Ched Evans Court Case - Found guilty and sentenced to 5 years
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Er no, they're really not.nth london addick said:No.it's not
Ched Evans deserves a chance back in society at the bottom rung of the ladder, any one with a conviction for sex offending is on the sex offenders register, there for shouldn't be allowed near kids or vulnerable people, I guess Sheffield utd don't wish to be known as a community club
Anyone who cheers or applauds this decision is supporting a nonce
Although I do agree that as an addendum to my earlier point, being on the sex offenders register is something that an employer could and should use legitimately if they are in a position of community responsibility. SUFC is obviously a place that ought to be inclusive of all the community and having a convicted rapist take such a prominent position within the club would undermine that quite significantly. Bear in mind clubs are community assets and the unique offensiveness of sex offences does allow pause for whether released convicts of such crimes should be encouraged or at least allowed without protest to take up respected or influential positions within society/the community.0 -
No it's not. I suppose my point is around should it be the severity of the crime that is the issue or the fact that they were convicted of a crime per se. What is the cut off point for re-employing someone who has been imprisoned? Who decides that GBH for example is more or less of a crime than fraud?operationpig said:
Yes, and he needed to grow up and tbf I think he has, yes he's made mistakes by having a few fights one of them which was blatantly provoked by a Pig, he got sent down for it and he's come back and kept his head down and worked hard, but believe me lots of Wednesday fans didn't want him at the club after it.sirjohnhumphrey said:
Not the same crime I know but I know but isn't twice convicted felon Gary Madine back with you?operationpig said:Embarrassing having to share the same City as these gimps and the club seems adamant that they will indeed by playing a convicted racist.
I rest my case.
Not in the same world as raping someone though is it?
In my eyes, a professional footballer who is sent to prison should be sacked and re-employment on their release not considered. They have brought the club, and therefore their colleagues and fans into disrepute. I would not want any convicted criminal associated with my club, particularly one who had committed the crime whilst in my club's employ.1 -
Here's a quote from a charity that deals with rehabilitating criminals (source: BBC News)
"Nacro, the crime reduction charity, said gainful employment was critical in helping people put their criminal past behind them.
Graham Beech, director of strategic development at the charity, said: "It is the police, probation and other relevant agencies' responsibility to protect the public and it is the employer's responsibility to assess any risks that are involved in employing the individual. Both need to put appropriate safeguards in place.
"This includes the risk of harm to employees and the general public and any business and reputational risks to the employer no matter how high profile that job or that employment may be."
The first line seems to lean towards letting Evans have a second chance, but the final line indicates that SUFC have a responsibility to consider both their reputational damage as well as damaging their position in the community.
One thing though, if Evans is allowed back into club football, will that pave the way for a return to playing for Wales (provided he's good enough to be selected)? Or do we foresee Wales perhaps being more sober about the situation, and also as there is no money to be made from selecting Evans, there would only be foreseeable grief?0 -
Every cheer he gets on a football pitch is done by a nonce supporter
Yes he has served a period of time in jail but he should be castrated and consigned to taking dss money and living in a bed sit2 -
I wonder what people would say if we signed him0
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Sorry Ched I didnt see you there the fire brigade are on their way, they will left the car off your head0
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Whereas the convicted thug Gary Madine is OK I suppose?operationpig said:Embarrassing having to share the same City as these gimps and the club seems adamant that they will indeed by playing a convicted racist.
I rest my case.
And the rapist Nile Ranger was a paragon of virtue whilst at Wednesday.
Oh, and Ronnie Wallwork never knicked anything whilst at Wednesday.
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Not sure, how tall is he?ross1 said:I wonder what people would say if we signed him
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Marlon King was signed by Coventry and then Birmingham after being jailed for Sexual Assault and is on the sex offenders register. I don't remember there being this big an outrcry about it and he is twice as scum as Ched Evans in my opinion.nth london addick said:No.it's not
Ched Evans deserves a chance back in society at the bottom rung of the ladder, any one with a conviction for sex offending is on the sex offenders register, there for shouldn't be allowed near kids or vulnerable people, I guess Sheffield utd don't wish to be known as a community club
Anyone who cheers or applauds this decision is supporting a nonce0 -
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Probably the same, I'vross1 said:I wonder what people would say if we signed him
Oppps I really don't think you should of said that you stupid lad, making stuff up.Addickted said:
Whereas the convicted thug Gary Madine is OK I suppose?operationpig said:Embarrassing having to share the same City as these gimps and the club seems adamant that they will indeed by playing a convicted racist.
I rest my case.
And the rapist Nile Ranger was a paragon of virtue whilst at Wednesday.
Oh, and Ronnie Wallwork never knicked anything whilst at Wednesday.
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I wonder if people actually know what the word nonce means. not of normal criminal element; not sure how a supporter cheering ched evans could be classed as a criminal normal or otherwise. I am afraid he has done his time and provided he sticks to the terms of the sex offenders register should be able to get on with his life. On a side note has anyone noticed the letter from a charlton supporter on his website ?2
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I thought that in prison nonce is "Not on normal courtyard exercise "Northstandpieeater said:I wonder if people actually know what the word nonce means. not of normal criminal element; not sure how a supporter cheering ched evans could be classed as a criminal normal or otherwise. I am afraid he has done his time and provided he sticks to the terms of the sex offenders register should be able to get on with his life. On a side note has anyone noticed the letter from a charlton supporter on his website ?
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he has done his time, leave the guy alone. Lot of wrong un's in football, he isn't the first and won't be the last.1
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Nonce is exactly what is said above, and back in the good days of the prison system these filth nonce scum were separate from others in jail
Rapists, kiddie fiddlers all the same preying on those unable to fight back and stop a sexual act forced upon them
I said exactly the same about Marlon king and applauded dave w's stance getting shot of him.
Another of society that should be put down along with
evans and any other piece of raping scum you can name
And anyone who cheers this filth on a pitch and chants his name is a supporter of a rapist and should gonna look at the women folk in their life and tell them rapists are OK
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Problem I have is, he hasn't actually done his time in my eyes. He's only done half his sentence and getting out after 2 years for rape is a joke. But that's the justice systems fault.Steve Dowman said:he has done his time, leave the guy alone. Lot of wrong un's in football, he isn't the first and won't be the last.
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bit strong nla, you might want to read about this case a bit more, he got a lenient sentence for good reason, not condoning what happened, but nonce is a bit wide of the mark.3
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He got 5 years ffs for raping a girl, what more is they to say?Steve Dowman said:bit strong nla, you might want to read about this case a bit more, he got a lenient sentence for good reason, not condoning what happened, but nonce is a bit wide of the mark.
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No issues for me to catch up on he was accused of raping a girl and was found guilty by a jury
Therefore is a convicted rapist
Anyone who is a convicted rapist is a dirty nonce who don't deserve the right for anyone's support or even the right to be able to still have his balls attached
Filth piece of scum, and I can be 100 per cent honest and say if he done that to my daughter I'd love him back at sheff u as id know where I can find him to deal with it properly6 -
Send my season ticket back and never go near the club again.ross1 said:I wonder what people would say if we signed him
I love Charlton, ask anyone who knows me, but I just could not support a team that employed a rapist4 -
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the facts of this case are open to public scrutiny, his friend who was there, invited him back to his hotel and also had sex with her (she was 19) was cleared. it sounds a bit of a strange guilty verdict to me. not that I condone rape, but to call him a nonce is a bit harsh, that should be reserved for proper sickos.nth london addick said:No issues for me to catch up on he was accused of raping a girl and was found guilty by a jury
Therefore is a convicted rapist
Anyone who is a convicted rapist is a dirty nonce who don't deserve the right for anyone's support or even the right to be able to still have his balls attached
Filth piece of scum, and I can be 100 per cent honest and say if he done that to my daughter I'd love him back at sheff u as id know where I can find him to deal with it properly0 -
NLA, once again your ignorance shines like a light. It's fine to have an opinion, but your delivery really needs work.1
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Not for me,
If it was a judge that found him.guilty then it's up for debate, it was a jury who found him guilty who had all.the evidence played out to them in a court of law
Therefore he is a dirty sex case and that makes him a filthy nonce
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Everything has become too acceptable nowadays. Years ago there is no way fans would support their local club with a convicted rapist playing for them. The world has gone mad.0
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Like I give two shits about sounding ignorant talking about a dirty sex case that needs castration and removal from life4
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PopIcon said:
NLA, once again your ignorance shines like a light. It's fine to have an opinion, but your delivery really needs work.
Gior.
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Anyone who feels that their sexual needs and urges is more important than the feeling of the woman deserves nothing. They should be publicly shamed, and isolated from the rest of civilisation1
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He got 5 years ffs for raping a girl, what more is they to say?
But only served half! The man is scum
Wonder if the girl is ok after just 2.5 years to get on with her life? I doubt it
Got a lenient sentance for got reason! Realy
Of course you would still have that opionon if it was your daughter wouldn't you?
Thought not!
You would think he would want to stay out the public eye for a bit?
But shows he has no remorse and how arragant and thick skinned he is! Just like lee hughes was!
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I'd vote with my feet and send back my season ticketross1 said:I wonder what people would say if we signed him
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I have to say that although NLA could put it more eloquently I agree 100% with what he has said.3
