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Katrien Meire: The Full Statement!

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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,946
    PassItToLeaburn said:

    seth plum said:

    I honestly thought this was made up, like my first reaction to the Roland statement.

    However she said it it seems.

    So much to chew on here (she said it in a public forum so reacting to it is fair enough), but one thought I have had is about her support network and who is suggesting stuff to here. Given the nature of the conferences she is so fond of, including hosting a women in football event at the Valley, and given the nature of the support from Jo Tongue, I can easily see the thought process that goes

    I am a young woman in sport.
    It is a sexist world.
    They get at me because I am a woman.
    It is a racist world.
    Non white people get it because of their race, just as I get it because of my gender.
    To attack me is sexist, which is akin to racist, so those who attack me are also racists to all intents and purposes.

    Katrien is wrong. She is attacked because she is destroying Charlton Athletic.

    P.S.
    The stuff about children resonates with a lifer being told by Cojones that it was their six year old that the club want to attract, and also resonates with other stuff the regime have been initiating in trying to get children attached to the club.

    The regime is waiting for all us old sexist racists to die basically.

    Who do they think is going to take these children to the games? Are they going to rock up on their own?
    The rate we are going they will be playing.
  • kings hill addick
    kings hill addick Posts: 5,781
    The_President said:

    She's clearly wanted to get something out since the last Belgium trip on 23rd April - it must have been really tough for her to keep her big gob shut all that time with it all bubbling under - and then suddenly today someone released the pressure valve and whoosh....off went the helium balloon. I must admit, that she has done well to keep it under wraps that long - i'm not sure i could have done the same.

    In fairness she might have thought it advisable to bring up her parents on the basis that it has been criticised on here. Its ironic though because even though I was adamant that it was the wrong thing to do I don't have any empathy with or sympathy for her.

    She just seems unable to avoid controversy when she speaks publicly away from Charlton. I thought after her performance in Dublin that she was trying to 'pick a fight' with the fans and let them know that she will stand her ground and 'punish' them for having the nerve to stand up to her. Since then the balance has changed and she must know that she is both in the wrong and fantastically unpopular. This outburst and the lack of intelligence and awareness that is shows makes me question if she, actually, passed a degree in Law and is even qualified to practice it at all.

    I know there are different levels of competences in all walks of life but she doesn't seem to have the basic intelligence that I would expect as a minimum for anyone to be allowed to practice law, or fry a Big Mac for that matter. She has looked out of her depth for a long time but now she is starting to look a little thick. even a most emotional person would think about the consequences of what they are going to say and any lawyer doesn't lose their self control like she must have done to spout the things she has. It all points to the suggestion that she deliberately chose to say the things she did and that shows such a staggering lack or awareness or intelligence.

    Time will tell but this last twelve months might well have ensured that when Roland tires of her she will be unemployable, not just in a senior position but in any job.

    It's just staggering!
  • CrayAddick
    CrayAddick Posts: 3,913
    Clearly reading Charlton Life ;).. Bet she loved the Would you thread :)
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3587945/Charlton-supporters-crossed-line-criticism-claims-club-chief-Katrien-Meire.html
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,815
    I don't join in to the 'Katrien is a slapper' chants, and only at the one away game I've been to this season (without my son) have I joined in the 'Hey Roland' chants without modifying the c**t at the end to some normal words.

    We could easily make the chants swear free but for goodness sake it's football. Personal abuse happens every game and it is a normal part of the game. While for some, it would be preferable if it were not, for others it would blunt the effect and the force of the chants.

    If I were the CEO of a business and I was at a conference where those on stage suggested the club was run badly, I would feel the need to respond. Hopefully, I wouldn't get into that position but if I had, I would not respond in a way that reinforced, in front of everyone in my industry, that I had lost the plot and was losing it more second by second.

    Her comments were very ill judged, tried to justify the unjustifiable through weak complaints against the minority of protests that have been close to (but not for many over the wire or over the wire enough).

    When she looks back on this, it will be another awful day in a career of awful days.

    Katrien, it's time to go. Plucky though you undoubtedly are, you are not experienced enough or sufficiently competent in many areas to do the role of CEO of Charlton Athletic successfully. Not now, nor at any point in the future.

    Please find a way out so that you are not further embarrassed.

    Many thanks
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,372
    Not the first time the gender card has been hinted at. I remember some bollocks about "I hope the protestors don't have girlfriends or daughters they talk to like that" or something to that effect
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    smudge7946 said:

    She makes mad statements around the same time every month. She's clearly having a woman's period.

    Welcome to the world of KMs menstrual cycle.

    Sexist nonsense, and again completely unneeded.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    edited May 2016
    Grapevine49 said:

    I struggle to recall a more adolescent or juvenile outburst from any employer, employee or student during a 40yr working career.

    The delusion extends to the eradication of foul and abusive language. It speaks to the complete ignorance of the origins of professional football in the UK. The game was spawned in the industrial heartlands of the country. It was a working mans' game played by working men watched by working men coming off of their Saturday morning shifts.

    It is a working mans sport. Most professional sport has similar origins. It is not meant for the faint heated or the genteel. I concede I have little knowledge of provincial sport in Belgium but in the grown up world of professional sport across the globe foul and abusive language is commonplace.

    Professional sport is hard, competitive, physically and mentally demanding. Sports people of both genders when competing to the limit of their abilities will on occasion step into areas of physical violence and regularly use such language in the clear presence of any watching audience no matter their age or gender.
    That a small minority take it to excess is regrettable but it is part and parcel of society today. You may as well complain to the Prime Minister as the sports industry governance authorities. Anyone of any maturity and/or not wrapped in their own cocoon would know this.

    ...

    The origins of the game don't matter if someone is being abused in a sexist fashion. The origins of the game were also in all-male bording schools to be a form of "Muscular Christianity," and in part to avoid masturbation. I don't see what that has to do with the game as funded and branded by Sky and owned by a diverse group of peoples in the 21st century.

    You have just trotted out well written versions of the sentiment that have kept blacks, gays, foreigners, and women from being allowed into the game for over a century. If you can't be in a public place in 2016 without calling someone a "c*nt" or a "slapper," then you're wrong. And whatever era or social standard you're nostalgic for was wrong as well.

    Katrien Meire's comments were silly, and misjudged, but that does not excuse sexism.

    Jon Stewart just spoke very well to political correctness and inclusion in society. I'll defer to this as I don't know that I can add anything nuanced.

    https://youtu.be/Da5VYSPsoE0?t=11m48s
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    cafctom said:

    Not the first time the gender card has been hinted at. I remember some bollocks about "I hope the protestors don't have girlfriends or daughters they talk to like that" or something to that effect

    Yep.

    Cue a bloke checking on the poor damsal in distress when we were talking outside today. Once again, what seemed perplexing has now been explained by her statement.

    What's really sexist about this whole situation is that her gender is even being mentioned, and that she was originally used as an example of a "woman in a mans world"; a narrative that has now declined to hiding behind her gender and relying upon men who feel the need to step to her assistance. (No one in this thread! The example above.)

    Much in the same way Powell was pulled out whenever race issues in football management were in the news - as some form of outdated "token black guy", and not as a professional football manager - it stinks, and it undermines the whole argument.

    Rather then looking at her gender lets look at her qualifications, achievements and comments. All of which are inappropriate or inexistent.

    If we're sexist for disliking someone who we deem to inept, then they're racist for sacking Chris Powell, anti-semetic for sacking an Israeli Jew and xenophobic for continuing to employ Belgian after Belgian. But they're none of those things, and we're not sexist.

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  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    LuckyReds said:

    cafctom said:

    Not the first time the gender card has been hinted at. I remember some bollocks about "I hope the protestors don't have girlfriends or daughters they talk to like that" or something to that effect

    Yep.

    Cue a bloke checking on the poor damsal in distress when we were talking outside today. Once again, what seemed perplexing has now been explained by her statement.

    What's really sexist about this whole situation is that her gender is even being mentioned, and that she was originally used as an example of a "woman in a mans world"; a narrative that has now declined to hiding behind her gender and relying upon men who feel the need to step to her assistance. (No one in this thread! The example above.)

    Much in the same way Powell was pulled out whenever race issues in football management were in the news - as some form of outdated "token black guy", and not as a professional football manager - it stinks, and it undermines the whole argument.

    Rather then looking at her gender lets look at her qualifications, achievements and comments. All of which are inappropriate or inexistent.

    If we're sexist for disliking someone who we deem to inept, then they're racist for sacking Chris Powell, anti-semetic for sacking an Israeli Jew and xenophobic for continuing to employ Belgian after Belgian. But they're none of those things, and we're not sexist.
    Okay, before I respond, are you referring to my post?
  • LuckyReds
    LuckyReds Posts: 5,866
    edited May 2016
    SDAddick said:

    LuckyReds said:

    cafctom said:

    Not the first time the gender card has been hinted at. I remember some bollocks about "I hope the protestors don't have girlfriends or daughters they talk to like that" or something to that effect

    Yep.

    Cue a bloke checking on the poor damsal in distress when we were talking outside today. Once again, what seemed perplexing has now been explained by her statement.

    What's really sexist about this whole situation is that her gender is even being mentioned, and that she was originally used as an example of a "woman in a mans world"; a narrative that has now declined to hiding behind her gender and relying upon men who feel the need to step to her assistance. (No one in this thread! The example above.)

    Much in the same way Powell was pulled out whenever race issues in football management were in the news - as some form of outdated "token black guy", and not as a professional football manager - it stinks, and it undermines the whole argument.

    Rather then looking at her gender lets look at her qualifications, achievements and comments. All of which are inappropriate or inexistent.

    If we're sexist for disliking someone who we deem to inept, then they're racist for sacking Chris Powell, anti-semetic for sacking an Israeli Jew and xenophobic for continuing to employ Belgian after Belgian. But they're none of those things, and we're not sexist.
    Okay, before I respond, are you referring to my post?
    No!!!

    That's specifically why I put no one in this thread, I think I even liked your post @SDAddick - as usual you've spoken a lot of sense.

    I meant the example above IN my post, the chap who saw Katrien talking to two polite fans but felt the need to give one a shitty look (hence why I took it to heart ;)) whilst checking she was OK, and that we weren't being mean. I doubt that would've happened to a bloke chatting to two others, or without the sexism she's hinted towards.

    I apologise if you misunderstood, but I did specifically say no one in the thread - and pointed towards my example.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,468
    LuckyReds said:

    SDAddick said:

    LuckyReds said:

    cafctom said:

    Not the first time the gender card has been hinted at. I remember some bollocks about "I hope the protestors don't have girlfriends or daughters they talk to like that" or something to that effect

    Yep.

    Cue a bloke checking on the poor damsal in distress when we were talking outside today. Once again, what seemed perplexing has now been explained by her statement.

    What's really sexist about this whole situation is that her gender is even being mentioned, and that she was originally used as an example of a "woman in a mans world"; a narrative that has now declined to hiding behind her gender and relying upon men who feel the need to step to her assistance. (No one in this thread! The example above.)

    Much in the same way Powell was pulled out whenever race issues in football management were in the news - as some form of outdated "token black guy", and not as a professional football manager - it stinks, and it undermines the whole argument.

    Rather then looking at her gender lets look at her qualifications, achievements and comments. All of which are inappropriate or inexistent.

    If we're sexist for disliking someone who we deem to inept, then they're racist for sacking Chris Powell, anti-semetic for sacking an Israeli Jew and xenophobic for continuing to employ Belgian after Belgian. But they're none of those things, and we're not sexist.
    Okay, before I respond, are you referring to my post?
    No!!!

    That's specifically why I put no one in this thread, I think I even liked your post @SDAddick - as usual you've spoken a lot of sense.

    I meant the example above IN my post, the chap who saw Katrien talking to two polite fans but felt the need to give one a shitty look (hence why I took it to heart ;)) whilst checking she was OK, and that we weren't being mean. I doubt that would've happened to a bloke chatting to two others, or without the sexism she's hinted towards.

    I apologise if you misunderstood, but I did specifically say no one in the thread - and pointed towards my example.
    Sorry fella, thanks for the clarification. Just had my tea, might have been a bit cranky beforehand ;).
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    mid_life_crisis said:

    Any reaction from Sue Parkes yet?

    She's composing a joint statement with Shay Given.
  • WasCharleyOne
    WasCharleyOne Posts: 517
    CrayAddick said:

    Clearly reading Charlton Life ;).. Bet she loved the Would you thread :)

    I would though... in the centre circle. :smiley:
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,092
    carly burn said:

    So in her 'Dublin moment' she said the fans were weird for trying to have a say in the club and they should mind their own.

    Today it's not fair that the CEO carries the can!

    The brass of this woman.

    No, she is a brass.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,092
    rikofold said:

    RanTooFar said:

    HardyAddick said:

    Another new article in the main Telegraph sports section

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/12/i-have-suffered-extreme-abuse-says-charlton-executive-katrien-me/

    I'll ask yet again - what extreme and vile personal abuse?!
    Well for a start the 'slapper' and 'chlamydia' song; the c-word posted on the comments of the Dublin video. I'm also aware of some particularly nasty emails she's received, a small number crossing the line into criminal transgression.

    I'm in no way defending her, and she may have the skin (and hide) of a rhino - but let's not pretend she's not been abused.
    The visiting of her parents was out of order.

    The rest she is fair game for and deserves.

    F*** her.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,871
    ElfsborgAddick said:

    rikofold said:

    RanTooFar said:

    HardyAddick said:

    Another new article in the main Telegraph sports section

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/12/i-have-suffered-extreme-abuse-says-charlton-executive-katrien-me/

    I'll ask yet again - what extreme and vile personal abuse?!
    Well for a start the 'slapper' and 'chlamydia' song; the c-word posted on the comments of the Dublin video. I'm also aware of some particularly nasty emails she's received, a small number crossing the line into criminal transgression.

    I'm in no way defending her, and she may have the skin (and hide) of a rhino - but let's not pretend she's not been abused.
    The visiting of her parents was out of order.

    The rest she is fair game for and deserves.

    F*** her.
    If she was smart she would have spoken out about the visitation of fans to her parents straight after it occurred. Even if the statement she produced was as an emotional wreck, she would have gained some amount of sympathy.

    She probably only found out about that simple exchange of a leaflet ordeal via Charlton life.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    edited May 2016
    It's all too late as far she, the rant and Murray are concerned. Too much has gone now for them to retrieve the mess over the last 28 months and no one trusts what they say or anything they do anymore.


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  • Dippenhall
    Dippenhall Posts: 3,919
    Great post from @Grapevine49.

    The sheer arrogance of the woman.

    Everyone else's fault but hers.

    Grudging admission of mistakes without understanding the need to be accompanied by explanations and apologies.

    Not associating herself with the mistakes, and implying they should be accepted as normal and should not invoke passionate reaction from fans.

    Bewildered why cash injected to save owners original investment should not be accepted as a bribe in return for dumb loyalty and respect to her and the owner.

    Refusal to accept the reality of the situation leaves her no option but to portray fans as first a minority, then irrational, then uneducated and foul mouthed finally criminals and racists.

    Not exactly on the path to a truth and reconciliation solution.

    Like a poor gambler getting ever more desperate, she stumbles from one bad throw of the dice to another as she tries to reach what is always moving further away - the profile of an intelligent woman, in control running a successful football club for a wealthy owner to be revered as the new Karen Brady.

    She has no interest in the club or the fans, only her own self advancement and she is failing miserably.

    I've increased my standing order to the protest fund and can only hope we advance her misery even further.

  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    Fanny Fanackapan said:

    HardyAddick said:

    Jim White Telegraph article after today's conference

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/12/charlton-athletic-chief-executives-chance-to-engage-with-fans-do/

    Well said, Jimbo

    But think by now you should know the difference between "quite" and "quiet".

    Mind you, our CEO clearly doesn't know the meaning of the latter.

    That's an Italian coffee innit? :-)
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    edited May 2016
    This sounds like the death throes of a wounded animal to me. It's noticeable that she has chosen to speak once the final game of the season is over.

    Hopefully she'll retreat into a lair somewhere and slowly disappear, she has problems with reality.

    It could transpire that Roland is leading her up to the gallows.


  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,338
    edited May 2016
    Dave2l said:

    HardyAddick said:

    Another new article in the main Telegraph sports section

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2016/05/12/i-have-suffered-extreme-abuse-says-charlton-executive-katrien-me/

    Ok for one thing (now I'm a bit less annoyed) she is not hinting that the fans are raciest. She is mostly just clumsy with words whilst rattled and visibly outspokenly upset (weirdo). Attention seeker - drama. Even though she has already lost before she has even said a word.

    What I'd like to know is who the hell was she supporting 15 years ago? Belgian Scumbags FC?

    She is obviously rattled. I am interested in psychology. Mostly within animals but humans also, of course it's interesting. Aside from the fact that she's ruining my club, she is somewhat of an interest point because ...

    A professional could learn from her personal strange-ness and she is in a high profile position.

    I believe she is a sociopath but a non threatening one. That's not a sly dig. She is not a dangerous person so I really don't want to be overly harsh when suggesting something serious but:

    1.Pathological liar

    2. Not being able to answer questions. Or simply taking the piss, when asked questions. Diving all around them. In-direct.

    3. Cannot admit anything is wrong or fully grasp it. She has mentioned things that have gone wrong but just says it happens as in, it's okish. Don't blame me for common occurrences. WRONG

    4. Having too much self worth. Where she brings up the community stuff, the academy, the affordable football. She is crushed that side is not frequently praised, even though it's almost non relevant and not that impressive. Those things were already at the club. The club invested in charlton BECAUSE OF THOSE THINGS, even as they say.

    ^She must be told she is great. A sociopath survives on it. She is hurt.

    5.She has a little following of worshipers. Ie Mandy. Not that impressive but she is still up her butthole. There will be others too.

    6. Constantly in denial anything is wrong. She will get angry if the facts and figures are shown factually that the club has turned sour. Probably wouldn't bear look at it and would get passive aggressive.

    7. The sex vid is a bold move that someone with a funny mental disorder may overly approve of. It was not appropriate.

    8. She is apparently initially charming and stands out. You know, how some people get jobs.

    Those are sociopathic traits and probably more where that came from. However, it doesn't always complete the individual.

    She might just about escape being fully branded as a sociopath.







    Another way to see it is is she is just playing a game. Given a job because women are good with budgets and allegedly because her dad knows Roland, her boss does not care what she does or what the consequences are as long as she is having fun.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    My wife and I have been taking my son to Charlton since he was six. He is been exposed to swearing since that time - I have never had a problem with that - I told him that he will hear it, but it doesn't mean he should repeat it. It has always been my position to reason with him, not pretend people don't use those words. Go to any school and every child will know the swear words so what's the harm in hearing them. My son is now 14 and he never swears. He has told me in the past that it annoys him when some of his friends swear excessively. He is well adjusted and strong both academically and in sports.

    I must admit that at an Ipswich match some years ago and our supporters were chanting 'Sheep Shaggers', he asked me what they were saying and I told him 'sheep shearers' because a lot of them live on farms! I suspect Katrien and Roland have been far more responsible for youngsters not attending than any swearing, which has always been a part of football.
  • ValleyMick
    ValleyMick Posts: 473
    edited May 2016
    As a story this will gone in a couple of days. It would be good to see a response from CARD though to the branding of Charlton anti-Roland fans as criminal mysogonists that need educating.

    What Meire's words have done of course is to deepen the divide between the owner and fans, and cause further damage Charlton as a club. This would be a brilliant case study in how to not run a business.

    We've been relegated. We've just been snubbed in public by the manager of Northampton bloody Town. We've no manager. It's a critical time for selling and recruiting players. The club is trying to sell season tickets.

    Meire then decides that now is a good time to defame the active fan base, rather than trying to build bridges. And says that apart from the managers she appointed and the players, Charton isn't all shit! Great work Katrien.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,235
    ValleyMick said:

    As a story this will gone in a couple of days. It would be good to see a response from CARD though to the branding of Charlton anti-Roland fans as criminal mysogonists that need educating.

    What Meire's words have done of course is to deepen the divide between the owner and fans, and cause further damage Charlton as a club. This would be a brilliant case study in how to not run a business.

    We've been relegated. We've just been snubbed in public by the manager of Northampton bloody Town. We've no manager. It's a critical time for selling and recruiting players. The club is trying to sell season tickets.

    Meira then decides that now is a good time to defame the active fan base, rather than trying to build bridges. And says that apart from the managers she appointed and the players, Charton isn't all shit! Great work Katrien.

    The Geraldine Ratner of English Football
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    edited May 2016
    ValleyMick said:

    As a story this will gone in a couple of days. It would be good to see a response from CARD though to the branding of Charlton anti-Roland fans as criminal mysogonists that need educating.

    What Meire's words have done of course is to deepen the divide between the owner and fans, and cause further damage Charlton as a club. This would be a brilliant case study in how to not run a business.

    We've been relegated. We've just been snubbed in public by the manager of Northampton bloody Town. We've no manager. It's a critical time for selling and recruiting players. The club is trying to sell season tickets.

    Meira then decides that now is a good time to defame the active fan base, rather than trying to build bridges. And says that apart from the managers she appointed and the players, Charton isn't all shit! Great work Katrien.

    ValleyMick said:

    As a story this will gone in a couple of days. It would be good to see a response from CARD though to the branding of Charlton anti-Roland fans as criminal mysogonists that need educating.

    What Meire's words have done of course is to deepen the divide between the owner and fans, and cause further damage Charlton as a club. This would be a brilliant case study in how to not run a business.

    We've been relegated. We've just been snubbed in public by the manager of Northampton bloody Town. We've no manager. It's a critical time for selling and recruiting players. The club is trying to sell season tickets.

    Meira then decides that now is a good time to defame the active fan base, rather than trying to build bridges. And says that apart from the managers she appointed and the players, Charton isn't all shit! Great work Katrien.

    And a few months ago she was trying to tell us they were all great appointments!!! I think the press need a CARD statement now countering her points and reflecting how she has insulted us.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,653
    We are screwed next season if Roland and KM are still running the gaff, they stumble from one disaster to another, without an ounce of apology or responsibility, grow up Katrien.
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,077
    Yesterday highlighted exactly why the Rat continues to employ her. Why sack her, when she deflects all the hate, vitriol and ridicule away from the Great Leader himself.

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