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Are we killing charlton
redmick
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I know RD is making us a laughing stock but from the amount of fans saying they are not going to Charlton till the club is sold are we not killing Charlton ourselves. Its alright saying that they will come back as and when RD sells the club but with west ham offering cheap tickets how many fans will ever return. I'd sooner have a club still playing than no club at all tho I still want RD out
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You're right we're the problem how could we be so blind20
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A club with RD and KM is no longer a club ...there is no alternative to escalating protest and getting them out.17
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If they would rather be at West Ham, they ain't Charlton fans.34
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Real fans will be back when the regime is gone.19
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The Belgians are killing the club, not the fans.
Laughing stock - slightly more than that I'd suggest.11 -
RD's deluded, misplaced vision/experiment is killing the club anyway.
if something is not done now, in two years time when he is still in charge and we are in the lower reaches of L1 or even L2, we can't look back and think "what if?"1 -
For me, We're only Charlton in name at the moment , the club is completely rudderless, severely lacking in direction and vision, and worst of all taking the complete phish with the fans with regards to the lies that have been told.
Any decent well run company would have axed our ceo ages ago, this is the first time i have ever had a complete and utter loathing of the people running our club, Roland is so out of touch with what's going on over here it's frightening, how much longer will this madness go on?16 -
50,000 of us put in £6k each, we'll have the club back.5
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What about a brief case full of IOUs, like in Dumb and Dumberiamdan said:50,000 of us put in £6k each, we'll have the club back.
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Only if Roland wanted to sell.iamdan said:50,000 of us put in £6k each, we'll have the club back.
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You have a point.redmick said:I know RD is making us a laughing stock but from the amount of fans saying they are not going to Charlton till the club is sold are we not killing Charlton ourselves. Its alright saying that they will come back as and when RD sells the club but with west ham offering cheap tickets how many fans will ever return. I'd sooner have a club still playing than no club at all tho I still want RD out
If the valley was packed out every week and the atmosphere was buzzing and intimidating for opposition...then our performances on the pitch may have more conviction etc.
It works both ways though and would be really hard to achieve something like that at present. It has quite frankly simply become boring, repetitive and depressing even for the most passionate fan to hang on to.
I don't even think Portsmouth fans would sing through this (though they would probably be more consistent in general support)....and that sounds like the most ridiculous sentence ever considering what they went through. They still have more pride.
We have a "Different kind of shit" that only Leige fans can borderline relate to. The club is being destroyed from the internal heart and the worst part is, its all self inflicted, completely stupid and completely madly direction-less (if that is a word)
Our only bad luck is the fact that our owner is a careless moron. We could have been so much better if managed from the top with more common sense and thoughtful sensible heads, which would still probably more or less produce roughly the exact same financial losses per year.2 -
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I don't enjoy going to Charlton whilst the club is run like this.
It's my money and I don't want Roland having it. I have better things to do.
Hence I am not going.
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Or we could just take out a loan against the club like the Glazers did? Doesn't sound like you need to have money to run the club anyways, just keep putting it into more and more debt and drive the fans away. Winning formula right thereiamdan said:50,000 of us put in £6k each, we'll have the club back.
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Who supplies the debt?moutuakilla said:
Or we could just take out a loan against the club like the Glazers did? Doesn't sound like you need to have money to run the club anyways, just keep putting it into more and more debt and drive the fans away. Winning formula right thereiamdan said:50,000 of us put in £6k each, we'll have the club back.
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Unbelievable, you fans are all mouth and no trousers. All this big talk of buying the club but no one has the stones to stump up £60 million. Pathetic.10
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The fans killing Charlton?
Good one
That's like getting punched in the face and apologising for your nose getting InThe way of his fist12 -
Not that I'm suggesting it's the right or the wrong thing to do, but writing to sponsors and suggesting they abandon their sponsorship of the club could be construed as an attempt on the life of our club.AFKABartram said:The fans killing Charlton?
Good one
That's like getting punched in the face and apologising for your nose getting InThe way of his fist0 -
No we are not killing the club as "joint enterprise" has now been binned and we haven't got the weapon in our hands. I suppose we could be an accessory after the fact.
But, sometimes you just have to be cruel to be kind. At the moment, if Charlton was a cat, you'd take it down the Vet and have it put out of its misery.1 -
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Mendonca has articulated exactly how I feel - Charlton in name only - the club as we knew it is gone or at least reduced to a footnote. In an earlier post elsewhere I said that the owner had created a year zero at the time he took over and has consigned our history to the dustbin and re-invented the club in his fashion. Katrien Nightmeire said as much in her L'Echo interview in Belgium quote: "I know I shouldn't say this but I don't care about the history of the club". She also doesn't care about the fans and is interested seemingly in promoting only a short-sighted good customer experience on a game-to-game basis and the longer-term grooming of youth players to sell to the Prem. When the despicable duo are gone the club will need to be re-built across the many areas which have been destroyed. The fans, so arrogantly dismissed by Meire will pay a big part in this as they have before when the The Valley was taken away from us.Mendonca In Asdas said:For me, We're only Charlton in name at the moment , the club is completely rudderless, severely lacking in direction and vision, and worst of all taking the complete phish with the fans with regards to the lies that have been told.
Any decent well run company would have axed our ceo ages ago, this is the first time i have ever had a complete and utter loathing of the people running our club, Roland is so out of touch with what's going on over here it's frightening, how much longer will this madness go on?3 -
Don't tempt me to punch you in the faceAFKABartram said:The fans killing Charlton?
Good one
That's like getting punched in the face and apologising for your nose getting InThe way of his fist
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No one didn't want to see this work. I welcomed RD upon arrival with hope and excitement.
Was actually willing to back the experiment until they sacked Luzon, despite that wrenching gut feeling he is a clueless fool and how many mistakes previously made
You might think the level of anger/frustration is detrimental, but for me it's cause and effect, nothing more
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The club is an impending car crash at the moment but we're not the drivers, we're the passengers trying to grab hold of the handbrake before we hit a wall.5
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Why should we - indeed, how can we - continue with our active support when the very thing we cherished has been tarnished by the actions of others? We are blameless. It wasn't us who put in place the decisions and measures of the past two years!
Today's CAFC is demonstrably not what it was. It has become something else, something inferior. We should not allow our emotions to compel us to endure and witness sub-standard fare and drudgery.
Let those who withdraw their active support see the coming time as a hiatus - a frustrating, upsetting hiatus. A return may occur when the 'coast is clear'.
A Valley Party candidate, I loved the collective spirit in assisting CAFC to become decent, forward-thinking, respected, happy and successful. Not wishing to jump to instant conclusions, I gave management the benefit of my doubt. Things did not improve. Relegation beckons. Enough!
CAFC is largely unrecongisable from that which we knew and enjoyed. What has happened is not our fault and we shouldn't feel guilty. We can, in the meantime, get active and help make the hiatus as short as possible.10 -
My 14 year old son has told me he no longer wants to go, he is not enjoying it, a club with out any ambition is not something I can support either. The owner and his management are terrible. This is not our doing is it.
We are thinking of some non-league, some golf, local away games next season.1 -
So if 50,000 of us put in £6k each that'd be, um, £300m.
We could set up some sort of feeder club network with that. Oh.
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The only ones killing the club, are the Rat, Pinocchio, Judas Murray, and anyone who supports the regime in any way.
Think of Charlton like a person with Cancer. The treatment is horrible, and kills a lot of healthy cells, but in most cases the person survives, and rebuilds their life. Not going to The Valley is not nice, getting sponsors to withdraw is not nice, but there is no choice. Much like a person with Cancer, if you accept the ghastly chemotherapy and surgery there is a good chance you will come through, if you decline the treatment you will certainly die.
If the Rat and Pinocchio are not removed, no matter how painful the surgery, Charlton is dead for sure.6
