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Co-Ordination of Proposed Fan Action
castrust
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The Supporters' Trust is introducing a dedicated resource centre on our website to help co-ordinate effective but appropriate responses to supporters' concerns. This will be launched on our homepage from tomorrow morning (Thursday 31st December) and we invite organisers to submit details of their upcoming planned actions, their goals and their contact details for inclusion. Please email these details to secretary@castrust.org.
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Is this being done so the trust can report back to the club?10
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Seems like it.Brendan_O_Connell said:Is this being done so the trust can report back to the club?
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Great idea, there are numerous protest ideas (see the number of different threads for evidence of that) but if the Trust can play a role in co-ordinating that energy then the impact could be maximised.castrust said:The Supporters' Trust is introducing a dedicated resource centre on our website to help co-ordinate effective but appropriate responses to supporters' concerns. This will be launched on our homepage from tomorrow morning (Thursday 31st December) and we invite organisers to submit details of their upcoming planned actions, their goals and their contact details for inclusion. Please email these details to secretary@castrust.org.
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Agree with this and it also demonstrates that the Trust is doing something!se9addick said:
Great idea, there are numerous protest ideas (see the number of different threads for evidence of that) but if the Trust can play a role in co-ordinating that energy then the impact could be maximised.castrust said:The Supporters' Trust is introducing a dedicated resource centre on our website to help co-ordinate effective but appropriate responses to supporters' concerns. This will be launched on our homepage from tomorrow morning (Thursday 31st December) and we invite organisers to submit details of their upcoming planned actions, their goals and their contact details for inclusion. Please email these details to secretary@castrust.org.
Read more here.
However, and I don't want this to sound negative, I'm uneasy with the words used in the OP - 'effective' and perhaps more importantly 'appropriate'. Does the Trust determine what is effective and/or appropriate and therefore only offer to coordinate those actions?
Would for example the Trust be prepared to consider coordinating the protest being planned for Saturday, instigated by Rick? The 'Spell it Out' campaign now switching to let's spell it out for you as in 'go now'? The call to support any possible takeover (if that's what it was) orchestrated by Reg? Removal of data from CAFC databases? Trying to understand what RM's position is on the debacle now unfolding at the Club? Season Ticket boycotts?
Would the Trust consider any/all of the above effective and appropriate?0 -
lol lol lol
Cake and eat it?
But maybe a good first step
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Are they here to help or are they just here to snitch0
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Hold up. If you criticise the trust for not doing anything, don't then criticise them when they see the light and want to get involved.11
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Let's give them(CAST) the benefit of the doubt for now surely. It's not exactly a secret society this website so the club will be well aware of what's planned for Saturday without the need for anyone to go all Bertie Smalls.
From reading here the past few days and going on the reports of the reaction v Wolves it appears that the fan base is pretty unified against these muppets and surely the Trust have realised that.
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As a Trust member I would like to congratulate the Trust Board on their effort to coordinate the various ideas for protest against the Belgians.
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Well done and thanks to CAST for stepping up with a much-needed and measured response to the on-going situation.
This is a really good idea.3 -
secretary@castrust.org not working from U.S.1
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This reads like scratching an itch with gloves on.
You've reached the itch but you're nowhere near the start of solving the problem.1 -
If a co-ordination page is there to simply list stuff it is good.
It could have links to various articles
It could have links to fund raising efforts either the scarf one or the Davo?Curb-it one
It could list actions proposed (like for Saturday, is it in the ground or outside, is it both, what are the strongest suggestions for any walk out)
It could (yeah nanny state) suggest that chants are not gratuitously offensive or profane, but aimed to reveal our feelings, and express our wants.
...and more.
There are a lot of good reasons why a degree of co-ordination should be initiated, if only as an exchange of information.
Well done the Trust board, if anybody is worried they are a fifth column for the club then they are in a minority.
If the club wanted to know what's what, and who's who, they could easily do that with an hours effort.2 -
Well done the Trust. Very good move.
I may not always agree with everything they decide to do or not do but they deserve our respect and trust (pardon the pun). They've got mine.3 -
Unless anybody else is having trouble it should not matter where you are. I just tested it and it seems to work ok for me. You can instead mail the sec through here if you like ,he is Pico. Best not me as I'll be off line for much of the next day and a halflimeygent said:secretary@castrust.org not working from U.S.
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This not all of us realised how bad news the current ownership were at first, I know I was spouting defensive rubbish as recently as Peeters being in charge, we have all had our personal change of view, so I welcome the Trust starting to get involved.Uboat said:Hold up. If you criticise the trust for not doing anything, don't then criticise them when they see the light and want to get involved.
Anyone who gets involved in petty point scoring against fellow fans is effectively helping the current ownership, as a divided fan base is easier to control.6 -
This.
Divide and Rule will fail if we unite for a common goal. Management has not helped itself and most Addicks are now seeing it for what it is. The evidence demonstrates that this regime was, and is, bad news. I suggest that we should not become anxious about what comes after Duchatelet. We can't control that. What we can do is put the pressure on and bring about a situation where the owner sees fit to sell.3 -
Sounds like a good move. The thing that's lacking right now is a focal point. If this helps to address that then it must be a positive step.0
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If someone suggests burning down the stands or physical violence, etc. it may not make the list. We do want to encourage the type of creative but effective action for which Charlton fans have long been famous, but we're not going to act as chief censor.bobmunro said:
Agree with this and it also demonstrates that the Trust is doing something!se9addick said:
Great idea, there are numerous protest ideas (see the number of different threads for evidence of that) but if the Trust can play a role in co-ordinating that energy then the impact could be maximised.castrust said:The Supporters' Trust is introducing a dedicated resource centre on our website to help co-ordinate effective but appropriate responses to supporters' concerns. This will be launched on our homepage from tomorrow morning (Thursday 31st December) and we invite organisers to submit details of their upcoming planned actions, their goals and their contact details for inclusion. Please email these details to secretary@castrust.org.
Read more here.
However, and I don't want this to sound negative, I'm uneasy with the words used in the OP - 'effective' and perhaps more importantly 'appropriate'. Does the Trust determine what is effective and/or appropriate and therefore only offer to coordinate those actions?
Would for example the Trust be prepared to consider coordinating the protest being planned for Saturday, instigated by Rick? The 'Spell it Out' campaign now switching to let's spell it out for you as in 'go now'? The call to support any possible takeover (if that's what it was) orchestrated by Reg? Removal of data from CAFC databases? Trying to understand what RM's position is on the debacle now unfolding at the Club? Season Ticket boycotts?
Would the Trust consider any/all of the above effective and appropriate?
The hub is on our site already, and I've taken the liberty of posting the Spell It Out campaign from Henry's first post on the subject just so there's something there. I'll ask Ben/Joe directly to provide an update for that, and Rick to summarise his for the hub. It would make sense to post information regarding the fundraising too.
It may be that some campaigns will be listed a little more cryptically and link to a private area, where sensitive, but we're aiming for a 'single view' of proposed activities, not a 'view only what we want you to see'.
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Tip-toe but a welcome one1
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A very welcome act from the trust.
Hopefully we can see a unity in fans working together.
We certainly need to in this increasingly desperate situation.
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Had to do secretary@www.castrust.orgPragueAddick said:
Unless anybody else is having trouble it should not matter where you are. I just tested it and it seems to work ok for me. You can instead mail the sec through here if you like ,he is Pico. Best not me as I'll be off line for much of the next day and a halflimeygent said:secretary@castrust.org not working from U.S.
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Many a businessman's excuse for being late home for dinner.limeygent said:
Had to do secretary....PragueAddick said:
Unless anybody else is having trouble it should not matter where you are. I just tested it and it seems to work ok for me. You can instead mail the sec through here if you like ,he is Pico. Best not me as I'll be off line for much of the next day and a halflimeygent said:secretary@castrust.org not working from U.S.
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Odd, were u on a corporate network?limeygent said:
Had to do secretary@www.castrust.orgPragueAddick said:
Unless anybody else is having trouble it should not matter where you are. I just tested it and it seems to work ok for me. You can instead mail the sec through here if you like ,he is Pico. Best not me as I'll be off line for much of the next day and a halflimeygent said:secretary@castrust.org not working from U.S.
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Cable provider.razil said:
Odd, were u on a corporate network?limeygent said:
Had to do secretary@www.castrust.orgPragueAddick said:
Unless anybody else is having trouble it should not matter where you are. I just tested it and it seems to work ok for me. You can instead mail the sec through here if you like ,he is Pico. Best not me as I'll be off line for much of the next day and a halflimeygent said:secretary@castrust.org not working from U.S.
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Those were the days......RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
Many a businessman's excuse for being late home for dinner.limeygent said:
Had to do secretary....PragueAddick said:
Unless anybody else is having trouble it should not matter where you are. I just tested it and it seems to work ok for me. You can instead mail the sec through here if you like ,he is Pico. Best not me as I'll be off line for much of the next day and a halflimeygent said:secretary@castrust.org not working from U.S.
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Trust say there's been no progress with communication. I thought the T20k group met before the Wolves game and that the trust were involved in that. Can we assume that meeting was cancelled or am I missing something?0
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T20k has not been set up for the kind of strategic dialogue we seek ( and in the process get the answers we all seek) so the Trust isn't involved. I believe that it did go ahead.jamescafc said:Trust say there's been no progress with communication. I thought the T20k group met before the Wolves game and that the trust were involved in that. Can we assume that meeting was cancelled or am I missing something?
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Boycott!PragueAddick said:
T20k has not been set up for the kind of strategic dialogue we seek ( and in the process get the answers we all seek) so the Trust isn't involved. I believe that it did go ahead.jamescafc said:Trust say there's been no progress with communication. I thought the T20k group met before the Wolves game and that the trust were involved in that. Can we assume that meeting was cancelled or am I missing something?
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