Derby v Charlton - Post Match Thread

PragueAddick said:

Expected 5 points from the first five games. Some really great work going on. Not sure we have the squad for a serious push (who comes in if Bauer or Diarra get crocked?) but pretty sure its going to be better, and a lot more fun, than last season.

Sarr and Lennon

Take the point we didn't play well today rode our luck at times, didn't keep the ball to well in first half , kept giving it away cheaply , better 2nd half could av got a couple of goals on the break JBG should av hit one that fell on his right foot and Mak hit one straight at the keeper, good point well done lads.

seth plum said:

Wasn't there, but would like to know about the kind of impact Mackienok had on the game. I would guess that away at Derby is a tough ask in this league, and we were far from mashed and beaten up, we had previously lost 8 and drawn 3 away in the league at Derby since a 2-0 win in the Premier League days. Lost the previous four or five in a row up there. has to be a very good result whichever way it is sliced.
Their guys said we were dead on our feet near the end which might be a worry, perhaps as a team we lack fitness? I don't know.
Pretty content and satisfied tonight. Well done to Guy Luzon, all the players, and the travelling support, who could be heard quite a lot.

No PWR?

AFKABartram said:

I got the impression George Thorne ran the game a bit. Think he could be a good player this lad if he can now stay serious injury free

Wasn't he unable to break through at West Brom and let go? I keep hearing big things about him and it makes you wonder why a team at the lower end of the prem couldn't find a place for him.

My question is who is going to score outside of Watt or JBG If we have playoff ambitions, we desperately need either Mak or Igor to become a solid secondary scorer and others like cousins/ba to pitch in. I am still not completely convinced this is going to happen

shirty5 said:

colin1961 said:

golfaddick said:

according to their manager we weren't going to score for a month of sundays until a wild shot from Watt toot a wicked deflection and went it. We also wasted time at every opportunity over throw-ins and goal kicks.

is this true - can somebody who was there throw some light on this......

Who gives a toss did he mention about Ince diving every chance he got one which led to the free kick for their goal

Bet not !

Considering he never dived and Bergdich knocked him over your comment is irrelevant

My mum wouldn't have fallen over with the contact being made on Ince, but we can only say as we see. Watt gets much less protection from refs just because he's not a powder puff and much rougher contact on him went unpunished just because it's mostly around the penalty area. No consistency.

bazjonster said:

seth plum said:

Wasn't there, but would like to know about the kind of impact Mackienok had on the game. I would guess that away at Derby is a tough ask in this league, and we were far from mashed and beaten up, we had previously lost 8 and drawn 3 away in the league at Derby since a 2-0 win in the Premier League days. Lost the previous four or five in a row up there. has to be a very good result whichever way it is sliced.
Their guys said we were dead on our feet near the end which might be a worry, perhaps as a team we lack fitness? I don't know.
Pretty content and satisfied tonight. Well done to Guy Luzon, all the players, and the travelling support, who could be heard quite a lot.

No PWR?

Mackienok as a forward was for me poor , defensively did ok .

Did u go j

A very good point against a side that looks a contender for automatic promotion.

A mixture of extremely good defending and a small amount of luck achieved this result. The whole team was very disciplined in it's job and Luzon should take a lot of credit for that.

Yes, Derby had a lot of possession and shots but they were restricted to only a few genuine chances. Indeed we wasted a few chances of our own particularly when we had break always in the second half.

We were chasing the ball for long periods so I hope the boys can recover sufficiently for Tuesday.

From the commentary, sounded like the pressure on us was almost relentless? What were the possession percentages anyone?

https://ramspaceuk.wordpress.com/2015/08/16/what-went-down-charlton/

oohaahmortimer said:

ilovelucy said:

From the commentary, sounded like the pressure on us was almost relentless? What were the possession percentages anyone?

Derby 68% Charlton 32%

Oh dear! On another day that could have been 0-3 then?

theeenorth said:

https://ramspaceuk.wordpress.com/2015/08/16/what-went-down-charlton/

That was interesting.

I realły hope CC can get that out of his system quickly, with a peach at Forest, I hear they do wonders with the digestive system.

Excellent summaries above, particularly from Blucher & Tutt Tutt.

I love going to Derby, such a nice town, with very friendly locals. So many decent boozers, you are more than spoilt for choice.

Derby is a bit of a throw back to what England was like 30/40 years ago.

As far as the game goes, it reminded me somewhat, of our away days in The Prem.
You knew the opposition had a bigger, better, far more expensive squad, but you also knew, that you had a decent team yourself, that were all good, organised and committed and were more than capable of pulling off a result.

I thought Pope did well enough, apart from a couple of awful kicks into touch, but we all know Kiely did this, so it's not that important. I thought he stood up well to Chris Martin's constant intimidation, where he stood close by, to put off Pope's kicking.

Solly & Fox did well enough, against possibly the strongest opposition, they will face this season.
Although, I think they have both played better and Solly, uncharacteristically, gave the ball away a fair few times.

Bauer and Diarra were immense. They stopped everything bar the goal. Bauer cleared one off the line & Diarra flung himself in to block a certain goal. They were both superb.

Ceballos had another quiet game & like others, I was surprise he started a game, where I thought we needed solidity & gritt. He definitely took the worst Charlton corner, in my memory, side footing the ball straight off, when attempting a long "short corner". But hey, that's just a funny one off (hopefully).

Cousins was Cousins chasing everything & did well.

Kashi chased even more & was instrumental in being the first line of defence. Excellent game.

Bergdytch, who came on for Ceballos, gave away too may fouls and misplaced passes. But the effort was there.

Gudmundsson had a quietish game, but him & Watt looked so dangerous on the break.
They both looked Prem quality & Gudmundsson could have scored twice, when he & Watt broke on them.
He hit both efforts high & wide, but on another day, at least one may have flown in.
They really kept Derby on their toes & it made such a difference, knowing we always had a threat.

Makienok, is without doubt, a Leaburn type player. He is always going to divide opinion.
His defending at corners is superb and he seems to head away everything. A vital addition.
Up front, he will always cause the oppo problems and is a nice to have.
He has a decent touch, for such a big bloke.
However, he really needs to start jumping to head the ball.
He loses far too many headers, to defenders 5/6 inches smaller than himself, because he just doesn't jump.
He really should be winning nearly everything. It is possibly, that defending corners, he can have a running leap, as opposed to a standing one.

Watt was immense again, an absloute Charlton legend in the making, if he can continue, in the same vein.

We gave away the ball too much, which kept the pressure on. But what an organised, gutsy, performance and we deserved a point, against a team that should be promoted. I should imagine, Derby's salaries, are immense compared to ours. I mean, they can afford to leave Darren Bent & Weinman on the bench. We could only dream of that.