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Does Rooney Start
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I think Wayne starts against Italy. Whether he plays against anyone else is dependent on his performance against Italy.2
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Why? He has an international goal scoring record of just less than 1 in 2 games and has scored 11 in the last 17. These are things we should be celebrating. He might not be a Messi but he is the best we have and consistent with it.AddicksAddict said:I think Wayne starts against Italy. Whether he plays against anyone else is dependent on his performance against Italy.
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Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Wilshere Gerrard
Lallana Barkley Sterling
Sturridge
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He is an easy target for people
His goal scoring record is really good internationally
His record this season at man utd wasn't too shabby in a shit team
It wouldn't be England and tournament football if there wasn't a pre tournament scape goat1 -
Got to have milner on the right to protect Johnson. Then throw on sterling with twent five to go.
Gerard Henderson
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Rooney and maybe Gerrard and Ashley Cole ( should be there ) are the only 3 true top class players we have ...so does Rooney start ????? does a bear S**t in the woods ....
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How has that translated into competitive England games? I'll wait for those stats.Bangkok Dave said:
Why? He has an international goal scoring record of just less than 1 in 2 games and has scored 11 in the last 17. These are things we should be celebrating. He might not be a Messi but he is the best we have and consistent with it.AddicksAddict said:I think Wayne starts against Italy. Whether he plays against anyone else is dependent on his performance against Italy.
Scoring 2 goals in a game against Luxembourg + in friendlies may look good for his goal scoring stats, but adds nothing to our world cup hopes.2 -
In competitive games Rooney is England's highest ever goal scorer, but he has yet to perform at a tournament other than 2004.SELR_addicks said:
How has that translated into competitive England games? I'll wait for those stats.Bangkok Dave said:
Why? He has an international goal scoring record of just less than 1 in 2 games and has scored 11 in the last 17. These are things we should be celebrating. He might not be a Messi but he is the best we have and consistent with it.AddicksAddict said:I think Wayne starts against Italy. Whether he plays against anyone else is dependent on his performance against Italy.
Scoring 2 goals in a game against Luxembourg + in friendlies may look good for his goal scoring stats, but adds nothing to our world cup hopes.0 -
Agreed on everything else but Glen Johnson is the pre tournament scapegoat, some of the comments about him are a ridiculous over reaction.nth london addick said:He is an easy target for people
His goal scoring record is really good internationally
His record this season at man utd wasn't too shabby in a shit team
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Rooney is the first name on the teamsheet0
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WhyMan_About_Town said:Rooney is the first name on the teamsheet
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Because it's his ball.paulie8290 said:
WhyMan_About_Town said:Rooney is the first name on the teamsheet
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How many goals at the World Cup?Bangkok Dave said:
Why? He has an international goal scoring record of just less than 1 in 2 games and has scored 11 in the last 17. These are things we should be celebrating. He might not be a Messi but he is the best we have and consistent with it.AddicksAddict said:I think Wayne starts against Italy. Whether he plays against anyone else is dependent on his performance against Italy.
Being able to score past fireman and PE teachers is one thing, when it comes to the top level, Rooney can't hack it.0 -
Correct he hasn't scored in the World Cup, but take his European Finals stats for example 5 goals from 6 games. So he can do it. I'm not a huge Rooney fan but his record is good for England and deserves a bit more praise.Stu_of_Kunming said:
How many goals at the World Cup?Bangkok Dave said:
Why? He has an international goal scoring record of just less than 1 in 2 games and has scored 11 in the last 17. These are things we should be celebrating. He might not be a Messi but he is the best we have and consistent with it.AddicksAddict said:I think Wayne starts against Italy. Whether he plays against anyone else is dependent on his performance against Italy.
Being able to score past fireman and PE teachers is one thing, when it comes to the top level, Rooney can't hack it.
30 goals in 57 competitive games for England is excellent and as good as any striker.0 -
Just had a look at Messi's stats - 17 goals in 52 competitive games. So Rooney's record holds up.Bangkok Dave said:
Correct he hasn't scored in the World Cup, but take his European Finals stats for example 5 goals from 6 games. So he can do it. I'm not a huge Rooney fan but his record is good for England and deserves a bit more praise.Stu_of_Kunming said:
How many goals at the World Cup?Bangkok Dave said:
Why? He has an international goal scoring record of just less than 1 in 2 games and has scored 11 in the last 17. These are things we should be celebrating. He might not be a Messi but he is the best we have and consistent with it.AddicksAddict said:I think Wayne starts against Italy. Whether he plays against anyone else is dependent on his performance against Italy.
Being able to score past fireman and PE teachers is one thing, when it comes to the top level, Rooney can't hack it.
30 goals in 57 competitive games for England is excellent and as good as any striker.0 -
Messi out!1
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Think Wilshire has been the biggest disappointment for me the last two games. He keeps running into trouble with the ball, holding onto it when a decent pass is on. He also gives the ball away in advanced positions far too much, hopefully he just needs time, although that has just run out.1
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At least he and Barkley injected some life into our play, same can't be said for Gerrard and Henderson.0
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Barkley is a breath of fresh air and I hope the natural talent and understanding is not altered, by coaching.
Wilshire is a talent, a few seasons back he was the current Barkley, it is a shame that now he always seems to be trying to regain his sharpness after an injury.1 -
I think Barkley, Wilshere and Gerrard are probably our best combination of 3 in the middle, with Sterling and Lallana wide for me. Sturridge up top, which means Rooney misses out. Isn't gonna happen though.0
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I was impressed with Henderson, made some good passes and worked hard. Played a great pass to lallana who almost scored. I actually think Henderson might be the one tasked to keep tabs on pirlo, Rooney, wilshere, etc are more attacking players and I don't think Roy will blunt our attack just for pirlo.Talal said:At least he and Barkley injected some life into our play, same can't be said for Gerrard and Henderson.
Barkley is going to be an amazing player. Him and the ox make me feel we might have a bright future after all.
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I fully expect Rooney to start as Hodgson is very cautious in his approach. It would be a very interesting scenario though if Barkley did play instead and Rooney were to come off the bench.
If Rooney's attitude were of the "Right I'll show them..." approach it could be that would be the making of him in tournament football. Alternatively he'll get sent off after 10 minutes...1 -
We are going to win the World Cup so who cares, just sit back and enjoy
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Dead cert to start despite doing fuck all to deserve it. Shame we still have these auto picks although they are becoming fewer. Rooney could have missed 50 chances and got sent off last night and he would still be the first name on the team sheet.
3 utterly rubbish performances in the warm ups showing either, he is well out of form, or, he is well off full fitness but its probably both as its world cup time.
Ross Barkley could have the game of his life and still not be picked.3 -
read the other posts re goals scored etc. PLUS he is the only genuine quality player we have PLUS we need his experience. I honestly believe that Hodgson picks his keeper, then picks Rooney, then Gerrard then fits in the rest around them. Rooney isn't indespensable, but he is quality.paulie8290 said:
WhyMan_About_Town said:Rooney is the first name on the teamsheet
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You start your best players, so for me he is the first name on the sheet.0
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Its hard to judge based on the warm up games. No one wants to get injured or tired. I'd definitely start Rooney but drop him if he doesn't perform in the first couple of games.
Lampard--Henderson
Ox--Rooney--Llanala
Sturridge
Its a good problem to have because you could easily put Barkley, Gerrard, Sterling, Wiltshire in that lineup and it would still be as strong. Can't remember the last time we had as much strength in depth.0 -
Shame about the defence though.0
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That's definitely the team I would playsam3110 said:Hart
Johnson Cahill Jagielka Baines
Wilshere Gerrard
Lallana Barkley Sterling
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This has been our problem for decades.MuttleyCAFC said:You start your best players, so for me he is the first name on the sheet.
It doesn't matter how shit you play you will always start on reputation.
1. It normally means well out of form players are in key positions.
2. Never motivates the best players as they know it doesn't matter how little they do or how much anyone else does they always will start.
If Rooney was dropped it might just be the shock to the system the bloke needs.
But hey ho. Start him anyway no matter how shit he plays.1
