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Charlton v. Brentford post match views 2015/16

LoOkOuT
LoOkOuT Posts: 10,856
edited October 2015 in General Charlton
Though we started optimistically, Brentford's two Alans—"Oxo Tower" McCormack and "Judge, Jury and Executioner"—ran the show for most of the 90 minutes.

We're a rudderless ship. The ever-deft Ms. Miere has painted herself into a corner once again. Will she ever learn? It was spelled out in black and white right in front of us this afternoon. What is she to do with Guy now?

What's that... oh, you're right. Silly me... over to you Roland!

(PS Do your selves a favour and go outside and spend some quality time in the fresh air!)
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  • creepyaddick
    creepyaddick Posts: 6,152
    Total Richard
  • Smithy
    Smithy Posts: 1,022
    #BlamePope
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,352
    SHIT
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Rubbish, confidence not idea.

    It was clear to see we was outnumbered in midfield but Luzon refused to budge from 442 and did nothing to change the game.

    Luzon out
  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    Grim
  • Atletico Addick
    Atletico Addick Posts: 5,843
    Redmidland said:

    RD your time has come, please please please sell up and fuck off, you are destroying this club by your stupid experiment, we are a proud club why would you do this, please go, please.

    Redmidland said:

    RD your time has come, please please please sell up and fuck off, you are destroying this club by your stupid experiment, we are a proud club why would you do this, please go, please.

    Redmidland said:

    RD your time has come, please please please sell up and fuck off, you are destroying this club by your stupid experiment, we are a proud club why would you do this, please go, please.

    This this ... and this
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    Spent the afternoon doing pumpkins with my daughters. This is a waste of time. RD seems content to prove season after season that he's a clueless git in football. Wonder why he ploughs on with it!
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    Matty Holmes and Gary Poole both back from their injuries next week - it will be better next week I honestly promise....
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Redmidland said:

    RD your time has come, please please please sell up and fuck off, you are destroying this club by your stupid experiment, we are a proud club why would you do this, please go, please.

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  • TonyRidley
    TonyRidley Posts: 17
    edited October 2015
    ROLAND OUT ROLAND OUT and take the cluless with you. PLEASE SELL THE CLUB TO SOMEONE WHO KNOWS HOW TO RUN IT PROPERLY. If I had as much money as Roland Charlton would now be in the Premier League - THAT IS FOR SURE.
  • DONVANVLIET
    DONVANVLIET Posts: 235
    For Christ's sake get Curbishley back. You can guarantee a return to the Premiership within 3 years if you do.
  • sirjohnhumphrey
    sirjohnhumphrey Posts: 1,859
    First fifteen we needed to take at least one of the three clear chances we had.

    Midfield central two up against three and they played around us. We are so easy to play against.

    I feel more frustrated than I did on Tuesday as this is pretty much our first 11.

    Let's accept we are deeply in trouble. Minds and bodies are shot already.

    Is pointless blaming the players as I believe they give their all.

    But. Morgan Fox is an absolute excuse of a footballer.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited October 2015
    Guy will go of that I'm sure, if he doesn't then RD/KM really do have it in for us! I can see it now in a few years, RD sells off the Valley after we have fallen to the Conference or whatever its called, social housing where the proud ground once stood, well he did say he wants to do something good didn't he!!! I fear for us and our future with him in charge.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    No plan B, rigid slow 4-4-2. It was the same under Powell, Petiers, and now Luzon.

    Teams know how to play against us, we made Brentford look like Bacelona for a lot of that game.
  • queensland_addick
    queensland_addick Posts: 7,547
    Watched the stream, wish I hadn't. No passion, no desire, no fight, no character. Over run by McOxo and Judge. What hope is there when players give so little for their manager and fans as soon as they lose a few games? How about fighting to turn it around, rather than doing all they can to get the manager sacked. We'll be changing manager every six months at this rate. Anyway bring back Riga or Curbs, we are now in yet another relegation battle.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited October 2015
    No need for personal insults at KM we know she's in RD's pocket.

    I'm not sure what we were playing for today.

    Sarr and Bauer strangely were our best players yet we lost 3-0.

    I thought we looked OK until the goal and then positioning went out the window.

    Jackson tried to be everywhere which left gaps.

    Makienok's not fit enough to do the chasing down that maybe KAG would have done well at.

    The only good thing that can be said is the first two were great finishes and the last a lucky deflection I think?

    One thing that was obvious Luzon can't lift the team and no matter who we replace him with they'll have the same issue.

    Also why was SM booed off? That was pathetic.
  • Addictforlife
    Addictforlife Posts: 93
    edited October 2015
    Total joke of a club. No pace at all in the team. Wish Luzon would try different formations rather than 4-4-2 all the time.
    JBG looks so uninterested at the moment and we have no creativey in minefield.
    Once we go behind we lose all confidence. Should have scored in first 10 minutes when had 3 chances.
    Just hope RD has learnt his lesson and gets an English nanager who knows the championship but doing he will. Can but hope!!!!
    Worrying times
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,333
    Something needs to change - and quickly. Whether you blame the owners, the manager (or head coach or whatever he is called) or the playing staff is up for discussion.

    The first thing to cure is the lack of harmony which seems to rife amongst players, supporters and other staff. I posted about a year ago that the departure of Morrison and Kermorgant symbolised more than the departure of two decent Championship players. It symbolised to me the exit of players who were prepared to fight for the club.

    I suspect there are troublemakers in this current squad - I may be wrong - but they need to go now if I am right. With a thin squad, that is difficult and whilst I am not in the 'spend spend spend, Roland' camp, it is ultimately his bad investments that need ejecting and replacing with those who can perform at this level most games even when things aren't going well.

    I feel as angry as I have ever felt about the club I have supported for over 50 years. RD got shot of players who gave their best and has replaced with fly by nights in the main. Will he sort it out or will the laudable Black and White succeed? I don't know, but effingwell hope so.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    edited October 2015
    Full backs were awful. Good old days Solly and Wiggins never let a cross over. They were raining in today. Lucky Bees forwards were midgets. Solly not only his knees are gone but his head. Must realise this is as good as it gets for him after early promise and England interest. Lazy punts up the line. Should have been him defending 2nd & 3rd goals not Cousins and Bauer. JJ did nothing all game. Too puffed to cajole more effort. McAleny - why is he here and playing in front of our kids? No touch. Useless.
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Dazzler21 said:

    No need for personal insults at KM we know she's in RD's pocket.

    I'm not sure what we were playing for today.

    Sarr and Bauer strangely were our best players yet we lost 3-0.

    I thought we looked OK until the goal and then positioning went out the window.

    Jackson tried to be everywhere which left gaps.

    Makienok's not fit enough to do the chasing down that maybe KAG would have done well at.

    The only good thing that can be said is the first two were great finishes and the last a lucky deflection I think?

    One thing that was obvious Luzon can't lift the team and no matter who we replace him with they'll have the same issue.

    Also why was SM booed off? That was pathetic.

    Can't see who lolled this. Can only assume it's a twit.
  • TonyRidley
    TonyRidley Posts: 17
    It doesnt matter what Manager comes in because the club is rotten at the top. No Manager could be successful if the Owner and Chief Exec are clueless about football. To me there is no point sacking Luzon. It is the Owner who should admit his way of doing things at Charlton clearly does not work and SELL us to someone who knows Charltons potential as soon as possible.
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,735
    Dazzler21 said:


    Also why was SM booed off? That was pathetic.

    Pretty sure it was the decision to bring him off that was booed.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    Dazzler21 said:

    No need for personal insults at KM we know she's in RD's pocket.

    I'm not sure what we were playing for today.

    Sarr and Bauer strangely were our best players yet we lost 3-0.

    I thought we looked OK until the goal and then positioning went out the window.

    Jackson tried to be everywhere which left gaps.

    Makienok's not fit enough to do the chasing down that maybe KAG would have done well at.

    The only good thing that can be said is the first two were great finishes and the last a lucky deflection I think?

    One thing that was obvious Luzon can't lift the team and no matter who we replace him with they'll have the same issue.

    Also why was SM booed off? That was pathetic.

    Was it the sub choice that the fans was booing rather than SM?
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,433
    Moderately less awful performance but with a better team, which is actually more worrying. Luzon needs to go.
  • northstandsteve
    northstandsteve Posts: 14,328
    He was injured.
  • DPFC
    DPFC Posts: 320
    We were completly outnumbered in the middle. No brentford players were marked. No one closed anyone down
    Any team can see if they play between our 2 rigid lines of 4 they have alk the time in world to play round us
  • floydroadfaithfull
    floydroadfaithfull Posts: 4,778
    Was It a packed valley
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    I've said it once, I'll say it again - please stop banging on about players and 'passion'. What the fuck does that even mean anyway?

    If you mean running around and putting challenges in, then unfortunately there are instructed to play in a ridged 4-4-2 where we remain narrow and try and get two banks of four behind the ball. We play with no fluidity, it's embarrassing football from a year gone bye. Even Hodgson chucked this style of football.
  • OsamaBenHamer
    OsamaBenHamer Posts: 647
    Pathetic trying to please us by revealing the finances which we're supposed to be happy about at this time. Fed up of the gimmicks. Fed up of the football.

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