Plans to turn the Club shop into flats?
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Yes!Swisdom said:Don't bite my head of everyone - I love the Valley. I know it's our home and everything......
But is moving to a new all seater stadium that might just be slightly easier to get to and from really the end of the world?3 -
great place for a flat, lots of nice views from the windows...let him do it, they won't sell, it'll be another loss for the master of disaster...0
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Makes no sense building flats there would make more sense commercially to build them as an addition to the terraced houses in Valley Gardens
Weird thing tho my btother in law is a tipper driver and on Saturday he was telling me he has been picking up at the training ground. Do I said yes doing a lot of refurb works . However he is sure his firm were told its flats as well ?0 -
Flats just about anywhere in London will sell. Lots of parking, close to train station, Blackheath Borders. £500kFumbluff said:great place for a flat, lots of nice views from the windows...let him do it, they won't sell, it'll be another loss for the master of disaster...
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Sadly, plenty of rubbish at the training ground these days :-/Goonerhater said:Weird thing tho my btother in law is a tipper driver and on Saturday he was telling me he has been picking up at the training ground...
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Doesn't the new facility also include an accommodation block? Chinese whispers and all that!!Goonerhater said:Makes no sense building flats there would make more sense commercially to build them as an addition to the terraced houses in Valley Gardens
Weird thing tho my btother in law is a tipper driver and on Saturday he was telling me he has been picking up at the training ground. Do I said yes doing a lot of refurb works . However he is sure his firm were told its flats as well ?0 -
Does this explain why we've happily allowed other teams to throw the kitchen sink at us?6
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Maybe, just maybe he will not sell the flats but use them store head coaches? one for the outgoing coach, one for current coach, one for the incoming coach and obviously one for Roland himself for when we play at home.Henry Irving said:
Flats just about anywhere in London will sell. Lots of parking, close to train station, Blackheath Borders. £500kFumbluff said:great place for a flat, lots of nice views from the windows...let him do it, they won't sell, it'll be another loss for the master of disaster...
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good man. Do it on WhatDoTheyKnow, so we can all follow their responseInspectorSands said:I live in Charlton ward, and have just dropped one of the ward councillors a line to see what he knows.
Greenwich Council is as dysfunctional as CAFC and ward councillors - even cabinet members - are often the last to know about major plans, so I'm not expecting much. I'll slap in an FOI request, which should at least confirm or deny the existence of any application.
and @ken from bexley they must reply within 20 working days. That's why it is better to use WDTK. If they are late, the whole world can see it. And you have the evidence at hand if you need an internal review, or, heaven forbid, to take it to the ICO.
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One of the real downsides of poor communication and public relations from a business, is that people very quickly become suspicious and mistrustful of everything they do (or plan to do. Or don't plan to do).
Rightly or wrongly.
It makes little sense to build flats on that location I would have thought. But then it makes little sense to employ a Head Coach from the Belgian 3rd division. There must be some business acumen going on somewhere within the football club and it should come as no surprise that people are looking at every activity of this regime with scepticism; and then wondering if this or that is the REAL motive and plan behind all the outward appearance of complete mismanagement.12 -
Henry Irving said:
Flats just about anywhere in London will sell. Lots of parking, close to train station, Blackheath Borders. £500kFumbluff said:great place for a flat, lots of nice views from the windows...let him do it, they won't sell, it'll be another loss for the master of disaster...
If you had 500k to spend on a flat, would you really choose to live in Floyd Road?6 -
Allocated, gated, secure (apart from when there's a supporters' riot being organised) parking. In fact, soon they'd be able to sell on as many parking spaces as you like! KM will probably be taking up a new role as concierge?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Henry Irving said:
Flats just about anywhere in London will sell. Lots of parking, close to train station, Blackheath Borders. £500kFumbluff said:great place for a flat, lots of nice views from the windows...let him do it, they won't sell, it'll be another loss for the master of disaster...
If you had 500k to spend on a flat, would you really choose to live in Floyd Road?2 -
Make no mistake. The Morden Wharf site is one of the best locations on the Greenwich Penisula. It fronts the river and is bang in the heart of London.
Can anyone explain to me why this plum site has not already been bought up. High rise is no problem in that location and the flats would be worth a fortune and you could build a lot of them.
This has troubled me for a while. RD is not a football man. He hasn't shown any signs of becoming one or want Charlton to be a Presteige investment. It's seems like he is doing the bare minimum in keeping us ticking over. Biding his time but ensuring the training ground is fit to have as a base if the stadium is only for match days.
Until the possibility of a move to the peninsula is ruled out because the land is gone I think it's an investment possibility.
Odd that KM has chosen this moment to engage with fan groups ?
Until I hear that it won't happen I will continue to think it's a real possibility.1 -
This is what I was thinking. Years ago didn't the club own two houses just up the road from where the club shop is currently located? Having club accommodation on site could save fortune on hotel bills in the long run.Justin20474 said:
Maybe, just maybe he will not sell the flats but use them store head coaches? one for the outgoing coach, one for current coach, one for the incoming coach and obviously one for Roland himself for when we play at home.Henry Irving said:
Flats just about anywhere in London will sell. Lots of parking, close to train station, Blackheath Borders. £500kFumbluff said:great place for a flat, lots of nice views from the windows...let him do it, they won't sell, it'll be another loss for the master of disaster...
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Plans are afoot. Google Cathedral group.ShootersHillGuru said:Tell me why this site is still un developed.
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Because of kids hanging around on the corner?ShootersHillGuru said:Tell me why this site is still un developed.
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It's been bought up for development for a few years now.
http://www.cathedralgroup.com/current-projects/morden-wharf/
"The Peninsula West Masterplan outlines the Council’s intention to transform the Peninsula into London’s premier entertainment zone by focusing development and regeneration around multi-purpose sports, entertainment and educational facilities that enhance with the offer at the O2 Arena and seamlessly and sustainably link historic Greenwich with the masterplanned zone. Morden Wharf is a world-class site and one of the very few significant London river fronts left for major regeneration."
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That quote affords me no comfortInspectorSands said:It's been bought up for development for a few years now.
http://www.cathedralgroup.com/current-projects/morden-wharf/
"The Peninsula West Masterplan outlines the Council’s intention to transform the Peninsula into London’s premier entertainment zone by focusing development and regeneration around multi-purpose sports, entertainment and educational facilities that enhance with the offer at the O2 Arena and seamlessly and sustainably link historic Greenwich with the masterplanned zone. Morden Wharf is a world-class site and one of the very few significant London river fronts left for major regeneration."
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The morden wharf site was acquired by local develop Cathedral Group back in 2012. They employed a big architect in 2013 to make plans, though it has surprisingly gone quiet on that. It was flagg at the time as being a mixed use site. 'The Peninsula West Masterplan outlines the Council’s intention to transform the Peninsula into London’s premier entertainment zone by focusing development and regeneration around multi-purpose sports, entertainment and educational facilities that enhance with the offer at the O2 Arena and seamlessly and sustainably link historic Greenwich with the masterplanned zone. Morden Wharf is a world-class site and one of the very few significant London river fronts left for major regeneration' is on their website.
|Cathedral were acquired last year by Development Securities, and are soon to launch a new name U+I Group0 -
I like you ShootersHill have thought that redevelopment is high on RD's agenda for a while with no way of substantiating that feeling. Of course it has been said that conspiracy theories are a way for stupid people to sound clever (not my quote) but developments with the playing and coaching staff would indicate that the attention and focus isn't on results on the pitch and that is borne out by what is going on at the other network clubs.
whilst turning the area occupied by the club shop into flats actually makes no sense to me who the hell would buy them? unless? it is something like a housing association, developing the whole site would, with a mix of low cost, high end properties.
who knows but there is something very smelly going on1 -
This sounds like the club trying to distract the supporters from the real issues. No doubt after Katrien meets the supporters in that meeting she will announce that due to supporters concerns the shop will be kept open, with all the fanfare of listening to supporters.1
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am I the only one that can see it.InspectorSands said:It's been bought up for development for a few years now.
http://www.cathedralgroup.com/current-projects/morden-wharf/
"The Peninsula West Masterplan outlines the Council’s intention to transform the Peninsula into London’s premier entertainment zone by focusing development and regeneration around multi-purpose sports, entertainment and educational facilities that enhance with the offer at the O2 Arena and seamlessly and sustainably link historic Greenwich with the masterplanned zone. Morden Wharf is a world-class site and one of the very few significant London river fronts left for major regeneration."27 -
So the last thing you'd want to do is stick a football club in the area. I'm sure the flat owners would be most impressed when we play Millwall, and half the streets are shut off by the PoliceShootersHillGuru said:Make no mistake. The Morden Wharf site is one of the best locations on the Greenwich Penisula. It fronts the river and is bang in the heart of London.
Can anyone explain to me why this plum site has not already been bought up. High rise is no problem in that location and the flats would be worth a fortune and you could build a lot of them.
This has troubled me for a while. RD is not a football man. He hasn't shown any signs of becoming one or want Charlton to be a Presteige investment. It's seems like he is doing the bare minimum in keeping us ticking over. Biding his time but ensuring the training ground is fit to have as a base if the stadium is only for match days.
Until the possibility of a move to the peninsula is ruled out because the land is gone I think it's an investment possibility.
Odd that KM has chosen this moment to engage with fan groups ?
Until I hear that it won't happen I will continue to think it's a real possibility.0 -
With access via a revolving door......Justin20474 said:
Maybe, just maybe he will not sell the flats but use them store head coaches? one for the outgoing coach, one for current coach, one for the incoming coach and obviously one for Roland himself for when we play at home.Henry Irving said:
Flats just about anywhere in London will sell. Lots of parking, close to train station, Blackheath Borders. £500kFumbluff said:great place for a flat, lots of nice views from the windows...let him do it, they won't sell, it'll be another loss for the master of disaster...
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That is not the point of the upset.Elthamaddick said:the shop as it stands is too small and a very poor design, as long as we are retaining a shop at the ground a bigger one would be much better
What else are the Belgians looking to do?0 -
Where the actual building for the club shop is, is actually a little awkward, particularly since the north stand and the quads were built. Every team bus struggles to maneurver ina tight space. So if the club shop building comes down you don't want to build a new building and have the same problem for coaches. I think you need reconfigure that area. For examle I heard the dressing room sizes are no long Premier League standard. Not that we may need the Premier League very soon. But if we then reconfigured non baring walls inside the building of the West Stand and then looked at maybe extending the building of the North West Stand out to where maybe it comes out to a quarter of the exiting shop building is now leaving a much bigger space for coaches to move. We may even be able to incorperate a shop there. But I am not an architect. I am just letting my imagination run riot.
Probably would need to draw out a non architect's diagram.1 -
Never a dull moment down in SE7 these days.0
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Once you get permission for a few flats then the floodgates open.
Roland dipping his toe in.4
