T Holmes-Denis out on loan to Oldham
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Unlikely, we've had none of those all season, why would they start now?22
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With Fox, Yun and Bergdych we seem to have enough cover on the left side. I guess Solly or Lennon could play there as well3
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Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?7
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THD had a great game as Right back against Wednesday in that 3-1 win.
Remember the move which left Bannon on his arse.
since his sending off in 10 minutes (2 yellows ) he seems to have become another outcast.
he should be in the 18 every week as he can play in 4 different positions.18 -
Ah, but can he play badly in 4 different positions?soapboxsam said:THD had a great game as Right back against Wednesday in that 3-1 win.
Remember the move which left Bannon on his arse.
since his sending off in 10 minutes (2 yellows ) he seems to have become another outcast.
he should be in the 18 every week as he can play in 4 different positions.6 -
Yet another good player that will end up being pushed out from the regime, he's better than Fox, his pace will cause most teams problems.2
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Arguably playing him in our last 9 games in the Championship will more likely do him more harm than good.daveydanger said:Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?
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We're getting ready for League One Football next season by getting him to go and scout the opposition.
Callum Harriott was sent there earlier in the season for the same reason so expect others to do the same.10 -
Nothing to do with football, they're just getting him off the payroll.9
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Don't let Roland see this, he will be telling Jose to only field 8 players............more cost savingssoapboxsam said:THD had a great game as Right back against Wednesday in that 3-1 win.
Remember the move which left Bannon on his arse.
since his sending off in 10 minutes (2 yellows ) he seems to have become another outcast.
he should be in the 18 every week as he can play in 4 different positions.4 - Sponsored links:
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I'm lucky I read this before leaving work, I might find the last line a more difficult mathematical problem in a couple of hours, but I think it makes sense now....eaststandmike said:
Don't let Roland see this, he will be telling Jose to only field 8 players............more cost savingssoapboxsam said:THD had a great game as Right back against Wednesday in that 3-1 win.
Remember the move which left Bannon on his arse.
since his sending off in 10 minutes (2 yellows ) he seems to have become another outcast.
he should be in the 18 every week as he can play in 4 different positions.
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He cannot defend anywhere near as well as Fox.SheedyCAFC said:Yet another good player that will end up being pushed out from the regime, he's better than Fox, his pace will cause most teams problems.
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Lucky chap - going to the most deprived town in England.
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Good experience for the lad, I'm sure we can recall him should needs be.daveydanger said:Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?
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Not really sure why? But anyway, I just meant that with so few games left, why bother sending players out? Even if there's a chance we'd need him for, say, 2 games - or maybe just cover on the bench or whatever - let's keep all of our options available. Fox has had a torrid few months, so it makes no sense to arbitrarily remove an option for that position.Bedsaddick said:
Arguably playing him in our last 9 games in the Championship will more likely do him more harm than good.daveydanger said:Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?
As mentioned above, can't be a football decision.1 -
I'd guess he can play badly in nine different positions, and tolerably well in two.ricky_otto said:
Ah, but can he play badly in 4 different positions?soapboxsam said:THD had a great game as Right back against Wednesday in that 3-1 win.
Remember the move which left Bannon on his arse.
since his sending off in 10 minutes (2 yellows ) he seems to have become another outcast.
he should be in the 18 every week as he can play in 4 different positions.0 -
Must be earning pretty well, saw him driving around the ground in his Audi TT a few weeks back!
Nonetheless, a very decent player and I'd rather we had him here, and in the first team.0 -
Given the geniuses in charge of our club I wouldn't be too sure of that.Essex_Al said:
Good experience for the lad, I'm sure we can recall him should needs be.daveydanger said:Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?
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Potty. Has already shown he can play at this level. Should be in our squad.3
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Could only 8 players do any worse???eaststandmike said:
Don't let Roland see this, he will be telling Jose to only field 8 players............more cost savingssoapboxsam said:THD had a great game as Right back against Wednesday in that 3-1 win.
Remember the move which left Bannon on his arse.
since his sending off in 10 minutes (2 yellows ) he seems to have become another outcast.
he should be in the 18 every week as he can play in 4 different positions.
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In one home game he had to play in 3 different positions and did fine.ricky_otto said:
Ah, but can he play badly in 4 different positions?soapboxsam said:THD had a great game as Right back against Wednesday in that 3-1 win.
Remember the move which left Bannon on his arse.
since his sending off in 10 minutes (2 yellows ) he seems to have become another outcast.
he should be in the 18 every week as he can play in 4 different positions.0 -
Fox has played pretty well the last couple of matches, and we have plenty of cover in THD's position.daveydanger said:
Not really sure why? But anyway, I just meant that with so few games left, why bother sending players out? Even if there's a chance we'd need him for, say, 2 games - or maybe just cover on the bench or whatever - let's keep all of our options available. Fox has had a torrid few months, so it makes no sense to arbitrarily remove an option for that position.Bedsaddick said:
Arguably playing him in our last 9 games in the Championship will more likely do him more harm than good.daveydanger said:Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?
As mentioned above, can't be a football decision.
It makes sense for THD to get some first team football, rather than wasting 2 months on the bench
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As far as defensive Left Backs, we have Lennon and Fox. For wingbacks, we have Bergdich and Yun. I'd rather he go and hopefully play 9 games rather than scrap to make the 18 for the run in.
I have to say I don't quite get the hype around him, it feels like one of those the grass is always greener when compared to Fox. He looks decent going forward, not brilliant. But defensively, his positioning and lack of physicality make him a liability. When he was moved to left sided midfield against Ipswich he looked awful (to be fair, not his position). He's done a job at Right Back a couple times, and fair play to him, but the sending off against Forest was incredibly daft and made him look like a young player lacking matches and good decision making. For me, this loan makes sense.2 -
I imagine he'll get a lot of game time there.killerandflash said:
Fox has played pretty well the last couple of matches, and we have plenty of cover in THD's position.daveydanger said:
Not really sure why? But anyway, I just meant that with so few games left, why bother sending players out? Even if there's a chance we'd need him for, say, 2 games - or maybe just cover on the bench or whatever - let's keep all of our options available. Fox has had a torrid few months, so it makes no sense to arbitrarily remove an option for that position.Bedsaddick said:
Arguably playing him in our last 9 games in the Championship will more likely do him more harm than good.daveydanger said:Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?
As mentioned above, can't be a football decision.
It makes sense for THD to get some first team football, rather than wasting 2 months on the bench
Went on the Oldham site yesterday and the manager Sheridan had him at Plymouth and rates him quite highly.
Good experience for next season in all honesty.
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Apart from the fact that he is better than all three of them (and Lennon too).killerandflash said:With Fox, Yun and Bergdych we seem to have enough cover on the left side. I guess Solly or Lennon could play there as well
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Disagree. I think a team in our position should keep everyone available, particularly as I believe he is a better player than Fox and should be pushing Suk-Young for a starting place.killerandflash said:
Fox has played pretty well the last couple of matches, and we have plenty of cover in THD's position.daveydanger said:
Not really sure why? But anyway, I just meant that with so few games left, why bother sending players out? Even if there's a chance we'd need him for, say, 2 games - or maybe just cover on the bench or whatever - let's keep all of our options available. Fox has had a torrid few months, so it makes no sense to arbitrarily remove an option for that position.Bedsaddick said:
Arguably playing him in our last 9 games in the Championship will more likely do him more harm than good.daveydanger said:Don't get this. Why not just keep him in the building for the last 9 games?
As mentioned above, can't be a football decision.
It makes sense for THD to get some first team football, rather than wasting 2 months on the bench
A few weeks ago Begdich was playing well, Mak had just had a resergence and looked great. Things can changed very quickly, and I think it makes sense to keep all options open while we fight relegation.
Not sure that 7 or 8 games in the Oldham setup will hugely benefit him or us at this point in the season.0 -
Oldham are winnable games next season, he might help keep them up this season Could be 6 points lost towards next seasons relegation battle - Roly, you havent thought your plan out.1
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Could easily be a prominent player next season but not this. Makes good sense to me that he gets first team games under his belt.1
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Reckon he's going to be an important player next season BUT
Playing youngsters before they're ready over experience is what has got us in this mess... Holmes-Dennis is a great talent, he was brilliant at Birmingham and whilst I think he's ready, he's not what we need on the pitch when we're fighting for survival... this isnt the time for kids making mistakes which could effect them forever2
