We lost against the team that are pushing hard for automatic promotion and beat a strong Man City team in the FA Cup, hardly unexpected...
But what about our games against Blackpool, Rotherham, Brighton,Wigan, Millwall, etc we have not beaten any of them. We have won six games all season. When we celebrate getting beaten 3-1 to Middlesborough, it shows how far we have fallen.
After being a season ticket since at least since about 1987 that's it. That is me no more. I am finished. I am not prepared to pay anymore of my hard earned cashed to this owner.
While I'd never start a thread about no longer going to games, even if that was a decision I had made (which it isn't), I can see why so many are disillusioned. For me, it's not even that we're losing. People don't support Charlton because they expect us to win every week - that's not what we do.
People support Charlton because it's their local a team, a club we all have close ties with, and a club whose existence was secured in the most unorthodox way by thousands of fans who fought so hard to make it happen.
What we have now is not Charlton. It's one persons play thing, an experiment. I don't recognise my own club any more. I can deal with getting beaten most weeks as long as the players give their all. I struggle to deal with watching the club I've followed for more than two decades transform into a soulless, poisonous outfit with familiar faces seemingly departing on a near-weekly basis. F off Roland, and take your CEO with you. Both hopelessly out of their depth. And people thought Bob was the problem!
Summed up well, Roland the rat doesn't give a toss if we get relegated as long as we can produce half decent players to move onto standard leige and for them to be sold for a nice number.
Evidence for that?
All those players we have developed and then joined SL, such as Thuram, going nowhere till he played for us now their first choice
No problem with people being unhappy with the current mess. No problem with those who will no longer buy anything from the club other the match tickets.
But why stop going, the club and it's real fans are always around longer than owners.
Im one of those fans who has not given up but is almost not caring about the results right now, i would happily still get excited to watch Charlton in the Conference, i don't care about the results for my love of Charlton, i just can't bring myself to support the UK branch of the RD network that just happens to still have our branding over it.
As each month goes on we become less and less the Charlton i fell in love with(that might be different to others) and from reading these forums the last year, im clearly not the only one who is depressed that has nothing to do with results, everything to do with the way the club now operates under the Staprix umbrella.
I can understand the posters who just wish to carry on like nothing is happening, as i was one a year ago but my eyes are open now to what we are stuck with until change of owner or a vast change of opinion by RD.
I was a fan who went to all the games at Selhurst - I couldn't understand those who didn't. But I realise that if more had gone to Selhurst, we might still be playing there - if we still existed that is. I was of the view - support your club and it is true the club needed a few die hards like me- but it also needed those who felt so strongly they refused to attend. I can see that now. I may not renew and not come back until I feel my club has returned - at least in some shape or form. This isn't the fans' club anymore- it belongs to a Belgian lunatic and it isn't just the results - it is everything.
We lost a lot of fans, but uniting to get us back ensured that we were a bigger part of the club and we got our fans back and some. Thanks to people like Airman and Murray - when he had some teeth and balls - not the sad puppet he is now - sadly.
Some of the responses to Rudders22 are cheap and rude. Here's a fan of many years' standing that's totally hacked off - and with very good reason - yet he's derided by some as if he's a nobody. I appreciate that some people will keep supporting the club come-what-may - and good luck to them for that. But there are plenty others who have had enough and fell very badly let down. It would a much nicer Forum if the sniping would cease. It's difficult enough as things are without Addicks trying score points against each other.
100% bang on the money.
I can remember standing on the East terrace with just over 4000 at a game at the Valley against the like of Halifax. It took a couple of decades for M. Glikstein to achieve what the current owner will replicate in a couple of years.
The hard core of our support is going not the fair weather supporters.
I do think we have gone about this the wrong way - had well called for Powell's head, Thuram to start, Kermogant to go and no signings, we probably would have got the opposite. I honestly think this owner is mad and part of his ego trip is winding up the fans- why? Well as KM told the standard- because he can!
I am surprised by how dismissive some Charlton supporters are of long standing supporters saying enough is enough. Duchatelet strategy is shrinking the club and support. That should be of a concern to all.
It is entirely possible without decent loans that Charlton will end up in League One. In league one crowds are very possibly going to fall in the direction of late 60's and late 70's numbers with 6,000 and 7,000 at home and sub 5,000 for cold evening games.
The income will be significantly reduced. How will he achieve his plan for the club to break even ? Duchatelet may be tempted, down the road, to exploit the real estate of the Valley. Greenwich Council would be very happy for some social housing on the site. Charlton renting a cheap crappy ground from Staprix (or sharing) who rakes in all the profit from any commercial ventures.
So Rudders is giving up. Like a guy who is about to commit suicide he tells everyone so they can talk him out of it.
Well if that was the aim, it backfired then, didn't it. Instead of a chorus of dismissive "Seeya"s why not try and find out what's bothering him and try to convince him it's worth carrying on? That'd be a bit more constructive a response.
The club is no longer the club I love - I hold hope, based on previous experience that us fans can unite to get it back. The see you merchants are the problem, not the solution if we are going to get our club back. What we are seeing is final straw after final straw being reached. We need leaders and enemies to unite - Airman, Razil, even Reams on ITTV - need to cast aside their differences and target the owner and his lackies- we have to start landing some blows on him.
Point of order - I may seem to collect enemies like stamps, but I don't recognise Razil as one. He was very much part of the G21 discussion last year and I have been sharing ideas with the trust over the public meeting. In between, we may have been seen in the same curry house on more than one occasion together with other VOTV contributors, trust board members and others. We might not have identical views on tactics, but there's no feud between VOTV and the trust.
As for Reams, I don't know him and I'm not a regular visitor to his message board, but he did come over, introduce himself and shake hands before the Rotherham game.
I would have to agree with this post and it's not coz we lost AGAIN today it's the way the club's being run its like a play thing or some sort of tax dodge.charlton athletic will always be deep in my heart but once this season has finished how ever that maybe by going down,staying up or the complete shock by getting play offs I'm going to take a long break from roland the bastard rat and his puppets shenanigans I can't sit and watch what's happening
After being a season ticket since at least since about 1987 that's it. That is me no more. I am finished. I am not prepared to pay anymore of my hard earned cashed to this owner.
following a football team aint all about the football--if it was only a handful of clubs would actually have anyone watching em.
Its about bonding with your Dad as above with your mates meeting new mates developing life long friendships bonding wit your son or nephews or great nephews, grandsons its the partys you went to after its the sad times its the darkside--court pain fines and worse very seldom its the blind euphoric stunning win---seldom
RD cant take away OUR club because we ARE THE FUCKING CLUB---our collective memories.
been there when there was 3,000 on a rainy night against Halifax and Killer scored a hatrick and i guess ill be there (not every game) when many thousands have stopped going, but the memories of those people will still be there.
following a football team aint all about the football--if it was only a handful of clubs would actually have anyone watching em.
Its about bonding with your Dad as above with your mates meeting new mates developing life long friendships bonding wit your son or nephews or great nephews, grandsons its the partys you went to after its the sad times its the darkside--court pain fines and worse very seldom its the blind euphoric stunning win---seldom
RD cant take away OUR club because we ARE THE FUCKING CLUB---our collective memories.
been there when there was 3,000 on a rainy night against Halifax and Killer scored a hatrick and i guess ill be there (not every game) when many thousands have stopped going, but the memories of those people will still be there.
All these "See ya" merchants don't get that die hard are walking away...no doubt they are season ticket holders for Charlton away games.
I just posted Ok, cheerio then saw this. As our own AFKA can testify I was a very regular away traveller for many, many, many years. I had an away season ticket for the years when the Club sold them. I've been up at 6am to get a coach to Boro or Newcastle etc. I left work early to get to Birmingham for the play off replay, went to Preston when our Burnley match was cancelled, saw our disgraceful defeat at Northwich, hell I was stil going away games when Parky was taking us into oblivion. You get the picture. I'm Charlton till I die. I support the team, not the owner, the CEO etc. I will be getting a season ticket next year too. If you don't want to get one then fair enough but why feel the need to tell us all? I'm saddened people feel this way but I will continue to support the team. If I could go to Sellout week in week out then the current situation is a piece of piss.
Glad you got that off your chest..but either you feel the need to tell how great you are in which certain people will testify how long I have been going, week in week out for years as well as the four generations of my family..what does cheese me off about this site is the muggy comments make on here which has no relevance to the subject whatsoever..Personally I thought this was a fans forum not an audition for wanna be comics or left wingers. Finally what people are missing is that under this ownership things will continue to stay the same or get worse. The owners don't get the English game,the managers are sub standard and the players are not used to this level of football let alone good enough.
Believe me I was not trying to tell anyone how great I am, maybe the poster was because he felt the need to tell us that after many years supporting home and away, he's had enough. Each to their own, if someone doesn't want to go anymore then fair enough, their decision, but why the need to tell us? Just don't renew, don't come. Or is everyone going to start a thread when they have decided to renew or not?
can,t contact goonerhater,but there are a lot worse teams to hate than arsenal,never done us no harm mate
To be fair to Goonerhater that sums up why some of us go, to see old mates and family, plus he hates the Arsenal because he can remember when they were our local derby !
So what is the result of all the player shenanigans, and the head coach malarkey since we joined the network? That our support is expected whatever the results? I am Guy Luzon's blood brother, I like to win and I don't like to lose, and I expect this much wiser than me network to deliver wins. FFS, hoping for better than this is beginning to feel as wrong as Oliver Twist asking for a second bowl of gruel in the eyes of some fans here, and some fans are speaking like Mr Bumble's minions if we dare be unhappy with a sodding defeat.
People like Rudders have no doubt seen countless defeats. But they had an affinity with the club and felt part of it.
following a football team aint all about the football--if it was only a handful of clubs would actually have anyone watching em.
Its about bonding with your Dad as above with your mates meeting new mates developing life long friendships bonding wit your son or nephews or great nephews, grandsons its the partys you went to after its the sad times its the darkside--court pain fines and worse very seldom its the blind euphoric stunning win---seldom
RD cant take away OUR club because we ARE THE FUCKING CLUB---our collective memories.
been there when there was 3,000 on a rainy night against Halifax and Killer scored a hatrick and i guess ill be there (not every game) when many thousands have stopped going, but the memories of those people will still be there.
more than a football club
He can't take it away, but he can piss it up the wall through ineptitude or neglect
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Like a guy who is about to commit suicide he tells everyone so they can talk him out of it.
People need to just shut up and support the team
Sounds like 1985 all over again
But why stop going, the club and it's real fans are always around longer than owners.
As each month goes on we become less and less the Charlton i fell in love with(that might be different to others) and from reading these forums the last year, im clearly not the only one who is depressed that has nothing to do with results, everything to do with the way the club now operates under the Staprix umbrella.
I can understand the posters who just wish to carry on like nothing is happening, as i was one a year ago but my eyes are open now to what we are stuck with until change of owner or a vast change of opinion by RD.
I can remember standing on the East terrace with just over 4000 at a game at the Valley against the like of Halifax. It took a couple of decades for M. Glikstein to achieve what the current owner will replicate in a couple of years.
The hard core of our support is going not the fair weather supporters.
It is entirely possible without decent loans that Charlton will end up in League One. In league one crowds are very possibly going to fall in the direction of late 60's and late 70's numbers with 6,000 and 7,000 at home and sub 5,000 for cold evening games.
The income will be significantly reduced. How will he achieve his plan for the club to break even ? Duchatelet may be tempted, down the road, to exploit the real estate of the Valley. Greenwich Council would be very happy for some social housing on the site. Charlton renting a cheap crappy ground from Staprix (or sharing) who rakes in all the profit from any commercial ventures.
Who then will be around to stop him ?
The easy thing is walking away, There are so many issues at the moment,
But Roland is yet another owner who is out of kilter with the fans.
As someone who kept going when we played at Sainsburys and East ham for me i have only stopped going when work got in the way.
Even the team in Surrey are run by Fans who have made good in the business world.
I know for most of our History we fans have had no connection with the owners of our club, other than Alwen/ Murray(part 1).
I despair at the negative tactics of our recent coaches as much as the Network Model.
These are tough times to be a cafc fan.
It's feel like we are a 99p shop, who hope to be taken over by poundland some day soon.
As for Reams, I don't know him and I'm not a regular visitor to his message board, but he did come over, introduce himself and shake hands before the Rotherham game.
Its about bonding with your Dad
as above with your mates
meeting new mates
developing life long friendships
bonding wit your son or nephews or great nephews, grandsons
its the partys you went to after
its the sad times
its the darkside--court pain fines and worse
very seldom its the blind euphoric stunning win---seldom
RD cant take away OUR club because we ARE THE FUCKING CLUB---our collective memories.
been there when there was 3,000 on a rainy night against Halifax and Killer scored a hatrick and i guess ill be there (not every game) when many thousands have stopped going, but the memories of those people will still be there.
more than a football club
I honestly believe we have got more players in because we got from abroad than we would have if we had spent the same money here for the same quality.
A relegation fight is just as much fun as anything else. Just enjoy the highs chaps, you are alongtime dead!