Moncur bid rejected
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Thats fair enough... If we offer £500k straight up for Moncur then Colchester will think that we can offer more so would have rejected that no doubt, they're simply going to try and squeeze out the best deal that'll be the best for their clubmr.se7 said:SLP reporting that we're going to counter their 'two fingers up' reply to our 150,000 bid with.......... 200,000. That'll show em
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Expecting Colchester to reject a bid of £150,000.01 and for Meire to then issue a statement telling us they tried to break the bank but couldn't because the nasty fans haven't renewed their season tickets.4
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Wouldn't disagree that someone is trying to do something right, but obviously something is wrong if their efforts are failing. That surely is the criticism.Swisdom said:
Alert alertlancashire lad said:so let me get this right
we criticise the club's management because they don't recruit Britsh players and coaches plus the season has ended and they are doing nothing about preparing for next season
so who
* tried to recruit Wilder a Britsh coach but failed as he would rather join the club
he has supported since a boy.
* trying to recruit Moncur, a British midfielder, who we tried to recruit last season
* organised what looks like a good pre season in Austria.
now I want to see KM and her team go but someone there is trying to do something right.
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Fwiw I agree
If you would be inclined to praise a man because he's trying to stop beating his wife i guess you will be happy that he's trying to do something right even if he might beat his wife any moment.
Some of us want to see something right being done rather than accepting someone "trying" to do something right and always failing.
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That's like saying Gudmundssen is a third division player. He's not, is he?harveys gardener said:He is now a L2 player though.
Moncur has already proved himself in League 1 and will find another club at that level.
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Not saying we should but if we offered them 500k we would currently be talking to Moncur about wages, they are holding out for more then 150k because they know they can get more from us or if not another League 1 club.ForeverAddickted said:
Thats fair enough... If we offer £500k straight up for Moncur then Colchester will think that we can offer more so would have rejected that no doubt, they're simply going to try and squeeze out the best deal that'll be the best for their clubmr.se7 said:SLP reporting that we're going to counter their 'two fingers up' reply to our 150,000 bid with.......... 200,000. That'll show em
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as far as I am aware he has already spoken to Barnsley although no fee has been agreed with Colchester. I assume he had their permission though. Would suspect he is waiting to see if they get promoted or not before deciding.0
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£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.8
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Bit like Ebay isnt it when you get someone sending a PM asking if you'd accept an offer on an item rather than going through the auction... Do you accept it or do you run the risk of rejecting and praying that the item doesnt go for less than the offered amount.GretnaGreenAddick said:
Not saying we should but if we offered them 500k we would currently be talking to Moncur about wages, they are holding out for more then 150k because they know they can get more from us or if not another League 1 club.ForeverAddickted said:
Thats fair enough... If we offer £500k straight up for Moncur then Colchester will think that we can offer more so would have rejected that no doubt, they're simply going to try and squeeze out the best deal that'll be the best for their clubmr.se7 said:SLP reporting that we're going to counter their 'two fingers up' reply to our 150,000 bid with.......... 200,000. That'll show em
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Just think how much we would have saved if we put in a low bid for Naby Sarr4
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I think too many fans think that Football Manager 20xx is no different to the real world these days.ShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Especially when it comes down to Transfers as there is just no patience3 -
I agree but not sure why they need to play it out in public via the SLPShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Do your business in private and you won't get laughed at if and when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
Play it all out in public to keep the media and fans happy (yeah) then expect to get pilloried when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
"We've learn't from our mistakes"6 -
Is it Colchester putting it out into the open though...? They're going to want clubs to get into a bidding war.Henry Irving said:
I agree but not sure why they need to play it out in public via the SLPShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Do your business in private and you won't get laughed at if and when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
Play it all out in public to keep the media and fans happy (yeah) then expect to get pilloried when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
"We've learn't from our mistakes"
Charlton wont
P.S. Keeping it quiet wont keep the fans quiet as too many will presume that nothing is being done0 -
SLP saying Charlton will go in with another bid today.ForeverAddickted said:
Is it Colchester putting it out into the open though...? They're going to want clubs to get into a bidding war.Henry Irving said:
I agree but not sure why they need to play it out in public via the SLPShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Do your business in private and you won't get laughed at if and when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
Play it all out in public to keep the media and fans happy (yeah) then expect to get pilloried when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
"We've learn't from our mistakes"
Charlton wont
Now, Colchester can't know that and they are not likely to use the SLP to leak stuff1 -
The lack of patience is due to how desperate a club we are currently, we seem to want a decent League 1 player, so lets get the deal done before one of our rivals who are not in turmoil swoops in a steals him from under our noses.ForeverAddickted said:
I think too many fans think that Football Manager 20xx is no different to the real world these days.ShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Especially when it comes down to Transfers as there is just no patience0 -
Yeah cos fans jumping up and down is going to make Moncur sign quicker!!GretnaGreenAddick said:
The lack of patience is due to how desperate a club we are currently, we seem to want a decent League 1 player, so lets get the deal done before one of our rivals who are not in turmoil swoops in a steals him from under our noses.ForeverAddickted said:
I think too many fans think that Football Manager 20xx is no different to the real world these days.ShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Especially when it comes down to Transfers as there is just no patience0 -
A serious bid might though.........ForeverAddickted said:
Yeah cos fans jumping up and down is going to make Moncur sign quicker!!GretnaGreenAddick said:
The lack of patience is due to how desperate a club we are currently, we seem to want a decent League 1 player, so lets get the deal done before one of our rivals who are not in turmoil swoops in a steals him from under our noses.ForeverAddickted said:
I think too many fans think that Football Manager 20xx is no different to the real world these days.ShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Especially when it comes down to Transfers as there is just no patience0 -
Not really... thats only going to mean we can talk to George...GretnaGreenAddick said:
A serious bid might though.........ForeverAddickted said:
Yeah cos fans jumping up and down is going to make Moncur sign quicker!!GretnaGreenAddick said:
The lack of patience is due to how desperate a club we are currently, we seem to want a decent League 1 player, so lets get the deal done before one of our rivals who are not in turmoil swoops in a steals him from under our noses.ForeverAddickted said:
I think too many fans think that Football Manager 20xx is no different to the real world these days.ShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Especially when it comes down to Transfers as there is just no patience
He then may want to review all options before signing for someone0 -
Okay you win, well done Roland and Katrien, keep up the good work, what will get us out of League 1 is releasing names to the press telling of us almost signing decent british players and managers.0
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Come now... Stop throwing your toys out your pram... We're older than that!!GretnaGreenAddick said:Okay you win, well done Roland and Katrien, keep up the good work, what will get us out of League 1 is releasing names to the press telling of us almost signing decent british players and managers.
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Fuck sake. Shows how far we have fallen when we are all getting our knickers in a twist over a player from relegated league one Colchester......4
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What a ridiculous post.Dippenhall said:
Wouldn't disagree that someone is trying to do something right, but obviously something is wrong if their efforts are failing. That surely is the criticism.Swisdom said:
Alert alertlancashire lad said:so let me get this right
we criticise the club's management because they don't recruit Britsh players and coaches plus the season has ended and they are doing nothing about preparing for next season
so who
* tried to recruit Wilder a Britsh coach but failed as he would rather join the club
he has supported since a boy.
* trying to recruit Moncur, a British midfielder, who we tried to recruit last season
* organised what looks like a good pre season in Austria.
now I want to see KM and her team go but someone there is trying to do something right.
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Fwiw I agree
If you would be inclined to praise a man because he's trying to stop beating his wife i guess you will be happy that he's trying to do something right even if he might beat his wife any moment.
Some of us want to see something right being done rather than accepting someone "trying" to do something right and always failing.1 -
Do you watch football? Making negatives out of nothing. Any other owner and people would be happy with this. Hate the regime but my good take some good news when it comes.DamoNorthStand said:Fuck sake. Shows how far we have fallen when we are all getting our knickers in a twist over a player from relegated league one Colchester......
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I am honestly not, I am just disappointed to see how any fans fall for it once again.ForeverAddickted said:
Come now... Stop throwing your toys out your pram... We're older than that!!GretnaGreenAddick said:Okay you win, well done Roland and Katrien, keep up the good work, what will get us out of League 1 is releasing names to the press telling of us almost signing decent british players and managers.
I hate this, I want our club to finally turn a corner but an actual one, not just words to the press that make it seem like we are.
If they get Moncur signed up and if they get a respected lower league manager signed up then I will say well done but they have done neither yet and I am fully expecting Moncur to be playing for another League 1 club next season, with the story coming out of our club being that he was greedy etc, so we had to play a 17 year old from our academy or recruit a young star of the future from the dutch 2nd tier.1 -
Absolutely but I wonder if there is an attitude by the club that a little to eager to please.Henry Irving said:
I agree but not sure why they need to play it out in public via the SLPShootersHillGuru said:£150k was an opening gambit. Every club does similar. Charlton will have an upper figure and Colchester will have a lowest. I'm not sure what people are expecting.
Do your business in private and you won't get laughed at if and when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
Play it all out in public to keep the media and fans happy (yeah) then expect to get pilloried when it goes wrong. See Wilder.
"We've learn't from our mistakes"
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When you say 'Any Manager' is Pep Guardiola, as we speak, lining up a bid of £50m?Covered End said:Any manager would be happy to have Moncur in his squad and it's a nonsense to suggest otherwise.
Apologies, I assumed Lifers would understand that I was talking about a League 1 manager & not Champions League managers.1 -
Pah. Where have you been?cafc_harry said:
Do you watch football? Making negatives out of nothing. Any other owner and people would be happy with this. Hate the regime but my good take some good news when it comes.DamoNorthStand said:Fuck sake. Shows how far we have fallen when we are all getting our knickers in a twist over a player from relegated league one Colchester......
Have you not seen enough of this rotten cretinous regime to see how they operate.
They're shouting it from the rooftops to make it look like they're trying to do something when really their objectives are the complete opposite.
I'll believe it when I see it.
They are very good at talking the talk. Problem is,they never get off their arses to walk the walk.5 -
In a proper football club, (say Charlton 2011, just plucking an example out the air, you understand) you give the manager a budget and he and his staff work within those parameters to build the squad he wants, whoever finds the actual players for his consideration. The manager makes the choices within the budget. The problem with buying players without a manager is not so much whether an individual is a good signing, value for money, etc, per se, but that those choices are then being made by someone who is not ultimately accountable for the success of the team and cannot say whether it is the right choice within available resources. Every deal you make in this situation closes down other options.
If the person responsible in the meantime should happen to have a reputation as a soft touch for agents, the situation could be even more problematic.11 -
Standby for a Belgian veteran on a short-term deal again. I'll believe it when I see it.0
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The point is, Moncur is a very decent League 1 player and therefore League 1 managers should be happy to have him as part of the squad, as a preference to let's say Pigott as an example.LargeAddick said:
why is it? Whomever we appoint may identify a player in League 1 or 2 who he'd prefer and whom he thinks is better. Moncur would then be a bit part player, and unhappy. If we appoint a Manager who does want Moncur then great go for it but I can't see the point in signing someone who may immediately be surplus to the Manager's requirements. Plus it drives a coach and horses through the 'the Manager will have total control over transfers' mantra we keep hearing. Get a Manager, let him get the players HE wants.Covered End said:Any manager would be happy to have Moncur in his squad and it's a nonsense to suggest otherwise.
Whether Moncur was a regular first teamer or a squad member will depend on how he performs.
I agree that it is preferable for the manager to select his own players, but we don't have a manager.
I'd rather we sign some proven League 1 players, if we can, rather than wait until we appoint a new manager and they've all been snapped up & we are left with the equivalent options of Roger Johnson.1
