Borg v Ibrahimovic

Asked for his top Swedes, he replied: "I would have been No 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, with due respect to the others."

Extraordinary person.

soapboxsam said:

Untill 3 years ago, could never live up to his own hype.
Borg always let his grand slams do his talking.

would like to see him play alongside Igor.
you known he would get some stick from CAFC folk who think he's lazy ! (would he take 12k a week)

I think his stats and honours throughout his career contradict your claim that he could never live up to his own hype.

Bjorn Borg is Charlton so no contest ... Ibrahimovich loses

I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:

soapboxsam said:

Untill 3 years ago, could never live up to his own hype.
Borg always let his grand slams do his talking.

would like to see him play alongside Igor.
you known he would get some stick from CAFC folk who think he's lazy ! (would he take 12k a week)

I think his stats and honours throughout his career contradict your claim that he could never live up to his own hype.

In his own head, he thinks he's as good as Ronaldo or Messi.

Having watched him play since he was a teenager it's only in the last 3 years he's had more good games than bad.
As for honours Gary Lineker was England best striker in the last 40 years (world cups) but can't remember him
winning much.

Plus Zlatan is arrogant and ugly, which is a terrible combo.

Nowhere near Borg in terms of status but an exceptionally gifted player

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ck5P30zC3Z0

soapboxsam said:

I_Saw_Semedo_Score said:

soapboxsam said:

Untill 3 years ago, could never live up to his own hype.
Borg always let his grand slams do his talking.

would like to see him play alongside Igor.
you known he would get some stick from CAFC folk who think he's lazy ! (would he take 12k a week)

I think his stats and honours throughout his career contradict your claim that he could never live up to his own hype.

In his own head, he thinks he's as good as Ronaldo or Messi.

Having watched him play since he was a teenager it's only in the last 3 years he's had more good games than bad.
As for honours Gary Lineker was England best striker in the last 40 years (world cups) but can't remember him
winning much.

Plus Zlatan is arrogant and ugly, which is a terrible combo.

Delusional. The bloke averaged 2 goals every 3 games at Inter Milan, where he won the league title (three years in a row) - and he left there in 2009. Averaged more than one in two for a pony footballing country like Sweden too - ironically a much superior strikerate to the players you mentioned - Messi and Ronaldo. These are facts, by the way. And no, I'm not say Ibrahimovic is better than them.

Strange that you'd say Ibrahimovic sees himself as in the same bracket as Ronaldo and Messi too. Even though he has openly blamed Messi and Guardiola for being forced out of Barcelona, he has frequently said that Messi is the best player in the world. Even as recently as a couple of weeks ago.

A lot of the stuff he says is to be funny, which, when taken with a pinch of salt, can be.

For someone who is solely a legend in his own mind, he hasn't half won a lot:


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Honours
Club
Ajax
Eredivisie (2): 2001–02, 2003–04
KNVB Cup (1): 2001–02
Johan Cruijff Shield (1): 2002
Juventus
Serie A (2): 2004–05, 2005–06 (both revoked due to the Calciopoli scandal)
Internazionale
Serie A (3): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
Supercoppa Italiana (2): 2006, 2008
Barcelona
La Liga (1): 2009–10
Supercopa de España (2): 2009, 2010
UEFA Super Cup (1): 2009
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2009
Milan
Serie A (1): 2010–11
Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2011
Paris Saint-Germain
Ligue 1 (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Trophée des champions (2): 2013, 2014
Coupe de la Ligue (1): 2013–14
Individual
Golden Foot (1): 2012
FIFA Puskás Award (1): 2013
FIFA FIFPro World XI (1): 2013
UEFA Team of the Year (3): 2007, 2009, 2013
UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament (1): 2012
UEFA Euro 2012 Man of the Match: Sweden vs France
UEFA Euro 2008 Man of the Match: Greece vs Sweden
UEFA Euro 2004 Man of the Match: Italy vs Sweden
UEFA Champions League 2012-13: Most assists [74]
ESM Team of the Year (4): 2006–07, 2007–08, 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Player of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Team of the Year (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Ligue 1 Top Goalscorer (2): 2012–13, 2013–14
Serie A Top Scorer (2): 2009, 2012
Serie A Foreign Footballer of the Year (5): 2005, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2012
Serie A Footballer of the Year (3): 2008, 2009, 2011
Serie A Team of the Year (2): 2010–11, 2011–12
Supercoppa Italiana 2011: Man of the Match
Serie A Player of the Month: January 2012
Guldbollen (9): 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014
Jerringpriset (1): 2007
Swedish Male Athlete of the Year (2): 2007, 2010


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Considering I'm not even a particularly big fan of Ibrahimovic, it seems strange that my longest ever post (which, admittedly has only taken all of three minutes to write but..) is about him. But there we have it....

Merry Christmas Mr. Soapbox!

soapboxsam said:

Untill 3 years ago, could never live up to his own hype.
Borg always let his grand slams do his talking.

would like to see him play alongside Igor.
you known he would get some stick from CAFC folk who think he's lazy ! (would he take 12k a week)

I think hed give us 12k a week not to come

Not eating humble pie Yet,
but his goal scoring record deserves to put him along side Aguero,
Behind Suarez on last seasons form.

Sweden's top 3

1.Bjorn Borg
2.Thomas Brolin
3.Zlatan Ibrahimovic

who could argue with that top 3 ?

oohaahmortimer said:

Brolin played for palace so should never appear on there

Too true,

Neither, ABBA win it for me by a mile.

Overrated, my arse, he's won the domestic league he played in all but 2 seasons since 2002, consistently scoring goals throughout his career, has singlehandedly dragged Swedish national football into finals contention, is arrogant as hell, but I have a proper man crush on him, he's a deadly striker and on his day completely unplayable.

oohaahmortimer said:

Brolin played for palace so should never appear on there

Thomas was in the swedish team that came 3rd in world cup in 94 as well as semi in 92 euros.

Brolin was going to be the next big thing in world football, which he became when going to leeds and putting on 4 stone and being voted the second worst footballer to play in the premier league in a poll by the Times.

In 98 his career reach rock bottom when he signed for palace and they had to have a special shirt made for him.
He played 13 times for Palace scoring no goals.

I hope you can see Semedo, just like Zlatan, i have got a sense of humour.

Merry christmas.

soapboxsam said:

oohaahmortimer said:

Brolin played for palace so should never appear on there

Thomas was in the swedish team that came 3rd in world cup in 94 as well as semi in 92 euros.

Brolin was going to be the next big thing in world football, which he became when going to leeds and putting on 4 stone and being voted the second worst footballer to play in the premier league in a poll by the Times.

In 98 his career reach rock bottom when he signed for palace and they had to have a special shirt made for him.
He played 13 times for Palace scoring no goals.

I hope you can see Semedo, just like Zlatan, i have got a sense of humour.

Merry christmas.

Haha absolutely mate, but it wasn't me who called you out on the Brolin shout!