pirlo wouldn't be a bad choice.
    Spent most of the season on the left, him there and Sterling right worked for Liverpool because they can swap sides
  • Bangkok Dave
    Bangkok Dave Posts: 382
    11 goals in last 17 internationals. Amazing. Yes he starts.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 23,115
    paulie8290 said:

    North Lower Neil said:

    paulie8290 said:

    Genuine question because for me he does not,
    he never seems to turn up for England and the way Lambert scored his goal was lethal IMO we should play 4-2-3-1

    Gerrard and Wilshere as the 2
    Sterling Right, Lallana Centre and Sturridge Left
    with Lambert up top

    Sturridge should not be on the left whether Rooney plays or not, he needs to be up top.

    Gerrard, Henderson
    Lallana, Rooney, Sterling
    Sturridge

    for me but I wouldn't be too sad to see Barkley in for Rooney.

    To be honest, I think Wellbeck behind Sturridge v Italy to pick up Pirlo wouldn't be a bad choice.
    Spent most of the season on the left, him there and Sterling right worked for Liverpool because they can swap sides
    No he didn't. He spent most of the season up top with Suarez. It worked because Suarez is quality and creates space for those around him, and Sturridge is a good striker.

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