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Trust Calls Public Meeting of Fans - Woolwich Grand Theatre – Wed 18th Feb 7.30pm

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  • PL54 said:

    sam3110 said:

    Thing is, who would bother going to a meeting like this with a pro network mindset? Anyone who is pro network and therefore not as worried by the direction of the club isn't going to go out of their way to attend a supporters group meeting in Woolwich.

    I am fairly pro network, I live in Woolwich and wouldn't dream of going along, as I know the majority of people there are of the opposite view to me and will not listen to my views. I'm not saying I'd necessarily listen to theirs either but that's life.

    The silent
    Certainly not you.
  • Did Steve Clarke give a perspective on how things are done at Southend ;-)
  • "Tonight was exactly what I expected. Big turnout of numbers (and that should not be played down in any way) of disenchanted people, but no singular approach and reason of why they are disenchanted and what should collectively be done about it."

    So bar getting numbers together, what was the point?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Is this from last nights meeting? Or is it from a saga holidays get together (;
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,984

    Pleased i went, no masterplan tonight, but good to hear the different views.
    The pro Roland folk missed a trick tonight, you could have got your views across and you would have been applauded, mainly for having the bottle to speak.
    still don't worry you can go back to being keyboard warriors.

    Some CL love to have a pop at Airman, you would have been disappointed tonight
    he didn't say we should storm his two chalets but keep on trying to put our points across for now.

    The 71 year old chap who said we should by pass Katrien to get to Roland, by email or text or paper plane made a good case.

    Covered end said we would have more chance with Murray than Katrien to get our message across.

    Steve Dixon was very ani the network of clubs, and another couple of guys said they would rather us be in League 2 as long as we had a charlton fan/fans in charge. ? that would mean i would have to turn up and want us to lose,

    sorry guys that not in my DNA to do that. But i do understand the sentiment.

    Are all pro RD keyboard warriors then?
  • I thought it was a good meeting. I expect Roland will improve communication as a result of it, although I don't expect it to be very reliable. It's going to be interesting to see what the next step will be if things don't improve.
  • stonemuse said:

    Proposed that the Trust takes on lead role in dialogue with club.

    And the trust have been told by KM that she doesn't believe in you.

    I think I've got this now, this is the trust's way of saying look at us, look at how important we are & we've but on a big meeting - added to the ego trip from disgruntled ex employees and it all makes sense
  • rikofold
    rikofold Posts: 4,051
    Yes that's it. That's why only Trust members were there.
  • I was there last night and I'm 27, so hopefully represent a younger generation of fans. I also took my dad along who is now a full CAST member!

    I knew it would be well attended but didn't expect there to be 400 plus. It was packed!

    It was a great evening and it was good to hear views from fans with different perspectives. No one was shouted down.

    Airman Brown's speech was excellent and it's just a shame that the club aren't willing to take his advice on board. They're missing a trick there in my opinion.

    We do have to keep trying for dialogue, first of all directly with Roland, and set him a deadline for a response. If that passes then we engage Richard Murray as it sounds as if he shares our concerns, privately at least. There's no point in trying to develop a relationship with Katrien as she's not interested, and in my view has underestimated our fans and is too dismissive of our ideas and proposals.

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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,645
    edited February 2015
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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,038

    stonemuse said:

    Proposed that the Trust takes on lead role in dialogue with club.

    And the trust have been told by KM that she doesn't believe in you.

    I think I've got this now, this is the trust's way of saying look at us, look at how important we are & we've but on a big meeting - added to the ego trip from disgruntled ex employees and it all makes sense
    Did you go last night Ultra ? If so I'm surprised you could have come away with that opinion.
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,987
    I think it was productive, although for a while it felt like regurgitated opinions from online. I realise that not all there spend time on message boards.

    400 is a great turn out. Although Roland does not really bow to pressure, he did sack Luzon after Liege fans rioted. There is therefore some precedent.

    Most people want more dialogue with the club but I’m in the camp that thinks that’ll be useless. We’d only get more lies.

    In terms of actions I think it would be good to discuss ideas with Ujpest, Liege, etc. A Chris Powell chant in the third minute against Huddersfield would also go directly at Meire. I (rather feebly) mentioned the Trust contacting club sponsors, those with boxes and ad boards. Many of them will be Charlton fans – if they’re fed up then they’ll remove their thousands of pounds of backing and that will send a message.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited February 2015

    stonemuse said:

    Proposed that the Trust takes on lead role in dialogue with club.

    And the trust have been told by KM that she doesn't believe in you.

    I think I've got this now, this is the trust's way of saying look at us, look at how important we are & we've but on a big meeting - added to the ego trip from disgruntled ex employees and it all makes sense
    Absolute tosh, you couldn't be farther from the truth, I am not a trust member. An excellent meeting and extremely stirring speech from Airman. I'm glad I was able to get there and any communication progress will be an improvement on the current state of affairs, might be slow but at least the ball has started rolling. Well done to all those fellow attendees last night whether pro or anti RD, you did our club proud.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    I'm not a trust member (yet), nor do I have any strong feelings one way or the other about it, but I certainly did not find anything untoward by way of recruitment drives or Trust plugging last night at all. The meeting was very efficiently arranged and managed and a credit to the trust. Whether we are all pissing in the wind may be another story but the trust bashers have nothing to be concerned about from last night IMHO.
  • Don't mean to be cynical but having followed the event on this site and Twitter, it seems like all that was achieved was a platform for the usual suspects to play politician. I just hope that this doesn't drive a bigger wedge between supporters and the club.
  • StevieK
    StevieK Posts: 304
    It seems to me that the meeting was a great success and did not live up to my own fears of how 'pro' views would be heard. So many, many congratulations to all concerned.
  • Just wanted to take this opportunity to say thanks for putting the meeting together last night. There were some great speakers from both sides of the arguments and it was nice to see things go off in a very civilised manner. It was well worth the miles I drove to be among fans that cared about the club (whether worried about RD or not) and I was pleased to see so many turn up.
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  • Don't mean to be cynical but having followed the event on this site and Twitter, it seems like all that was achieved was a platform for the usual suspects to play politician. I just hope that this doesn't drive a bigger wedge between supporters and the club.

    As that is the complete opposite of the desired objective, it's unlikely.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    edited February 2015
    Stig said:

    I echo what others say, it was a positive meeting, well managed and respectful of others' views. The general consensus was that of seeking proper dialog with the club. Several suggestions were put forward as to how to try and achieve that. Though because of time constraints none of those ideas were really tested, they were just put out there in the open.

    If the meeting achieved nothing else, it was proof that Charlton fans have very genuine concerns for the way the club is being run and a very genuine willingness to help improve things. We've heard that the current owner wants to run the club as a business along a cautious and prudent path. It beggars belief that anyone whose mindset is to run a business in such a conscientious manner would not want to sit up and take notice when 400 customers turn up to a meeting to demonstrate their concern. It wasn't 400 people turning up for a free game of football or a picnic in the park and it wasn't just a bored bunch of e-protesters whinging online. It was 400 people who turned out on a freezing cold night to sit or stand for two hours in a decidedly chilly room to air their discomfort because they absolutely love this football club. Katrien, Roland, please stop ignoring us. We want this club to be successful more than anyone. There will always be a bulk of people who will follow Charlton come what may, but if your actions or omissions alienate fans you'll find it harder than ever to meet your business objectives. I don't say that as a threat, but as statement of reality.

    Well said Stig. There will always be a bulk of people who follow Charlton come what may. I consider myself one of them with 40 years service man and boy. But people like you, me and most others on here are not the most important Charlton fans. They are the ones that are less committed and that we will lose or even the ones we may never gain. they are the ones who will make a difference. It is like the general election, it is all focused on the voters who float - the bankers are banked. The terrible communication and management of this regime has got to the fans Charlton should bank on, so how are we going to keep and attract the fans we need to to progress. I think Duchatelet might be best looking for a CEO who knows the Championship and has the desired communication skills. Sometimes it is not the direction, but the communication around it that messes everything up.
  • Don't mean to be cynical but having followed the event on this site and Twitter, it seems like all that was achieved was a platform for the usual suspects to play politician. I just hope that this doesn't drive a bigger wedge between supporters and the club.

    If you were there, you would have seen that was not the case. Sure there were some prepared speakers, but actually, there were some very articulate views/speeches from the general fans. Whilst I have respect for the guys at the front, it was the views coming from the floor that moved me most, because these were heartfelt opinions from the average supporter.
  • Some photos of the event.
    Just a small selection. more will be on the trust site late today........please click on them to expand
  • ^^

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  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,814
    cant access any of those pics
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041

    "Tonight was exactly what I expected. Big turnout of numbers (and that should not be played down in any way) of disenchanted people, but no singular approach and reason of why they are disenchanted and what should collectively be done about it."

    So bar getting numbers together, what was the point?


    perhaps you should have come along?
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    razil said:

    "Tonight was exactly what I expected. Big turnout of numbers (and that should not be played down in any way) of disenchanted people, but no singular approach and reason of why they are disenchanted and what should collectively be done about it."

    So bar getting numbers together, what was the point?


    perhaps you should have come along?
    maybe he didn't have the means to razil
  • An impassioned speech by Rick, BUT...

    However others may feel, (and I am not going down the "disgruntled employee" route) he needs to take a step back.

    There is an animosity there (not necessarily from his viewpoint) that will drive a wedge between the club and the fans if he remains so vociferous.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,739
    razil said:

    "Tonight was exactly what I expected. Big turnout of numbers (and that should not be played down in any way) of disenchanted people, but no singular approach and reason of why they are disenchanted and what should collectively be done about it."

    So bar getting numbers together, what was the point?


    perhaps you should have come along?
    Why not answer the question?

    Anyway, pleased that it seems it didn't get hi-jacked by a more militant sect.

    But as Falconwood_1 has said Having read this thread I still don't get the point.

    The club have already told you where the lines of communication are, but seemingly that isn't good enough so you are going to continue (maybe, because it doesn't appear to be confirmed anywhere) to bang your heads against a Roland sized brickwall. Sorry, but no amount of "tub thumping" is going to bring him to the table.

    So I ask the same question, what was the point?