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Diego Poyet

Confirms if he signed the 2014 contract offered by CAFC, he was probably going on loan to Standard Liege.


Hmmmm.
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  • Greenie Junior
    Greenie Junior Posts: 3,881
    Where..
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,422
    East Kent meeting tonight.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,191
    Can you please ask him to put in a little bit more effort. And pass forwards. Please
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,648
    Well, the board aren't going to be happy with him releasing that are they. Makes me respect him a bit more though despite his poor form since coming back.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,292
    Shows they never intended for him to be apart of the team after that, who would really want to sign a contract like that at the age he was as well, knowing full well you deserve to be playing in the team just won player of the year for, and that he had interest from the premier league.

    I don't blame him for not signing that, and shows again how the board really don't care about the club.

    I am not excusing his performances since rejoining us, they have been awful, but as my girlfriend pointed out last night, he maybe lacking in a lot of confidence. He has moved from us after playing really well, to a premier league club where he would've been hoping to get a lot more game time than he has, so he's been shipped out to a championship club in Huddersfield where he didn't set the world alight. Went back to West Ham where again he didn't play much, to get sent on loan to MK Dons and eventually with us, in a position that's a lot worse than he left us.

    We haven't progressed in the time he has gone, and neither has Diego. He probably is a young player lacking in a lot of confidence.

    Whether he is with us or not in future, I hope he has a great career because he was top class when he broke on to the scene and again, another player from our fantastic academy.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,872
    I suppose this is the thing that will come out eventually that he was going on about on Twitter...
  • Ben18
    Ben18 Posts: 1,638
    Bet he thought the secret would be kept at East Kent Addicks as well
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,174
    I'm still not buying it.. I'm sure they offered him a contract just with us first, but when he refused they offered him the opportunity to play champions league at standard as a last hope of persuading him to stay.

    Well that's what any reasonable people would have tried but knowing this bunch it's quite possible!

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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 17,174
    One question did he say/imply that he would have signed a contract with us if it didn't involve that.. As I'm sure he was leaving no matter what.
  • ChicagoAddick
    ChicagoAddick Posts: 4,406
    I believe he has said that before. He said at the time he would speak out later about the reasons for his move.
  • C_A_F_C
    C_A_F_C Posts: 3,869
    It simply can't be true can it? Information from a East Kent Addicks meeting surely not?
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,422
    You wumming me?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,108
    Well it possibly explains why he hasn't put in an ounce of effort since he returned on loan.

    When here previously he was everywhere, he wanted the ball the whole time.

    Now he's Mr Invisible & hides away and has literally done nothing.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,431
    Then why even come back?
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,235

    I'm still not buying it.. I'm sure they offered him a contract just with us first, but when he refused they offered him the opportunity to play champions league at standard as a last hope of persuading him to stay.

    Well that's what any reasonable people would have tried but knowing this bunch it's quite possible!

    That's what I suppose happened, too. And I thought, and think, it could have been a perfectly reasonable proposal. On its own. The problem is what we now know about how RD has managed both clubs since he made that proposal.

  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,111
    There is a logic, that if you have a network of clubs, that players would go on loan from us to SL, as until he sold them the loans were all the other way

    In this case, while I can understand if Diego didn't want to go to SL, and was angry at the suggestion, it's not like being shunted out on loan to one of RD's small clubs, SL would have been a great place for him to learn another style of football, for which he probably would have been suited.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,444
    The circus continues

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  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,235

    There is a logic, that if you have a network of clubs, that players would go on loan from us to SL, as until he sold them the loans were all the other way

    In this case, while I can understand if Diego didn't want to go to SL, and was angry at the suggestion, it's not like being shunted out on loan to one of RD's small clubs, SL would have been a great place for him to learn another style of football, for which he probably would have been suited.

    Exactly. The mounting evidence that RD is arrogant, barking mad, and using football for his social experiment, does not cancel out the mounting evidence that Diego Poyet, unlike Jordan Cousins, is a knobhead.

  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,213
    Hey, he's got a mouth. He could have used it to say "No, I'm not going to Belgium" if he felt strongly about it.
  • The whole episode from public comments by Gus Poyet and Diego making promises about revelations on twitter when we all knew he was going to go accept a position on much more money than we were ever going to pay, him makes anything he says now look like an excuse - and not terribly reliable.

    I didn't have a problem with him moving for more money and/or better opportunities. The thing is that when one does that, they need to prove to have made the correct decision. Based on loan spells with Huddersfield and MK Dons before joining us, and a total of 28 league games played in the last twenty-one months and only five of those for teams that are not likely to be in the third division next season, it does look like it was the wrong decision.

    Had he stayed with us and refused to play in Belgium he might have racked up close to three times that number of games by now and might now be in a position to earn a transfer to a Premier League club and get into their side - something that he looks miles away from achieving right now.

    The question one needs to ask is 'Is it better to earn £15k a week from 19 to 23 or is it better to earn £80k a week from 23 to 33?'

    That's a question that other players in out youth set up need to be considering too. Ironically Poyet had proved to be a role model both for getting into our side, and leaving the club prematurely. Sadly I fear that most 19 year-olds would always take the £15k a week for four years. I probably would have done too, even if I'd have struggled to find a club willing to pay me £15 a week, never mind £15,000!
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    iamdan said:

    Confirms if he signed the 2014 contract offered by CAFC, he was probably going on loan to Standard Liege.


    Hmmmm.

    Just an observation - he could have said no to going to standard
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    iamdan said:

    Confirms if he signed the 2014 contract offered by CAFC, he was probably going on loan to Standard Liege.


    Hmmmm.

    Just an observation - he could have said no to going to standard
    This. And I'm pretty sure it's against eu laws to write in a contract that they can move you abroad at any time... Although I could be wrong on that!
  • iamdan said:

    Confirms if he signed the 2014 contract offered by CAFC, he was probably going on loan to Standard Liege.


    Hmmmm.

    Just an observation - he could have said no to going to standard
    This. And I'm pretty sure it's against eu laws to write in a contract that they can move you abroad at any time... Although I could be wrong on that!
    Even if it's not an EU law I doubt that he could be forced to move from Charlton, if that's where his contract is, to another club even if both clubs are owned by the same chap.
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,648
    cafcfan said:

    Hey, he's got a mouth. He could have used it to say "No, I'm not going to Belgium" if he felt strongly about it.

    Well he did, as he didn't sign a contract.
  • The whole episode from public comments by Gus Poyet and Diego making promises about revelations on twitter when we all knew he was going to go accept a position on much more money than we were ever going to pay, him makes anything he says now look like an excuse - and not terribly reliable.

    I didn't have a problem with him moving for more money and/or better opportunities. The thing is that when one does that, they need to prove to have made the correct decision. Based on loan spells with Huddersfield and MK Dons before joining us, and a total of 28 league games played in the last twenty-one months and only five of those for teams that are not likely to be in the third division next season, it does look like it was the wrong decision.

    Had he stayed with us and refused to play in Belgium he might have racked up close to three times that number of games by now and might now be in a position to earn a transfer to a Premier League club and get into their side - something that he looks miles away from achieving right now.

    The question one needs to ask is 'Is it better to earn £15k a week from 19 to 23 or is it better to earn £80k a week from 23 to 33?'

    That's a question that other players in out youth set up need to be considering too. Ironically Poyet had proved to be a role model both for getting into our side, and leaving the club prematurely. Sadly I fear that most 19 year-olds would always take the £15k a week for four years. I probably would have done too, even if I'd have struggled to find a club willing to pay me £15 a week, never mind £15,000!

    Or he could have stayed with us, earned less, been found out in his second season as an average player who just had a purple patch, never made it to the PL and earned the money he gets now...
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,376
    I had heard something similar, so it sounds like it might have been true.

    Have also heard that he is not a fan of RD at all apparently.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,074
    cafctom said:

    I had heard something similar, so it sounds like it might have been true.

    Have also heard that he is not a fan of RD at all apparently.

    Apart from KM, is anybody?