VOTV - New takeover news
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Been staring into a deep deep and dark chasm over my football club for what seems so long now, I will need these rumours to get me through the close season. Let's hope there is some substance in this.3
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I remember getting excited when we were told 2 years ago that a multi-millionaire was taking us over to replace the broke owner we had. Excuse me if I do not get too excited over rumours of a new owner10
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True, but any new potential owner would have to go some to top Roland, Daisy and Cahonesross1 said:I remember getting excited when we were told 2 years ago that a multi-millionaire was taking us over to replace the broke owner we had. Excuse me if I do not get too excited over rumours of a new owner
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I thought it was bad enough with The Krankies pi55ing off the customers, but then the Pilbury Dough boy turned up and upset those on the inside of club. Someone please tell me it can't get worse, can it, surely not?cafc999 said:
True, but any new potential owner would have to go some to top Roland, Daisy and Cahonesross1 said:I remember getting excited when we were told 2 years ago that a multi-millionaire was taking us over to replace the broke owner we had. Excuse me if I do not get too excited over rumours of a new owner
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How on earth can he want £38,000,000 for a League One club, when he purchased it only 2 years prior for £20,000,000 and it was a league higher and staffed with competent and qualified staff?
Dealing with reality has never been one of their strong points I'm afraid.8 -
Yes, Tony the Pony is quite something else, his latest "brainwave" is that he wants staff to ring up people that have not renewed there season ticket and ask them why. When one member of staff told him that they already knew that answer, our hero, Tony the Pony then went on to say that "He wanted to hear it from them..!!"T.C.E said:
I thought it was bad enough with The Krankies pi55ing off the customers, but then the Pilbury Dough boy turned up and upset those on the inside of club. Someone please tell me it can't get worse, can it, surely not?cafc999 said:
True, but any new potential owner would have to go some to top Roland, Daisy and Cahonesross1 said:I remember getting excited when we were told 2 years ago that a multi-millionaire was taking us over to replace the broke owner we had. Excuse me if I do not get too excited over rumours of a new owner
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To be fair, as soon as Roland's name came up in a serious way we had Standard fans popping up telling us he was a nutcase and that he didn't understand football. No doubt if this bid has any legs we'll hear a bit more about the make up of the consortium and we can make our minds up from there. We knew Roland was a high risk takeover from the start, we just hoped things would be different with us. We were wrong.ross1 said:I remember getting excited when we were told 2 years ago that a multi-millionaire was taking us over to replace the broke owner we had. Excuse me if I do not get too excited over rumours of a new owner
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Go on Tony the Pony make my day!6
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He hasn't increased it's value, he has messed it up which has to be reflected in the price.2
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I'd love to see some of your go on Dragons Den with your grasp of business valuations!0
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Look forward to receiving that call.cafc999 said:
Yes, Tony the Pony is quite something else, his latest "brainwave" is that he wants staff to ring up people that have not renewed there season ticket and ask them why. When one member of staff told him that they already knew that answer, our hero, Tony the Pony then went on to say that "He wanted to hear it from them..!!"T.C.E said:
I thought it was bad enough with The Krankies pi55ing off the customers, but then the Pilbury Dough boy turned up and upset those on the inside of club. Someone please tell me it can't get worse, can it, surely not?cafc999 said:
True, but any new potential owner would have to go some to top Roland, Daisy and Cahonesross1 said:I remember getting excited when we were told 2 years ago that a multi-millionaire was taking us over to replace the broke owner we had. Excuse me if I do not get too excited over rumours of a new owner
What a complete loser
How long have you got mate?5 -
£38,000,000 is the opening Gambit.
He should take £18,000,000 and think himself lucky.
The A star Cockwomble.2 -
Yes so write off all debt (don't worry Roland I'm sure you'll get a tax deduction for your loss),
Please sell the club company to a buyer who does not debt load the acquisition vehicle but instead buys it with honest (dodgy oil or laundered Eastern European or Asian cash) dollar.
After west London property a potentially big club has to be the best way to launder money ever. Just call Saul, he will tell you.0 -
I suspect that is true but at the end of the day "tupence is tupence"Airman Brown said:
I agree but I suspect he has painted a picture of Varney - and his previous involvement with the club - that few who were there would recognise.carly burn said:
Not really up to him though is it. As far as a sale is concerned wouldn't Duchatelet be a lot more hands on instead of leaving it to his F**wit management team?Airman Brown said:
Not to my knowledge. Murray will be desperate to prevent that.carly burn said:
Has Varney had a call?Airman Brown said:I think the key to understanding what has changed is that until recently the board and SMT had never accepted we would go down. To some extent RD may have been misled by the last two seasons into believing it was easier to get out of trouble than it is. Murray has been telling them that although fans would still be unhappy, there would be no protests without a small number of troublemakers stirring it - you can guess the names.
I can see why he might choose to think that, however that's not the real dynamic with CARD as many people involved in the organisation and decision-making would be unknown to him (and me until recently). Anyway, they thought they could contain the situation, results would turn and the problems would go away.
The Elliott interest has been around for at least four months. The point is that the door, which was firmly shut, is now at least ajar, and it is RD who has opened it. Everything else is negotiation. I don't know if Elliott and his associates are credible, but the story did not come from the club.
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Can't help but feel this is probably more pissing about from Duchatalet. Open the door to a possible buy-out (he got stung before when he didn't and doesn't need a repeat of that) as it may calm protests a little for the last two home matches, but name a ridiculously high price. If the buyers withdraw he has tried but they couldn't pay what it was worth (ie what Roland thinks it is still worth), and if they buy at a crazy price he's got out of a bad situation with minimal losses.2
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Despite all the evidence to the contrary, Roland must understand that at this point all he's doing is throwing away more money.
He might want £38m, but if he keeps hanging out for that, with no takers, he'll have to keep loaning the club more money to stay afloat, unless he really believes he has a pipeline of £5m players coming through the academy.
The worry would be that he thinks he can raise a bunch of money from selling JBG and Lookman, enough to fund next years losses0 -
Once RD and the puppet have gone then we need to go after Tony the Pony.
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With FFP in L1 he will have to put in real money and that will hurt him.SomervilleAddick said:Despite all the evidence to the contrary, Roland must understand that at this point all he's doing is throwing away more money.
He might want £38m, but if he keeps hanging out for that, with no takers, he'll have to keep loaning the club more money to stay afloat, unless he really believes he has a pipeline of £5m players coming through the academy.
The worry would be that he thinks he can raise a bunch of money from selling JBG and Lookman, enough to fund next years losses2 -
It would be because of busy bodies that the Belgian will have fucked off and we'll all still have a club to support in 5 years.PL54 said:But what will the busybodies do if anything goes wrong in the first few months of any new buyer's ownership.
CAPE15 -
A decent owner should quickly get a measure of those that are out of their depth and act swiftly. We still have to get rid of Roly and Meire first. Whilst the signs may be looking a bit more positive, they are still here, and could still be for some time yet.Goonerhater said:Once RD and the puppet have gone then we need to go after Tony the Pony.
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I've seen a limited amount of keohane but what I and absolutely sure of, and I hope you are reading this, you are a useless bullying c**t who isn't fit to hold a senior post anywhere.
I may be wrong though
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I doubt itAlwaysneil said:I've seen a limited amount of keohane but what I and absolutely sure of, and I hope you are reading this, you are a useless bullying c**t who isn't fit to hold a senior post anywhere.
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I admit my grasp of FFP is shaky, but, worryingly, I think he could cut the playing wage budget to 60% of turnover, and continue to fund the club through loans. I don't think FFP prohibits loans as such, it's just that loans don't count towards turnover in the percentage of turnover calculation.Hex said:
With FFP in L1 he will have to put in real money and that will hurt him.SomervilleAddick said:Despite all the evidence to the contrary, Roland must understand that at this point all he's doing is throwing away more money.
He might want £38m, but if he keeps hanging out for that, with no takers, he'll have to keep loaning the club more money to stay afloat, unless he really believes he has a pipeline of £5m players coming through the academy.
The worry would be that he thinks he can raise a bunch of money from selling JBG and Lookman, enough to fund next years losses0 -
Care to expand? I hear a lot of bad things said about this bloke but not really any supporting evidence.Alwaysneil said:I've seen a limited amount of keohane but what I and absolutely sure of, and I hope you are reading this, you are a useless bullying c**t who isn't fit to hold a senior post anywhere.
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This just posted on FB...
"Yes, Elliott is heading consortium to buy club, as is another FP based in America. Along with Varney's, if they were interested in purchase rather than investment, that makes three potential buyers."0 -
FP?
A choice of buyers sounds promising though0 -
Former playerkillerandflash said:FP?
A choice of buyers sounds promising though0 -
John Robinson?0
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Tutt isn't it?0
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Don't forget the Graham Tutt "approach" that got airtime on here recently. May well be the 3rd possibility. Judging on apparent credibility the odds must be:
1. Varney
2. Elliott
3. Tutt
Where's @PeanutsMolloy to give us the form and odds?
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