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Charlton v Arsenal 1936

Big William
Big William Posts: 3,845
in General Charlton
Not sure I've ever seen this before

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/BHC_RTV/1936/10/19/BGU407211059/?s=Charlton

Supposedly the biggest ever crowd at The Valley, even though we only owned up to 68000 at the time

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  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,370
    must have been kid a quid that day
  • WSS
    WSS Posts: 25,070
    I thought our biggest crowd was 75k against Villa in the cup
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,481
    There were still empty spaces in block A.
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,845
    edited December 2014
    True WSS, the biggest official crowd was against Villa, but popular belief (via Colin Cameron) was that the 1936 game was actually nearer 80000 than the 68000 announced, seems the gates were closed 15 minutes before kick-off and thousands bunked in. According to CC the loudspeaker broke down so they couldn't pack the crowd properly, although looking at that film there wasn't a whole load of room to squeeze any more in. I wonder what Mick Everitt would make of the people sitting on top of the covered end?
  • Addick in SW16
    Addick in SW16 Posts: 1,421
    Great clip!
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    edited December 2014
    Amazing crowd footage. Thanks for posting.

    Makes you wonder what the real reason was behind The Woolwich Club's move, given that it was supposed to low crowds.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,038
    I'll volunteer to go up on the Covered End roof if it gets a bit too packed against Blackburn next week.
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,968
    edited December 2014
    fantastic crowd footage

  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,785
    I hope Coquelin didn't play. I can't afford another tenner.........
  • BrentfordAddick
    BrentfordAddick Posts: 1,460
    Interesting that the bloke calls it the 'Premier Division'.

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  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Was this the first time we played the franchise?
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Yes, it was.

    http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/head_to_head.sd?team_id=527&team2_id=142

  • sunbury-addick
    sunbury-addick Posts: 1,930
    very poor away following
  • sunbury-addick
    sunbury-addick Posts: 1,930
    BrentfordAddick said:

    Interesting that the bloke calls it the 'Premier Division'.

    yeah I thought that spose it is/was tho
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,362
    Vincenzo said:

    Yes, it was.

    http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/head_to_head.sd?team_id=527&team2_id=142

    Good at these derbies ain't we?
  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    I'm afraid not, but what a joy it is when we win one. Beating Arsenal is up there with the birth of my children.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,056
    soapy_jones said:

    Vincenzo said:

    Yes, it was.

    http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/head_to_head.sd?team_id=527&team2_id=142

    Good at these derbies ain't we?
    1947/48 was a rough season.
  • stockportugaladdick
    stockportugaladdick Posts: 1,140
    My granddad was at that game. Every time he heard someone say that the Valley was the only ground never to have been filled to capacity he would say cobblers then harp on about that game and how the Valley was full to bursting. Looking at that great piece of film, I now agree with him, I doubt you could have squeezed another person in that day.

    He knew someone who worked at the club and was told a turnstile was broken down and an estimated 20k got in unaccounted for.
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,609
    edited December 2014
    My uncle used to work on the turnstiles and he said that the operators could keep their foot on the pedal, let 2 people through at once and pocket the payment. He said that although you couldn't do it too often without raising suspicion, most of them used to do it at every game.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,021
    Magnificent. This should be made a sticky !

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  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,008
    Always used to pay a few pence and squeeze 2 of us through. Sometimes we even went under. Rob Lee used to charge 6 pence, thieving bastard.
  • cashncarry
    cashncarry Posts: 980
    Great crowd pics ,looks more than the offical attendance.My dad always said Charlton crowds started dropping when the trams stopped.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Did they count season ticket holders who didn't turn up?
  • LoonyBin
    LoonyBin Posts: 49
    Vincenzo said:

    Amazing crowd footage. Thanks for posting.

    Makes you wonder what the real reason was behind The Woolwich Club's move, given that it was supposed to low crowds.

    Arsenal did move because of low crowds, but it must be remembered that, at that time, Blackheath Rugby Club were attracting huge crowds for their matches, in addition to staging international matches at the Rectory Field.

    It was rugby wot dun it.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,886
    stockportaddick said:

    My granddad was at that game. Every time he heard someone say that the Valley was the only ground never to have been filled to capacity he would say cobblers then harp on about that game and how the Valley was full to bursting. Looking at that great piece of film, I now agree with him, I doubt you could have squeezed another person in that day.

    He knew someone who worked at the club and was told a turnstile was broken down and an estimated 20k got in unaccounted for.

    Pretty sure this is the game my late father attended and used to refer to as a bigger crowd than the Villa game. He reckoned the gates were busted open but for sure he said thousands definitely got in in for nothing, not that my Dad as an18 year old, would have ever done anything like that. ;-)
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,021
    LoonyBin said:

    Vincenzo said:

    Amazing crowd footage. Thanks for posting.

    Makes you wonder what the real reason was behind The Woolwich Club's move, given that it was supposed to low crowds.

    Arsenal did move because of low crowds, but it must be remembered that, at that time, Blackheath Rugby Club were attracting huge crowds for their matches, in addition to staging international matches at the Rectory Field.

    It was rugby wot dun it.
    How did Blackheath attract huge crowds ? I thought to this day, they only had one tiny stand ?

    What was their average crowd ?
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    cashncarry said:

    Great crowd pics ,looks more than the offical attendance.My dad always said Charlton crowds started dropping when the trams stopped.

    I blame John Logie Baird, for our crowds dropping during the 50's
    Even now the fair weather fans will stay in on a evening game and watch the champions league,
    rather than suffer with the rest of us.

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