Sale of Sparrows Lane
Has anyone heard anything about the possible sale of Sparrows Lane? My mate's sister, who is a very small time property developer, mentioned to me a few weeks ago that an estate agent had let slip to her that it was potentially available as a space for building flats. Estate agent said "I'm not supposed to mention that". Didn't pay much attention at the time, just something that was mentioned in passing whilst I was busy getting pissed at someone's birthday party.
Went to Dulwich against Tonbridge Angels today and got introduced to a friend of a friend. When I said I supported Charlton he said "I hear they're trying to sell their training ground in Eltham."
Is this common knowledge? Neither of these people have any interest in Charlton, so not reliable sources, but no agenda to spread rumours maliciously either.
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Is it possible that there's a portion of the training ground that isn't required for the player farm and is suitable for re-zoning and selling on?1
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I suspect they are confusing the sale of land by the University for the building flats.1
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No idea , but should a sale happen - could be RD asset stripping before buggering off!?1
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Never been to Sparrows Lane so don't know what the layout or space is. Was surprised to hear this rumour as Roland's only potentially positive input appears to be upgrading our academy, so would make more sense if it was just selling off a small plot. The secretive attitude of the estate agent seemed a bit suspicious though.1
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Almost impossible to get planning permission and is one of the main good things Roland and Katrien have been crowing about.
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Yep, he's selling it and looking to move training to Sutcliffe Park.
Riga's gonna arrive early to clear the dog shit off the pitch.13 -
Yes, it's designated green land, or whatever the technical term issam3110 said:Almost impossible to get planning permission and is one of the main good things Roland and Katrien have been crowing about.
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It's going to be a human centipede of players coming in and out.0
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Replacing like for like....mid_life_crisis said:Yep, he's selling it and looking to move training to Sutcliffe Park.
Riga's gonna arrive early to clear the dog shit off the pitch.5 -
Isn't the club doing a bit of their own development at Sparrows ?
Confusion somewhere here. Won't happen.0 - Sponsored links:
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None of the land in that area can be built on, other than in direct connection with sport and leisure.2
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Surely he can just ask Johnson and Ba to move?mid_life_crisis said:Yep, he's selling it and looking to move training to Sutcliffe Park.
Riga's gonna arrive early to clear the dog shit off the pitch.7 -
That made me laugh (dryly).LoOkOuT said:Is it possible that there's a portion of the training ground that isn't required for the player farm and is suitable for re-zoning and selling on?
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Flats for some of the younger players0
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Metropolitan Open Land. And yup, sounds very unlikely, unless a council is very keen.killerandflash said:
Yes, it's designated green land, or whatever the technical term issam3110 said:Almost impossible to get planning permission and is one of the main good things Roland and Katrien have been crowing about.
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Sparrows Lane Urban Player Farm And Donkey Sanctuary - home to the largest herd of neglected Belgian league mules in europeSantaClaus said:
That made me laugh (dryly).LoOkOuT said:Is it possible that there's a portion of the training ground that isn't required for the player farm and is suitable for re-zoning and selling on?
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When we were at the recent 'Training Ground Experience' we were told that part of the new building will containing rooms to allow players to sleep there.0
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Like a prisoner of war camp. Tony Cajones controlling the watch tower.stonemuse said:Flats for some of the younger players
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Like a prisoner of war camp. Tony Cajones controlling the watch tower.stonemuse said:Flats for some of the younger players
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It is an outrage that it seems Roland views players as 'units' or pieces of meat.
It is especially wrong when it comes to young players. The recent deployment of Lookman is one example.
Talented young footballers have family, agents, clubs and other players all on their case, but they are young and inexperienced in the ways of the world. However they are people who deserve to be treated holistically as a person rather than as a chess piece or an animal.
When Duchatelet first took over and bewildered players pitched up at Sparrows Lane, to be greeted by a bewildered Chris Powell it was indicative of a huge misunderstanding regarding this people based industry.
Not every player will end up as a success, but they remain people. I know footballers thirst to get involved of their own free will, but the duty of care extends to both the successful and the less successful.
I imagine Roland knows two things about 'his' footballers. Their names, and how much they're worth.8 -
Doubt he knows their names, probably just their barcode number.6
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He's selling it to Millwall. Training ground share.0
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Reza's escaped - don't worry no loss, anyway he hasn't got the strength to climb over the fence.T.C.E said:ricky_otto said:
Like a prisoner of war camp. Tony Cajones controlling the watch tower.stonemuse said:Flats for some of the younger players
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Palace are looking for a training ground and they are loaded with Premiership money.0
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Hopefully that guy is on the inside looking out to make sure Reza does not come back.ricky_otto said:
Reza's escaped - don't worry no loss, anyway he hasn't got the strength to climb over the fence.T.C.E said:ricky_otto said:
Like a prisoner of war camp. Tony Cajones controlling the watch tower.stonemuse said:Flats for some of the younger players
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To be honest this applies to all Football clubs. Players of all ages and abilities are meat to be traded or cast off as required. In the past we have done it to our most senior and revered of players.seth plum said:It is an outrage that it seems Roland views players as 'units' or pieces of meat.
It is especially wrong when it comes to young players. The recent deployment of Lookman is one example.
Talented young footballers have family, agents, clubs and other players all on their case, but they are young and inexperienced in the ways of the world. However they are people who deserve to be treated holistically as a person rather than as a chess piece or an animal.
When Duchatelet first took over and bewildered players pitched up at Sparrows Lane, to be greeted by a bewildered Chris Powell it was indicative of a huge misunderstanding regarding this people based industry.
Not every player will end up as a success, but they remain people. I know footballers thirst to get involved of their own free will, but the duty of care extends to both the successful and the less successful.
I imagine Roland knows two things about 'his' footballers. Their names, and how much they're worth.
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It most definitely isn't impossible to get planning permission to build on MGB land. Or GB land in general. It will become increasing more common over the next couple of years as councils scramble to meet their housing targets, with developers contributing to the local community via 106 agreements. This basically means all land really is up for grabs despite whatever label has been put on it.1
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The difference this time is how remote Roland is. has he seem any match played at Sparrows lane let alone the Valley?Kap10 said:
To be honest this applies to all Football clubs. Players of all ages and abilities are meat to be traded or cast off as required. In the past we have done it to our most senior and revered of players.seth plum said:It is an outrage that it seems Roland views players as 'units' or pieces of meat.
It is especially wrong when it comes to young players. The recent deployment of Lookman is one example.
Talented young footballers have family, agents, clubs and other players all on their case, but they are young and inexperienced in the ways of the world. However they are people who deserve to be treated holistically as a person rather than as a chess piece or an animal.
When Duchatelet first took over and bewildered players pitched up at Sparrows Lane, to be greeted by a bewildered Chris Powell it was indicative of a huge misunderstanding regarding this people based industry.
Not every player will end up as a success, but they remain people. I know footballers thirst to get involved of their own free will, but the duty of care extends to both the successful and the less successful.
I imagine Roland knows two things about 'his' footballers. Their names, and how much they're worth.
I do agree that football clubs, and Charlton are guilty of this too, leave a lot to be desired in the way they employ young players, but maybe it is a fantasy that I have thought the we have had a bit of an edge in decent treatment of our youngsters since the days of Colin Clarke and then John Cartwright. A period of time that also saw the growth of our community and other initiatives.
Anyway a remote Roland does not compare with owners who interact with our players more frequently in my view.1 -
Here's a picture of a Roland remote. As can be seen he has the ability to control the speed of the players. But not the direction they are moving in.seth plum said:Kap10 said:
To be honest this applies to all Football clubs. Players of all ages and abilities are meat to be traded or cast off as required. In the past we have done it to our most senior and revered of players.seth plum said:It is an outrage that it seems Roland views players as 'units' or pieces of meat.
It is especially wrong when it comes to young players. The recent deployment of Lookman is one example.
Talented young footballers have family, agents, clubs and other players all on their case, but they are young and inexperienced in the ways of the world. However they are people who deserve to be treated holistically as a person rather than as a chess piece or an animal.
When Duchatelet first took over and bewildered players pitched up at Sparrows Lane, to be greeted by a bewildered Chris Powell it was indicative of a huge misunderstanding regarding this people based industry.
Not every player will end up as a success, but they remain people. I know footballers thirst to get involved of their own free will, but the duty of care extends to both the successful and the less successful.
I imagine Roland knows two things about 'his' footballers. Their names, and how much they're worth.
a remote Roland
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