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**Luzon Confirmed Charlton Head Coach - Deal to 2016 - Praise the Lord, Work Permit GRANTED (pg 24)*

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  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    Airman Brown said:

    In my experience, few professional journalists will report things they don't genuinely believe are true.

    And there is where the subjective part comes in to play.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,307
    Airman Brown said:

    In my experience, few professional journalists will report things they don't genuinely believe are true. What they are often guilty of is running something because it is newsworthy without sufficient verification. The more newsworthy something is the bigger the temptation and hence mistakes get made. Given the Standard don't care about Charlton, I doubt this is made up, but it may not be accurate either.

    I agree. They shouldn't be pulling things out their arse, but I just get the feeling the London clubs outside the Prem are a headache for them
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,994
    The press conference

    http://youtu.be/c0K_zyvYlp8
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,966
    Airman Brown said:

    In my experience, few professional journalists will report things they don't genuinely believe are true. What they are often guilty of is running something because it is newsworthy without sufficient verification. The more newsworthy something is the bigger the temptation and hence mistakes get made. Given the Standard don't care about Charlton, I doubt this is made up by them, but it may not be accurate either.

    Have you ever read, as an example, the Europhobic fairy tales in the Daily Mail or Sun?
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,966
    At least it wasn't Di Canio. Now I don't have to give my season ticket back.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,388
    Katrien does know Sir Alex Ferguson was allowed to pick his own team, decide on transfer targets, players and staff and was given longer than six months does she? Oh, and he had experience of managing a British clubs before he joined Manchester United.
  • WestCountryAddick
    WestCountryAddick Posts: 2,545
    To be fair, I think the analogy was more to do with how much time he spent at Man United rather than comparing him as a manager.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,420
    WestCountryAddick said:

    To be fair, I think the analogy was more to do with how much time he spent at Man United rather than comparing him as a manager.

    So just delusional then
  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    edited January 2015
    WestCountryAddick said:

    To be fair, I think the analogy was more to do with how much time he spent at Man United rather than comparing him as a manager.

    Even worse, why couldn't she have said 'he could be our own Billy McKay' or whoever that Watford manager was who lasted 2 days
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Lu
    Bedsaddick said:

    The press conference

    http://youtu.be/c0K_zyvYlp8

    If you watch this from 2.11 to 2.46

    Then compare it with this:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qroJLsECsFY

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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,439
    'What attracted you this job?'

    Pffft
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,792
    The Red Robin said:

    Airman Brown said:

    In my experience, few professional journalists will report things they don't genuinely believe are true. What they are often guilty of is running something because it is newsworthy without sufficient verification. The more newsworthy something is the bigger the temptation and hence mistakes get made. Given the Standard don't care about Charlton, I doubt this is made up, but it may not be accurate either.

    I used to work in trade press in my industry and I probably would have got the sack if I couldn't have backed up my sources, named or not.
    AddicksAddict said:

    Airman Brown said:

    In my experience, few professional journalists will report things they don't genuinely believe are true. What they are often guilty of is running something because it is newsworthy without sufficient verification. The more newsworthy something is the bigger the temptation and hence mistakes get made. Given the Standard don't care about Charlton, I doubt this is made up by them, but it may not be accurate either.

    Have you ever read, as an example, the Europhobic fairy tales in the Daily Mail or Sun?
    That's a fair point, but that's propaganda rather than journalism, in my opinion.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,388
    edited January 2015
    Airman Brown said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Airman Brown said:

    In my experience, few professional journalists will report things they don't genuinely believe are true. What they are often guilty of is running something because it is newsworthy without sufficient verification. The more newsworthy something is the bigger the temptation and hence mistakes get made. Given the Standard don't care about Charlton, I doubt this is made up, but it may not be accurate either.

    I used to work in trade press in my industry and I probably would have got the sack if I couldn't have backed up my sources, named or not.
    AddicksAddict said:

    Airman Brown said:

    In my experience, few professional journalists will report things they don't genuinely believe are true. What they are often guilty of is running something because it is newsworthy without sufficient verification. The more newsworthy something is the bigger the temptation and hence mistakes get made. Given the Standard don't care about Charlton, I doubt this is made up by them, but it may not be accurate either.

    Have you ever read, as an example, the Europhobic fairy tales in the Daily Mail or Sun?
    That's a fair point, but that's propaganda rather than journalism, in my opinion.
    Point taken Airman. There may have been a certain element of 'spin' involved. Lies however, definitely not. Either way, I didn't consider myself to be a journalist.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 64,436
    seth plum said:

    Lu

    Bedsaddick said:

    The press conference

    http://youtu.be/c0K_zyvYlp8

    If you watch this from 2.11 to 2.46

    Then compare it with this:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qroJLsECsFY
    What's he saying?
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,138
    HandG said:

    Fanny, if I were you I'd copy and paste your brilliant post word for word and email it directly to to KM. It sums up perfectly how many of us are feeling and I'd be intrigued by her response.

    And if you don't want to send it over, is it all right if I do? :-)

    Don't believe I have posted anything libellous (sp?) so go ahead ( my pasting skills are for wallpaper only)

    But I feel it would be appropriate to do so saying that this is a post on a Charlton forum that you feel hits the spot?

    Those who read CL at the Club are invariably aware who I am but best keep it anonymous please ie "a contributor to a Charlton forum "

    And I'm humbled by your reaction TBH. I'm only saying what I believe a lot of Addicks are thinking.



    Fanny, my tongue was rather in my cheek when I made that request and I certainly wouldn't pretend they were my words if I were to send them on! I've noted your comments though and, given that we've been told what sounds like more porkies today (re more interviewees), I would be even more interested to hear what KM has to say. I suspect it may be a pointless gesture though......
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Callumcafc said:

    seth plum said:

    Lu

    Bedsaddick said:

    The press conference

    http://youtu.be/c0K_zyvYlp8

    If you watch this from 2.11 to 2.46

    Then compare it with this:



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qroJLsECsFY
    What's he saying?
    He is saying that he has never heard of Riga who had just been appointed Charlton manager (you can judge for yourself if it is in a mocking style). At the time players from his club had already been interacting with Charlton. he later says he is not interested in, or doesn't care about Charlton.

    In todays press conference he sits up straight and says he is well aware about, and knowledgeable about Charlton because of his past dealings, which were from January 2014. The video is from March 2014.

    Some may muse as to whether this is a man of integrity and honesty in relation to his connection with our club. I think the stuff makes him look a bit suspect.
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,641
    I appreciate he,s only just walked in the door, but he surely expected that interview and those questions would be posed in the interview. In which case it was a pretty poor show, and has done nothing to infuse any enthusiasm into me.

    If that's was a job interview he,d be unemployed now, as opposed to being unemployed in May.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    RaplhMilne said:

    I appreciate he,s only just walked in the door, but he surely expected that interview and those questions would be posed in the interview. In which case it was a pretty poor show, and has done nothing to infuse any enthusiasm into me.

    If that's was a job interview he,d be unemployed now, as opposed to being unemployed in May.

    One very plausible explanation is that he woke up in a parallel universe.
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Don't like the guy for his outing of a fan in Isreal for one of his teams there, literally shouting at the lad . Looks arrogant as fuck too. Watching that it doesn't have the feel of a head coach of the football club I support, just someone thrown into a job.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,259
    A bit irrational and without justification of any kind but I have an instinct of dislike for the guy. Just seems a bit smarmy and shallow. But I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

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  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,813
    I habe the same feeling. He doesnt seem like a charlton person. I hope i habe this wrong.
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    Danny Addick said:

    I'm upset that we were duped into thinking that other managers would be considered. However, I do actually think he'll be quite good (as long as he's given long enough!)

    Thats good news.
    So relieved he has you seal of approval.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,471
    Rob said:

    I can't understand people being pissed off. Get behind the team FFS. If this bloke is the dogs bollox you'll all be licking his arse soon anyway. Let's give him a chance.

    Is it the Belgium/foreign thing that people just don't like? I just don't get the negativity. Sorry.

    I am pleased for you.

    If you are not unhappy and cannot see the problems at the club then fair enough.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,471
    Braziliance said:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=zQszA0oJmWc

    Saw it on ITTV so thought I'd post it on here for people who haven't seen it, this was him arguing with some fans of the club he managed back in 07 I think.

    Understood this more than I did his press conference today!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,471
    Braziliance said:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=zQszA0oJmWc

    Saw it on ITTV so thought I'd post it on here for people who haven't seen it, this was him arguing with some fans of the club he managed back in 07 I think.

    Understood this more than I did his press conference today!
    Bedsaddick said:

    Is there meant to be a press conference today ?

    There was meant to be one until they discovered he cannot speak English.
  • PL54
    PL54 Posts: 10,757
    Just seen that interview for the first time

    He didn't do too bad for someone operating in their (very) 2nd choice language

    The reference to Premiership football was poor but otherwise no dramas

    He is young though

  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    colin1961 said:

    Have to say he come across very keen and someone who wants to be here ... If he can run the team and deliver like he talks then we could have a manager who might deliver the big prize

    Hope to see him sliding across the pitch on his knees lots of time for us

    Is this serious
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    Sillybilly said:

    A bit irrational and without justification of any kind but I have an instinct of dislike for the guy. Just seems a bit smarmy and shallow. But I will give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

    I found his body language very confusing. I felt unsettled watching the interview.

  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,934
    @seth plum‌ I found that very interesting myself. At one time I could understand a bit of French, but the subtleties of that are above me. Perhaps a fluid french speaker can translate the text to English (there are French subtitles, so long as you enable them with the cc button). Anyone?

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