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"Arsenal are among a host of Premier League clubs watching Joe Gomez"

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  • seth plum said:

    There has been a massive new deal trumpeted by that dork Scudamore as being worth billions.
    Arsenal have already snaffled a player from us for nothing, let them pay big bags if they want another. anyway a move right now would be bad for Joe Gomez' football development.

    I agree Seth. Carl Jenkinson was playing for Arsenal in the Champions league very soon after joining them. How many players of Champions league quality are purchased for a lousy one million pounds? If Joe has to go, it must be for realistic money that reflects his true potential - which is very considerable indeed!
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,034

    seth plum said:

    There has been a massive new deal trumpeted by that dork Scudamore as being worth billions.
    Arsenal have already snaffled a player from us for nothing, let them pay big bags if they want another. anyway a move right now would be bad for Joe Gomez' football development.

    I agree Seth. Carl Jenkinson was playing for Arsenal in the Champions league very soon after joining them. How many players of Champions league quality are purchased for a lousy one million pounds? If Joe has to go, it must be for realistic money that reflects his true potential - which is very considerable indeed!
    But what if Joe wants to go? Would you want to be the club/manager that prevents a lad from earning more money and playing at a higher level. Piss him off and he will leave when his contract runs out and we get a measly compensation sum. The club have to play this right and so does Joe.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,039
    Well he's got more 2 more years on his contract, with an option of another year, though can we trigger this ourselves if his contract is running down?
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,344
    Whatever happens we will know more about the Belgian's strategy and aims thats for sure.
  • Derek1952
    Derek1952 Posts: 779
    I have supported Charlton since 1952,,(approx) and they have always been a selling club.Reading between the line,s re,Gomez.Nothing has changed.Would not be surprised if one or two more go.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I wasn't even thinking of Jenkinson but Semi Ajayi
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,344
    Derek1952 said:

    I have supported Charlton since 1952,,(approx) and they have always been a selling club.Reading between the line,s re,Gomez.Nothing has changed.Would not be surprised if one or two more go.

    Indeed generation after generation of talent has been sold. What is different here is where in the network will the money go? Before it just went to pay off Charlton's running costs, now?
  • roosel
    roosel Posts: 77
    I'm sure I'm not alone but if he had to go anywhere, I'd prefer it to be Arsenal than Chelsea/City etc...
  • Granpa
    Granpa Posts: 2,995
    If you think about all the millions that come from the Premiership, you must realise that anyone with a penchant for making money will have that firmly in his mind. I am afraid that for all of us plebs, it's wait and see.
  • Folev the red
    Folev the red Posts: 2,087
    Arsenal paid up to £16m for Chambers from Southampton, if all the add-ons are included.
    He at least was playing in the premier league for a year.

    No way are we going to get anything like the figures being thrown around on here. £4/5 million would probably be enough to buy him.

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  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    kentred2 said:

    Derek1952 said:

    I have supported Charlton since 1952,,(approx) and they have always been a selling club.Reading between the line,s re,Gomez.Nothing has changed.Would not be surprised if one or two more go.

    Indeed generation after generation of talent has been sold. What is different here is where in the network will the money go? Before it just went to pay off Charlton's running costs, now?
    And I suppose we've not benefitted at all from any of the "network's" money?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,034
    colthe3rd said:

    kentred2 said:

    Derek1952 said:

    I have supported Charlton since 1952,,(approx) and they have always been a selling club.Reading between the line,s re,Gomez.Nothing has changed.Would not be surprised if one or two more go.

    Indeed generation after generation of talent has been sold. What is different here is where in the network will the money go? Before it just went to pay off Charlton's running costs, now?
    And I suppose we've not benefitted at all from any of the "network's" money?
    We actually paid 2.4 million chocolate coins (Belgian of course) for Vetokele
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    edited April 2015

    Gibbs and what's left of Wilshere have to count

    Ramsey too surely but for wales
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,344
    colthe3rd said:

    kentred2 said:

    Derek1952 said:

    I have supported Charlton since 1952,,(approx) and they have always been a selling club.Reading between the line,s re,Gomez.Nothing has changed.Would not be surprised if one or two more go.

    Indeed generation after generation of talent has been sold. What is different here is where in the network will the money go? Before it just went to pay off Charlton's running costs, now?
    And I suppose we've not benefitted at all from any of the "network's" money?
    Dont know. Hopefully so. Wait and see the accounts. Dont know for example the fee for the loan players etc that will appear against Charlton bit of network etc.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    uie2 said:

    Gibbs and what's left of Wilshere have to count

    Ramsey too surely but for wales
    cant count Ramsey he was almost 18 when he signed for Arsenal and played for the Cardiff first team
  • If Arsenal or anyone else buy Joe it's a punt for them. They won't spend zillions up front on a 17 year old with a handful albeit very good appearances in the championship. They are buying potential. Not the finished article. If £8 is the price on offer then it should be accepted but with some clever bolt ons, a loan back next season and an agreement from the PL club that we can have some other loans and not just the dross either.

    Money talks. Always has and always will.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,375
    I'm curious as to where these numbers come from. Metro saying £8m, people on here saying £20m. Is it just picking a number out of the air and running with it?

    As far as I'm concerned there are very few, if any center backs at Championship level that have Joe's mix of quality/potential/young age - so not even sure who he can be compared to in order to come to a number on his valuation.

    In truth, I'm not really bothered about how much it is - all that bothers me is how much of it goes back into OUR club. Thats the real number we should be concerned about.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,345
    cafctom said:

    I'm curious as to where these numbers come from. Metro saying £8m, people on here saying £20m. Is it just picking a number out of the air and running with it?

    As far as I'm concerned there are very few, if any center backs at Championship level that have Joe's mix of quality/potential/young age - so not even sure who he can be compared to in order to come to a number on his valuation.

    In truth, I'm not really bothered about how much it is - all that bothers me is how much of it goes back into OUR club. Thats the real number we should be concerned about.

    most comments on here are what people want for him, don't think anyone has said that that's how much we will get, just want they would sell him for
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,039

    To be honest I think £8m is an acceptable price. I have a few friends who are Arsenal fans and they saw the news today and asked me about Joe Gomez. I told them he is a truly gifted player, rated very highly by us and is perhaps even better than Jenko. They said £5m is more likely the price they're willing to pay, considering Jenko only cost them around £1m.

    Gomez is better than Jenkinson, and there's clearly far more 'buzz' about him in the football world, especially with the lack of decent young CBs. At the time Jenkinson left, there was surprise that Arsenal wanted him, whereas Gomez's name has been linked with most of the Big 4 type clubs
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,288
    Haven't Arsenal asked £12 million for Jenkinson if West Ham want him permanently?

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  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    cafctom said:

    I'm curious as to where these numbers come from. Metro saying £8m, people on here saying £20m. Is it just picking a number out of the air and running with it?

    If it's in the Metro then yes that is definitely the case.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,793
    I’d take 6 million up front – 2 year loan back and 20% sell on, 2 million 50 games, 1 million England cap.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,288
    Arsenal loaned out Jenkinson who has looked ok in the Premiership and then played Chambers at right back who looked awful every time I saw him, slow, out of position and always seemed to pick up a booking.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,838
    this is inevitable. The best we can hope for is 8 million and have him back for a year
  • CAFC1304
    CAFC1304 Posts: 232

    If Arsenal or anyone else buy Joe it's a punt for them. They won't spend zillions up front on a 17 year old with a handful albeit very good appearances in the championship. They are buying potential. Not the finished article. If £8 is the price on offer then it should be accepted but with some clever bolt ons, a loan back next season and an agreement from the PL club that we can have some other loans and not just the dross either.

    Money talks. Always has and always will.

    It better not be eight quid!
  • The idealist in me says that Rufus and Curbs, stuck it out with Charlton, despite being linked with numerous clubs over the years, in the papers, would love that to be the case now, I'm not doubting Joes massive potential, and I sincerely hope he goes on to be the next Rio Ferdinand, he certainly miles better than Glenn Johnson ever was, but I'd love to see the best of Joes years at Charlton, captaining us in the premiership, I can but dream.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,288
    I always thought Rufus was good but not quite top class, he probably stayed with us because the big clubs didn't rate him.
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  • colin1961 said:

    What these papers are forgetting is
    He is under contract and the player does not want to leave

    So what does Charlton do simple anyone wants him the price is 15 mill plus add ons for future transfer and England caps , plus loan back for 12 months plus a player on loan

    I'm with you but frankly a Prem club offering Joe 20k a week would leave him with an easy choice. Sad but true.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,039
    colin1961 said:

    What these papers are forgetting is
    He is under contract and the player does not want to leave

    So what does Charlton do simple anyone wants him the price is 15 mill plus add ons for future transfer and England caps , plus loan back for 12 months plus a player on loan

    Who knows what the player wants, whether he wants to leave, stay for one for year, or stay until he is 35 and break the club appearance record?