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UK to allow driverless cars from January.

I was astonished to hear this on the news today. I don't know anything about the technology or in fact what it actually means.
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  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited July 2014
    Its ok, they are going to ban women drivers too.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,006

    Its ok, they are going to ban women drivers.

    My mate's wife drove into the side of a bus the other day. She didn't see it !
  • Kermy
    Kermy Posts: 251
    My understanding is that the google self drive vehicles have no wheel and no pedals. Only an emergency stop button. Is that correct?
  • Badger
    Badger Posts: 4,842
    Helsinki plans to use Smartphones to make cars obsolute.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Badger said:

    Helsinki plans to use Smartphones to make cars obsolute.

    Does that mean they are going to make them absolutely obsolete ?
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    Badger said:

    Helsinki plans to use Smartphones to make cars obsolute.

    How the hell would you get one of those in your pocket?
  • Macronate
    Macronate Posts: 12,892
    can't get my head around it.

    If you owned one of these cars, how are you meant to get anywhere if you're not allowed inside it?
  • Badger
    Badger Posts: 4,842
    Helsinki wants to create a mobility on demand system by 2025 which in theory would be so good nobody would need a car.
    Public transport would become so cheap and available that it will make the car pointless. They are designing an app for the smartphone.
    Most young people in Finland prefer public transport to get around and the car is not looked upon as that important.
    Remains to be seen if this will work, but that's the idea they are working on at the moment.
  • uncle
    uncle Posts: 4,209
    Can you take it to the pub get drunk and get it to drive you home?
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  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    I'd love my car to drive me around during my working day. I could complete my reports before I get home and spend more time with the family.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    edited July 2014
    The association of london taxi drivers are going to be livid " bloody no-one stealing our livelihood"
  • uncle
    uncle Posts: 4,209
    Will driving test become a thing of the past?
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Presumably they'll have to be fitted with sensors so that they don't crash into stray pedestrians, but if they do what's to stop some idiots from deliberately walking in front of the traffic? I can imagine certain feckless teenager types that will think they are so cool that they can make the traffic stop.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Stig said:

    Presumably they'll have to be fitted with sensors so that they don't crash into stray pedestrians, but if they do what's to stop some idiots from deliberately walking in front of the traffic? I can imagine certain feckless teenager types that will think they are so cool that they can make the traffic stop.

    People do that in Woolwich now... Sitting on the bus by the station waiting to move but you cant because people just wander into the road.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,153
    Badger said:

    Helsinki wants to create a mobility on demand system by 2025 which in theory would be so good nobody would need a car.
    Public transport would become so cheap and available that it will make the car pointless. They are designing an app for the smartphone.
    Most young people in Finland prefer public transport to get around and the car is not looked upon as that important.
    Remains to be seen if this will work, but that's the idea they are working on at the moment.

    Which is great until you want to shift a wardrobe...
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764

    Badger said:

    Helsinki wants to create a mobility on demand system by 2025 which in theory would be so good nobody would need a car.
    Public transport would become so cheap and available that it will make the car pointless. They are designing an app for the smartphone.
    Most young people in Finland prefer public transport to get around and the car is not looked upon as that important.
    Remains to be seen if this will work, but that's the idea they are working on at the moment.

    Which is great until you want to shift a wardrobe...
    I know a guy who can do that for you, for 40 quid.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,153

    Badger said:

    Helsinki wants to create a mobility on demand system by 2025 which in theory would be so good nobody would need a car.
    Public transport would become so cheap and available that it will make the car pointless. They are designing an app for the smartphone.
    Most young people in Finland prefer public transport to get around and the car is not looked upon as that important.
    Remains to be seen if this will work, but that's the idea they are working on at the moment.

    Which is great until you want to shift a wardrobe...
    I know a guy who can do that for you, for 40 quid.
    Will I have to wait until 2025?
  • JollyRobin
    JollyRobin Posts: 1,706
    This is it, this is the future guys...

    ...for 3 designated cities, for a trial period.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28551069
  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    I'm torn: hooray - I can have a drink and the car can drive me home, boo - all the fun taken out of driving.
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  • Saga Lout
    Saga Lout Posts: 6,845
    Thinking about it, if your driverless car knocks a pedestrian over, who's fault is it? Your's, Google's or the pedestrian? If you crash into a "driven" car, how do you determine fault? If 2 driverless cars crash, which one is at fault? It's a legal minefield - solicitors must be rubbing their hands with glee.
  • Solidgone
    Solidgone Posts: 10,208
    Will drunken louts try and takeover the car controls?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    Solidgone said:
    Will drunken louts try and takeover the car controls?
    Probably the most random resurrection of an old thread i've ever seen on this forum.
  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,115
    To keep this on track.  LA, San Fran and lots of China already have fleets of driverless cars via Wayze which can be booked via the uber app.  Its inevitable and may eventually lead to most not even bothering with car ownership in inner cities, but just calling for taxi.  total cost of ownership would likely be lower than a car and stress free 
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,454

    Uber has said it is "ready to go" now with driverless taxis in the UK - but the government has put back the date it expects to approve fully self-driving vehicles.

    The previous administration, external said fully autonomous cars were "set to be on roads by 2026", but the new government says it is now more likely to happen in the second half of 2027.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jg80j771zo

  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Ridden in them a couple of times now. Weird for about 30 seconds, then surprisingly relaxing.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    Ridden in them a couple of times now. Weird for about 30 seconds, then surprisingly relaxing.
    A bit like the DLR then ;)
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,752
    uncle said:
    Will driving test become a thing of the past?
    Yes. I’ve already said to my children (oldest is 17) that it’s probably not worth bothering.  I reckon that driverless cars will be available to buy by 2030 or otherwise it’ll be more like all driverless cars are effectively like taxis.
  • seriously_red
    seriously_red Posts: 5,741
    uncle said:
    Will driving test become a thing of the past?
    Yes. I’ve already said to my children (oldest is 17) that it’s probably not worth bothering.  I reckon that driverless cars will be available to buy by 2030 or otherwise it’ll be more like all driverless cars are effectively like taxis.
    I read about this after the Brexit vote and at that time there were predictions that 80% of urban journeys would be completed by driverless cars in ten years time... so 2026/27.

    We are behind that curve but the use case remains the same: why learn to drive and why invest £10-30K in a car that sits around most of the time when one can simply use an Uber App or competitor to summons a driverless car for any trip? And let's not forget fuel, maintenance and insurance.

    It may soon become much, much cheaper to live in a built up area?
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,117
    BalladMan said:
    To keep this on track.  LA, San Fran and lots of China already have fleets of driverless cars via Wayze which can be booked via the uber app.  Its inevitable and may eventually lead to most not even bothering with car ownership in inner cities, but just calling for taxi.  total cost of ownership would likely be lower than a car and stress free 
    Only in Shanghai, as far as I know, they’re also free to use