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http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/lee-turner-charlton-goalkeeping-coach-2547844.aspx
Now on OS that Turner has joined.
I know the coaches/CEO are abroad but would just one quote on what a great coach he is/why we've appointed him have been possible?
Not a dig at George or the Comms team.3 -
maybe they have not been informed yet ;-))Henry Irving said:http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/lee-turner-charlton-goalkeeping-coach-2547844.aspx
Now on OS that Turner has joined.
I know the coaches/CEO are abroad but would just one quote on what a great coach he is/why we've appointed him have been possible?
Not a dig at George or the Comms team.
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I said this when Wiggins was on fire that he was one of our best options as a winger. He has pace, was excellent at beating his man and had decent delivery. I think he is worth persevering with. He can fill in as full back when a centre half goes forward and can stay back at corners as he has the pace. Really hope he stays personallyForeverAddickted said:Thing is... Has Wiggins been so bad at Left-Midfield in Pre-Season so far that we should write him off in that position (remember the players are concentrating on fitness rather than finesse at the moment) especially when he's the best of both worlds, i.e. can get forward and put in a good cross but also gives you the added security when supporting Fox in Defence.
When you first hear it, having Fox at LB and Wiggins at LM doesnt sound too bad... You can then have Holmes-Dennis / Harriott as backup.
If we do sign another Left-Midfielder maybe try Wiggins in that slot against Bolton regardless, would certainly give them something to ponder when play them in the league.
After all the last player who started at Left-Back and then moved to Left-Mid didnt do too badly in either position to begin with (i.e. Jackson)
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Cawley Tweeting Hendo,jackson,solly,wiggins and THD set to play at dulwich on saturday.I wonder why they wont be involved against St Truiden?0
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I'm with you on this. IMO we need another 8 or 9 players.SheedyCAFC said:We had a ridiculously thin squad last season, remember when Solly had to play as a CM? With all the players gone in the summer, I'm afraid 6 new faces that Guy says we need is simply not enough.
Especially if you witnessed the second half of the Welling game, definitely no Joe Gomez's coming through this season.2 -
STVV have an artificial pitch so they won't want to risk those recovering from knocks or those with ongoing issues on such a pitchcafc4life said:Cawley Tweeting Hendo,jackson,solly,wiggins and THD set to play at dulwich on saturday.I wonder why they wont be involved against St Truiden?
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I'm sure you're right, BUT, In which case, why screw up your pre-season preparations by playing such a fixture in the first instance?LargeAddick said:
STVV have an artificial pitch so they won't want to risk those recovering from knocks or those with ongoing issues on such a pitchcafc4life said:Cawley Tweeting Hendo,jackson,solly,wiggins and THD set to play at dulwich on saturday.I wonder why they wont be involved against St Truiden?
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Good practice for when we get that Russian outfit in the Champion's League!cafcfan said:
I'm sure you're right, BUT, In which case, why screw up your pre-season preparations by playing such a fixture in the first instance?LargeAddick said:
STVV have an artificial pitch so they won't want to risk those recovering from knocks or those with ongoing issues on such a pitchcafc4life said:Cawley Tweeting Hendo,jackson,solly,wiggins and THD set to play at dulwich on saturday.I wonder why they wont be involved against St Truiden?
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That'll be to many players you'll be leaving first team players out of the squad each week which is no good for team morale.golfaddick said:
I'm with you on this. IMO we need another 8 or 9 players.SheedyCAFC said:We had a ridiculously thin squad last season, remember when Solly had to play as a CM? With all the players gone in the summer, I'm afraid 6 new faces that Guy says we need is simply not enough.
Especially if you witnessed the second half of the Welling game, definitely no Joe Gomez's coming through this season.
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I think there was at the time actually.sam3110 said:
And was shit at Leicester, only played 20 odd games scoring 1 goal, and screwing up that penalty. There would be bloody riots if we signed a player with those stats today!The Red Robin said:
He'd played for Leicester before us and I wasn't trying to disprove Schoham's argument.Callumcafc said:
That doesn't really disprove Scoham's argument though. If anything, it shows that previous experience of Championship football is not a necessary ingredient of a successful signing.The Red Robin said:
Works both ways. Was Tucudean better than Kermorgant?Scoham said:
Do we have to have players with Championship experience? JBG and Bulot were far better than Eagles. Igor and Watt were better than Church and other strikers we've had in the past. Buyens one of the better CMs in recent years.Valley11 said:We really are pinning our hopes on untried Championship players. Please sign a couple of players with experience of the league.
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Surprised Igor isn't on that list!LargeAddick said:
STVV have an artificial pitch so they won't want to risk those recovering from knocks or those with ongoing issues on such a pitchcafc4life said:Cawley Tweeting Hendo,jackson,solly,wiggins and THD set to play at dulwich on saturday.I wonder why they wont be involved against St Truiden?
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As there are no artificial pitches in the Championship,it begs the question,
Other than the two Loves of Katrien's life playing each other,
Why risk it ? The amount of knocks the English women suffered from playing on a non grass surface was crazy.
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Can we all play this game..?DamoNorthStand said:
I think I would swap Mak for maybe Igor if he does the expected job of physicality and threat in the air. Think Mak / Watt or Mak / Igor may turn out to be a better pair in reality.bobcafc7 said:Would be my team at the moment and I guess 5-6 signings would be enough.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
*new
Wiggins
JBG
Cousins
Ba
*new
Vetokele
Watt
Subs.
Pope
Fox
Diarra
Jackson
*new cb
Big mak
*new lw/rw
And you still have Harriot, Moussa, Karlan Grant, Dmitrovic and hopefully another 2 signings.
Think we need a real top class CM with Ba acting as back up to Cousins but need to see more of Ba to firm that up.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
NEW
Wiggins
JBG
NEW
Cousins
NEW
Mak
Watt
Subs:
Pope
NEW CB
Fox
Diarra
Jacko
Ba
Igor (give his Achilles chance to properly recover).
Squad - new utility player, Harriott, Ahearne Grant, Moussa, Dmitrovic, Regan Cook, Obileye
1.Hendo
2.Solly
3.Fox
5..NEW from Maderia (or any other obscure small island with no football tradition to speak of)
6.NEW from Ascension Island or Diego Garcia (as above)
4.NEW but with a weird name and from Belgium please (and with a nice YouTube profile and a fit wife)
7.NEW from Isle of Man or Malta or Treasure Island or Jacko in a Disability Scooter
8.Cousins
11.NEW someone from the Galapagos Islands with a parent popular on social media or fat Len from the burger van (if fit) or JBG if still here (which he wont be of course).
10.Watt or Igor (depending in which one is fit an which one goes to Evening Standard)
9. NEW goalkeeping coach with an eye for goal from the Isle of Dogs or Isle of Sheppey if absolutely necessary.
Subs.
Someone very young from the academy.
someone even younger
someone not yet born but with very athletic parents from Belgium.
Bikey handcuffed and tied to a chair by Luzon
The old bloke who sells programmes outside the club superstore or his Mrs (if fit).
Anyone's fit wife.
Anyone fit
Anyone.
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You're a very strange man.grumpyaddick said:
Can we all play this game..?DamoNorthStand said:
I think I would swap Mak for maybe Igor if he does the expected job of physicality and threat in the air. Think Mak / Watt or Mak / Igor may turn out to be a better pair in reality.bobcafc7 said:Would be my team at the moment and I guess 5-6 signings would be enough.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
*new
Wiggins
JBG
Cousins
Ba
*new
Vetokele
Watt
Subs.
Pope
Fox
Diarra
Jackson
*new cb
Big mak
*new lw/rw
And you still have Harriot, Moussa, Karlan Grant, Dmitrovic and hopefully another 2 signings.
Think we need a real top class CM with Ba acting as back up to Cousins but need to see more of Ba to firm that up.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
NEW
Wiggins
JBG
NEW
Cousins
NEW
Mak
Watt
Subs:
Pope
NEW CB
Fox
Diarra
Jacko
Ba
Igor (give his Achilles chance to properly recover).
Squad - new utility player, Harriott, Ahearne Grant, Moussa, Dmitrovic, Regan Cook, Obileye
1.Hendo
2.Solly
3.Fox
5..NEW from Maderia (or any other obscure small island with no football tradition to speak of)
6.NEW from Ascension Island or Diego Garcia (as above)
4.NEW but with a weird name and from Belgium please (and with a nice YouTube profile and a fit wife)
7.NEW from Isle of Man or Malta or Treasure Island or Jacko in a Disability Scooter
8.Cousins
11.NEW someone from the Galapagos Islands with a parent popular on social media or fat Len from the burger van (if fit) or JBG if still here (which he wont be of course).
10.Watt or Igor (depending in which one is fit an which one goes to Evening Standard)
9. NEW goalkeeping coach with an eye for goal from the Isle of Dogs or Isle of Sheppey if absolutely necessary.
Subs.
Someone very young from the academy.
someone even younger
someone not yet born but with very athletic parents from Belgium.
Bikey handcuffed and tied to a chair by Luzon
The old bloke who sells programmes outside the club superstore or his Mrs (if fit).
Anyone's fit wife.
Anyone fit
Anyone.6 -
That is definitely a normal response to somebody saying where he thinks we need new players.grumpyaddick said:
Can we all play this game..?DamoNorthStand said:
I think I would swap Mak for maybe Igor if he does the expected job of physicality and threat in the air. Think Mak / Watt or Mak / Igor may turn out to be a better pair in reality.bobcafc7 said:Would be my team at the moment and I guess 5-6 signings would be enough.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
*new
Wiggins
JBG
Cousins
Ba
*new
Vetokele
Watt
Subs.
Pope
Fox
Diarra
Jackson
*new cb
Big mak
*new lw/rw
And you still have Harriot, Moussa, Karlan Grant, Dmitrovic and hopefully another 2 signings.
Think we need a real top class CM with Ba acting as back up to Cousins but need to see more of Ba to firm that up.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
NEW
Wiggins
JBG
NEW
Cousins
NEW
Mak
Watt
Subs:
Pope
NEW CB
Fox
Diarra
Jacko
Ba
Igor (give his Achilles chance to properly recover).
Squad - new utility player, Harriott, Ahearne Grant, Moussa, Dmitrovic, Regan Cook, Obileye
1.Hendo
2.Solly
3.Fox
5..NEW from Maderia (or any other obscure small island with no football tradition to speak of)
6.NEW from Ascension Island or Diego Garcia (as above)
4.NEW but with a weird name and from Belgium please (and with a nice YouTube profile and a fit wife)
7.NEW from Isle of Man or Malta or Treasure Island or Jacko in a Disability Scooter
8.Cousins
11.NEW someone from the Galapagos Islands with a parent popular on social media or fat Len from the burger van (if fit) or JBG if still here (which he wont be of course).
10.Watt or Igor (depending in which one is fit an which one goes to Evening Standard)
9. NEW goalkeeping coach with an eye for goal from the Isle of Dogs or Isle of Sheppey if absolutely necessary.
Subs.
Someone very young from the academy.
someone even younger
someone not yet born but with very athletic parents from Belgium.
Bikey handcuffed and tied to a chair by Luzon
The old bloke who sells programmes outside the club superstore or his Mrs (if fit).
Anyone's fit wife.
Anyone fit
Anyone.
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*You're ;-)bobcafc7 said:
Your a very strange man.grumpyaddick said:
Can we all play this game..?DamoNorthStand said:
I think I would swap Mak for maybe Igor if he does the expected job of physicality and threat in the air. Think Mak / Watt or Mak / Igor may turn out to be a better pair in reality.bobcafc7 said:Would be my team at the moment and I guess 5-6 signings would be enough.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
*new
Wiggins
JBG
Cousins
Ba
*new
Vetokele
Watt
Subs.
Pope
Fox
Diarra
Jackson
*new cb
Big mak
*new lw/rw
And you still have Harriot, Moussa, Karlan Grant, Dmitrovic and hopefully another 2 signings.
Think we need a real top class CM with Ba acting as back up to Cousins but need to see more of Ba to firm that up.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
NEW
Wiggins
JBG
NEW
Cousins
NEW
Mak
Watt
Subs:
Pope
NEW CB
Fox
Diarra
Jacko
Ba
Igor (give his Achilles chance to properly recover).
Squad - new utility player, Harriott, Ahearne Grant, Moussa, Dmitrovic, Regan Cook, Obileye
1.Hendo
2.Solly
3.Fox
5..NEW from Maderia (or any other obscure small island with no football tradition to speak of)
6.NEW from Ascension Island or Diego Garcia (as above)
4.NEW but with a weird name and from Belgium please (and with a nice YouTube profile and a fit wife)
7.NEW from Isle of Man or Malta or Treasure Island or Jacko in a Disability Scooter
8.Cousins
11.NEW someone from the Galapagos Islands with a parent popular on social media or fat Len from the burger van (if fit) or JBG if still here (which he wont be of course).
10.Watt or Igor (depending in which one is fit an which one goes to Evening Standard)
9. NEW goalkeeping coach with an eye for goal from the Isle of Dogs or Isle of Sheppey if absolutely necessary.
Subs.
Someone very young from the academy.
someone even younger
someone not yet born but with very athletic parents from Belgium.
Bikey handcuffed and tied to a chair by Luzon
The old bloke who sells programmes outside the club superstore or his Mrs (if fit).
Anyone's fit wife.
Anyone fit
Anyone.3 -
Are you on the Scrumpy, Grumpy ?2
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Just so much crap on a thread supposedly for "rumours"....4
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Done it just before your comment to be fair lol.The Red Robin said:
*You're ;-)bobcafc7 said:
Your a very strange man.grumpyaddick said:
Can we all play this game..?DamoNorthStand said:
I think I would swap Mak for maybe Igor if he does the expected job of physicality and threat in the air. Think Mak / Watt or Mak / Igor may turn out to be a better pair in reality.bobcafc7 said:Would be my team at the moment and I guess 5-6 signings would be enough.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
*new
Wiggins
JBG
Cousins
Ba
*new
Vetokele
Watt
Subs.
Pope
Fox
Diarra
Jackson
*new cb
Big mak
*new lw/rw
And you still have Harriot, Moussa, Karlan Grant, Dmitrovic and hopefully another 2 signings.
Think we need a real top class CM with Ba acting as back up to Cousins but need to see more of Ba to firm that up.
Hendo
Solly
Bauer
NEW
Wiggins
JBG
NEW
Cousins
NEW
Mak
Watt
Subs:
Pope
NEW CB
Fox
Diarra
Jacko
Ba
Igor (give his Achilles chance to properly recover).
Squad - new utility player, Harriott, Ahearne Grant, Moussa, Dmitrovic, Regan Cook, Obileye
1.Hendo
2.Solly
3.Fox
5..NEW from Maderia (or any other obscure small island with no football tradition to speak of)
6.NEW from Ascension Island or Diego Garcia (as above)
4.NEW but with a weird name and from Belgium please (and with a nice YouTube profile and a fit wife)
7.NEW from Isle of Man or Malta or Treasure Island or Jacko in a Disability Scooter
8.Cousins
11.NEW someone from the Galapagos Islands with a parent popular on social media or fat Len from the burger van (if fit) or JBG if still here (which he wont be of course).
10.Watt or Igor (depending in which one is fit an which one goes to Evening Standard)
9. NEW goalkeeping coach with an eye for goal from the Isle of Dogs or Isle of Sheppey if absolutely necessary.
Subs.
Someone very young from the academy.
someone even younger
someone not yet born but with very athletic parents from Belgium.
Bikey handcuffed and tied to a chair by Luzon
The old bloke who sells programmes outside the club superstore or his Mrs (if fit).
Anyone's fit wife.
Anyone fit
Anyone.1 -
perhaps we should look at that Church bloke who scored for MKD last night2
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Against Irish side... Cabinteely?LargeAddick said:perhaps we should look at that Church bloke who scored for MKD last night
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Luzon is going in at the bare minimum of 4 & 5. As said before you're a mad man if you think Solly, Jackson, Moussa, Igor, Watt (with the way he plays and current fitness), Hendo, Wiggins just to name a few are going to last the season. Especially during the mad winter period with Sat-Tues being a regular occurance. I think if you aren't pro-active in the pre-season, if luck's against you then you will hit some bumps that may cause damage.
Let's see who the 4 or 5 are.. our midfield needs a lot of work.4 -
Is Luzon saying we are going to get 4 or 5 more players or is he saying to Roland that we need 4 or 5 more players?0 -
As I understand it Luzon is only allowed to say the type of player he wants, not any actual individual. Then the researchers get onto the internet and find them, or they open the door to agents to press a player on them.0
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“I hope first that we will have a full squad in time for the QPR game,” said the Israeli boss.
“We need a minimum of four or five players.
“And when they arrive we will know exactly how we are going to play and how we are going to look.
Bearing in mind that he has specifically stated it, and the OS has published it, I would hope that they think they have a realistic chance of getting 4 or 5 bodies in by 8th August.
Well they will look seriously stupid if they haven't.1 -
Coquelin had no Championship experience but was a seriously effective performer in that league from the first minute of his first game. Quality is what counts in the end. We can't buy that quality but I sense that Premiership clubs are much more inclined to lend young players on the fringe of their first teams to Championship clubs. I think it would benefit Charlton greatly if they could tap into that trend and build a relationship with their Premiership neighbours, Arsenal and Chelsea in particular as they seem to have the biggest stockpile of young talent that need to be loaned out every season in order to get match experience.6
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But Coquelin had played in England, for Arsenal before he joined us. Over 20 games in fact.Red_in_SE8 said:Coquelin had no Championship experience but was a seriously effective performer in that league from the first minute of his first game. Quality is what counts in the end. We can't buy that quality but I sense that Premiership clubs are much more inclined to lend young players on the fringe of their first teams to Championship clubs. I think it would benefit Charlton greatly if they could tap into that trend and build a relationship with their Premiership neighbours, Arsenal and Chelsea in particular as they seem to have the biggest stockpile of young talent that need to be loaned out every season in order to get match experience.
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Could be down to confidence, arrogance or incompetence but I don't think that RD gives a monkeys about how things look. I suspect that last year's approach will be repeated and we'll be short of a few players at the start. The youth and fringe players will be tried and reinforcements will follow in January if we're in trouble.DamoNorthStand said:“I hope first that we will have a full squad in time for the QPR game,” said the Israeli boss.
"Bearing in mind that he has specifically stated it, and the OS has published it, I would hope that they think they have a realistic chance of getting 4 or 5 bodies in by 8th August.
Well they will look seriously stupid if they haven't."
From a commercial point of view this is a reasonable if somewhat risky approach. Doesn't excite me as a fan but I know that I'm not that important in RD's eyes.5 -
I do believe once we have the new academy building not only will we attract the best talent but also we can then start to be attractive to Arsenal & Chelsea. Hopefully we will have one of the best structures around the Championship, if not the best in South0
